18th.
No pics!!!
There are links to pics in some of the other posts. Have to say it Rino looks terrible a complete mess!
The Rhino was ready to rock the house, what happened?!!?
pics?????????????
Hi all,
Rhino worked hard and got on stage and competed. That is the goal of some Get Biggers.
Kudos to him for doing that.
He was very professional after the prejudging when I spoke with him and got his autograph.
I loved the motorcycles. His friends were pretty cool when I spoke with them after the show.
I tried to upload pics of him. The server is very slow today.
Sandra
Thanks for the link... but I can't find his photos among the 1000's. I'm a loser! Do you have the pages #'s.I might be wrong but I think those pics are just from the pro qualifier, so I don't think there would be any of Rhino on stage.
Thanks!
In all the 37 years on stage competing, Rhino has not one competition photo to speak of..
Sounds like he may have a plan with that many pics.4300 are you joking not even milos is that sad.He might have some very happy buyers for oiled up semi naked men.IMO.I actually did some research on this guy. He's been around maybe 7 yrs. Usually only shoots women. His site is free and kid safe. Props to him for that. I don't think he's into gay shit since he usually only shoots women and if all the images are going on his free site, what's to sell? Just a guess, but I think you're off base on this dude.
I'm sorry but there are rolls of fat on the guy. Nice guy yes he is but this an embarrassing showing of epic proportions.
The guy had back fat.Lower body was striated as hell though.
I'm sorry but there are rolls of fat on the guy. Nice guy yes he is but this an embarrassing showing of epic proportions.
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to melol! 5....4...3...2...1
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to me
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to me
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to me
Please explain how he possibly could overdiet when he still was fat?
YIP
Zack
I want to give my props to Jack Rhino London for busting his ass and doing the best he could in the NOC.No Jack isnt the most symertrical guy, nor is he the youngest, but he gave it his all.I have competed for 12 years and I retired last year, and the only things that matter is your tried your best and you looked the best you coud with the genetics god gave you.Not everybody can have round muscle bellies likes dexter, or a small waiste like shawn, or turn pro at 22 like Lee priest.In bodybuilding you should never compare or compete with any one but yourself, as long as you look better, bigger and sharper ever year, your a winner in my book.The reason why I say this is because you can do anything about the genetics god gave you or the political aspects of bodybuilding , so all you can do be the best bodybuilder you can be.Anyways good job Jack, you looked good, no your not Lee Priest but you did your best, and in my book your a winner.....God Bless ....John
I want to give my props to Jack Rhino London for busting his ass and doing the best he could in the NOC.No Jack isnt the most symertrical guy, nor is he the youngest, but he gave it his all.I have competed for 12 years and I retired last year, and the only things that matter is your tried your best and you looked the best you coud with the genetics god gave you.Not everybody can have round muscle bellies likes dexter, or a small waiste like shawn, or turn pro at 22 like Lee priest.In bodybuilding you should never compare or compete with any one but yourself, as long as you look better, bigger and sharper ever year, your a winner in my book.The reason why I say this is because you can do anything about the genetics god gave you or the political aspects of bodybuilding , so all you can do be the best bodybuilder you can be.Anyways good job Jack, you looked good, no your not Lee Priest but you did your best, and in my book your a winner.....God Bless ....John
I want to give my props to Jack Rhino London for busting his ass and doing the best he could in the NOC.No Jack isnt the most symertrical guy, nor is he the youngest, but he gave it his all.I have competed for 12 years and I retired last year, and the only things that matter is your tried your best and you looked the best you coud with the genetics god gave you.Not everybody can have round muscle bellies likes dexter, or a small waiste like shawn, or turn pro at 22 like Lee priest.In bodybuilding you should never compare or compete with any one but yourself, as long as you look better, bigger and sharper ever year, your a winner in my book.The reason why I say this is because you can do anything about the genetics god gave you or the political aspects of bodybuilding , so all you can do be the best bodybuilder you can be.Anyways good job Jack, you looked good, no your not Lee Priest but you did your best, and in my book your a winner.....God Bless ....John
So do the fans pay the Pros for competing No their money ends up in some fat arse Promoters pocket give me a break the Fans.When was the last time you gave money to a Pro for competing?????.
I was there cheering for Rhino and all of the competitors.
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This was a shot in the dark for all who put this show togther. Not to mention what it takes to get you body and mind ready for a show. No matter what some of the competitors looked like, how many of you would have prepped and stepped on that stage?
Sandra
I was there cheering for Rhino and all of the competitors.
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This was a shot in the dark for all who put this show togther. Not to mention what it takes to get you body and mind ready for a show. No matter what some of the competitors looked like, how many of you would have prepped and stepped on that stage?
Sandra
well i'll tell ya what...If the IFBB wanted to give me a pro card for nothing, I wouldn't take it...Why, because i know in my heart that i'm not anywhere near the pro level....YOu make it sound like they were competing in a state show...And should be be praised for just getting up there...That is BS...You think if Derik Jeter goes 0-40, he won't get booed at every game until he competes the way he should again...Of course he would...If a guy comes up from triple A to pitch because a guy went down hurt and he gets totally shelled...Guess what? He will be back down to triple....
Yet, you've bashed my pictures when I did my first NPC bodybuilding show.
Nice words except you're only saying it because Jack is your friend, not because you really mean it and you don't want him to get the same treatment that I've gotten around here for my pictures.
Unfortunately, you know what's going to happen now.
Stay strong, Rhino.
Yet, you've bashed my pictures when I did my first NPC bodybuilding show.
Nice words except you're only saying it because Jack is your friend, not because you really mean it and you don't want him to get the same treatment that I've gotten around here for my pictures.
Unfortunately, you know what's going to happen now.
Stay strong, Rhino.
What a bunch of jerks! Jack is a powerlifter that is doing some crossover into bodybuilidng. He looks good and will get alot better- give him some time.
Yet, you've bashed my pictures when I did my first NPC bodybuilding show.
Nice words except you're only saying it because Jack is your friend, not because you really mean it and you don't want him to get the same treatment that I've gotten around here for my pictures.
Unfortunately, you know what's going to happen now.
Stay strong, Rhino.
This should be a warning to all you bulkers. London is not fat in these photos, its loose skin. He gained to much fat, and lost it to quickly.
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to meLMAO, one gem after another! ;D
Someone give Rhino a map to the local SQUAT RACK.
Gotta jump in for my boy here............
Jack was extremely overweight (aka: fat) earlier in his life,that is where the loose skin comes from
(i believe he has had some sugery done on the area) he needs more (a tuck or whatever the f**k it's called)
Someone give Rhino a map to the local SQUAT RACK.
Didn't know about his obesity issues. Or his surgery. Still, doesn't explains why he gets up on stage looking like that. Could you honestly say that he looked better than yourself?
I'm sure he squats. But he's probably suffering from the Kamali Disease - Partial Squatting with heavy ass weights thinking he's a bad ass. Excusing his poor form on knee problems or some shit like that.
YIP
Zack
I apreciate all the comments made. I was happy to be there. Jimmy Mentis had me cycling my carbs and I was going flat onstage . As I ate, at the night show, I looked better. Anyway, I feel that I copmpletely missed the mark for many reasons. For now, I am taking a break, but still was no where near my best.
Thanks....Jack
I apreciate all the comments made. I was happy to be there. Jimmy Mentis had me cycling my carbs and I was going flat onstage . As I ate, at the night show, I looked better. Anyway, I feel that I copmpletely missed the mark for many reasons. For now, I am taking a break, but still was no where near my best.
Thanks....Jack
Care to give us more details regarding your last days carb loading,this is the biggest mystery in contest prep for me and I would appericiate some insight.
I see no reason for you to be bothred with these retards,even the great hall of fame pro's missed their mark a few times and they got dozens of shows under his belt.
And we all know this isnt your best,we seen your X weeks out pics.You will own them next time!
Team Rhino coming at you! ;D
Jack, post some pics from the night show if you have any.
In all fairness, many of those pics are transition shots or from an odd angle.
Jack, do you think you got a little too heavy in the offseason, did that play any role? I've found (for myself) that getting bigger in the offseason is a must and carrying some fat is helpful to build but if your too far from contest weight it makes the pre-contest dieting harder, more drastic and you can loose some muscle with dieting hard to try to loose the offseason fat.
I had a friend who competed recently who flattened out with too many diuretics trying to loose the last bit of water/fat around his waist. After he ate and drank quite a bit of water, he looked significantly better for the night show....it happens.
All is correct. I went and ate, after prejudjing, and drank water, I came back looking much better. I am going to wait till next year, and work with Jimmy, in the offseason, to come in better at NOC and then in Barbados....
Wait to see the pics from the night show, I am a different person. But, too late. Still though even at my best I would have been 12-13th, not even top ten, those guys were that good.
Thanks, I apreciate it. I never carb loaded before and I think that I needed a couple more days. I think if you see some pics from the night show, you will see a different guy. I do fell my placing should have been 12-13th. Anyway, Jimmy mentis and I spoke on this and he feels I was about 60%. I missed the maek as I stood on stage, I was going flat, and getting watery. After I ate, I looked much better. Still all-in all, I think, factoring in my missed loading, I did okay.
I belonged there.....
I apreciate all the comments made. I was happy to be there. Jimmy Mentis had me cycling my carbs and I was going flat onstage . As I ate, at the night show, I looked better. Anyway, I feel that I copmpletely missed the mark for many reasons. For now, I am taking a break, but still was no where near my best.
Thanks....Jack
All is correct. I went and ate, after prejudjing, and drank water, I came back looking much better. I am going to wait till next year, and work with Jimmy, in the offseason, to come in better at NOC and then in Barbados....Pics are from the night show, chunk. You are no different, please stop embarrassing yourself. Those guys were not that good, you're just that bad.
Wait to see the pics from the night show, I am a different person. But, too late. Still though even at my best I would have been 12-13th, not even top ten, those guys were that good.
All is correct. I went and ate, after prejudjing, and drank water, I came back looking much better. I am going to wait till next year, and work with Jimmy, in the offseason, to come in better at NOC and then in Barbados....
Wait to see the pics from the night show, I am a different person. But, too late. Still though even at my best I would have been 12-13th, not even top ten, those guys were that good.
Gotta jump in for my boy here............
Jack was extremely overweight (aka: fat) earlier in his life,that is where the loose skin comes from
(i believe he has had some sugery done on the area) he needs more (a tuck or whatever the f**k it's called)
he fixes that,comes in bigger/fuller harder/dryer
he will do just fine.................... .don't write him off just yet
Jack will be back
count on it...................... ...............Mike
He obviously overdieted for this show, very badly. Didn't carb up enough as well. Very similiar to what happenned to me
Jack,
I sent you a PM last week to wish you well....and I find this:
Re: PDI Admendment Chick ??
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2006, 01:02:28 PM » Quote
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Thats funny, I thought you were not competing because you hurt your arm. Or was it because of me? Or what was it again?
It's pretty funny, i got off the phone with soemone yesterday, and they noticed that nobody talks about vinny anymore. Oh, and that somebody, was a somebody....
Chick really talked alot of sense into you, you are back to obscurity.
JACK I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS COOL, I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS WITH ME.
HEY....CONGRATS ON 18TH PLACE................... ........................ .......
HEY....CONGRATS ON 18TH PLACE................... ........................ .......
After enduring all of "The Rhino" nonsense for the better part of the year, he shows up looking like that?
Then he has the nerve to implicate Mentis?
Then at one week and two weeks out he states that he is his best ever, only to now back pedal and state that he was nowhere near his best?
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
Yes Hopefully the "Walrus" and the PDI in general will just fade away. They have been exposed as third rate material. I feel bad for Lee Priest having to take that joke of a contest seriously. I wonder how he REALLY FEELS about hitching his wagon to the wrong horse.
Jack;
There is no possible way I could be more proud of you then I am right now.
All along you said it wasn't about the winning but the fact you were going to do it for the love of it.
I want you to remember this smile in this picture and the reason for it. This is a true feeling and the reason why you ever picked up a weight in the first place. When you step on stage again like you said you will do, do it again for the right reasons, the ones you hold true to. I believed in you before and nothing has changed.
Racquel
:-* :-*
Jack,How can you respect a "pro" that acts this immature. Can you imagine someone like Peyton Manning getting into an internet feud w/ one of his competitors.
I sent you a PM last week to wish you well....and I find this:
Re: PDI Admendment Chick ??
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2006, 01:02:28 PM » Quote
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Thats funny, I thought you were not competing because you hurt your arm. Or was it because of me? Or what was it again?
It's pretty funny, i got off the phone with soemone yesterday, and they noticed that nobody talks about vinny anymore. Oh, and that somebody, was a somebody....
Chick really talked alot of sense into you, you are back to obscurity.
JACK I THOUGHT EVERYTHING WAS COOL, I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS WITH ME.
HEY....CONGRATS ON 18TH PLACE................... ........................ .......
How can you respect a "pro" that acts this immature. Can you imagine someone like Peyton Manning getting into an internet feud w/ one of his competitors.
How can you respect a "pro" that acts this immature. Can you imagine someone like Peyton Manning getting into an internet feud w/ one of his competitors.
Name one single pro on here who hasn't gotten into an internet feud?
Name one single pro on here who hasn't gotten into an internet feud?Phil Heath, Richard Jones, Kevin Levrone, Melvin Anthony, Dexter Jackson, Rusty Jeffers, Jay Cutler to name a few. Some of these guys may not post alot, probably because they have better things to do, but they post from time to time and browse the boards. Also, people like Shawn Ray and Lee Priest have the right to talk a little shit to people bc their physiques back it all up.
Rhino is a pro, and is up there competing aginst pros.
Dont take it so hard/bad...its just a placing.
You are where you are today, bc you KNOW what to do. Just do it. Its inspiration for the next battle.
From what i experienced, you get better and better with every show...
Rock n Roll Rhino...!
After enduring all of "The Rhino" nonsense for the better part of the year, he shows up looking like that?
Then he has the nerve to implicate Mentis?
Then at one week and two weeks out he states that he is his best ever, only to now back pedal and state that he was nowhere near his best?
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
HAhahahahh thats the funniest thing i heard in a while ..no offense Rhino
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
After enduring all of "The Rhino" nonsense for the better part of the year, he shows up looking like that?On top of that, the janitor said he had'nt worked out in years!
Then he has the nerve to implicate Mentis?
Then at one week and two weeks out he states that he is his best ever, only to now back pedal and state that he was nowhere near his best?
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
I like how "walrus" went from challenging Bob Chick to get onstage, intimating that Galanti pulled out in fear of him and saying he's in the best shape of his life, to "at least I didn't finish last."
On top of that, the janitor said he had'nt worked out in years!I thought Shawn Ray wasnt going to go to the PDI ??
Vinny, I'm detecting a touch bit of sarcasm in your comment. ;D
Jack deserves what he got. Mentis was kind enough to offer his last minute help to someone that was struggling and now he blames him for it.He probably didn't even follow what he suggested anyway. It's hard to believe that he would bring something like that to the stage. Mentis has helped quite a few athletes and have been very successful but keeps it very low key.
Yes Hopefully the "Walrus" and the PDI in general will just fade away. They have been exposed as third rate material. I feel bad for Lee Priest having to take that joke of a contest seriously. I wonder how he REALLY FEELS about hitching his wagon to the wrong horse.
not at all, just congrats on 18TH PLACE
For the record, I was not blaming Jimmy. Not at all, I over carbed/or went flat, not quite sure what happened yet???
After enduring all of "The Rhino" nonsense for the better part of the year, he shows up looking like that?
Then he has the nerve to implicate Mentis?
Then at one week and two weeks out he states that he is his best ever, only to now back pedal and state that he was nowhere near his best?
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
BAD Vinny!
You've been a gentlemen about this entire thing from the beginning and now you pull a "Shawn Ray".
Yes many things have been said to you but I thought you were above all that. :-\
You need to go walk your dog for a while and enjoy the sun.
:-*
Jack,Over dieting when you still have fat to lose? And I'm sure his body didn't "shut down"... I'm sure he was on steroids, thyroid, ephedrine etc... keeping the metabolism high. There is no starvation mode when you are "assisted".
Over carbbed???? This is a pure case of over dieting. Body shut down and went into into "starvation" mode.
Over dieting when you still have fat to lose? And I'm sure his body didn't "shut down"... I'm sure he was on steroids, thyroid, ephedrine etc... keeping the metabolism high. There is no starvation mode when you are "assisted".
BAD Vinny!
You've been a gentlemen about this entire thing from the beginning and now you pull a "Shawn Ray".
Yes many things have been said to you but I thought you were above all that. :-\
You need to go walk your dog for a while and enjoy the sun.
:-*
YES
OK Enough of me teasing Jack.....I was just having a little fun.
its total bullshit that your body cant shut down while "on"...but I dont think thats the case at all.
after not competing for a few years, when i warmed up at the golds classic last year before the npc nationals....i was on zero carbs for 4 days untill i started carbing up on thursday...
on wednesday night, i was ready....on saturday i looked like ASS...and was FLAT from CARBS, and could not get a pump at all.
i did the east coast a week later, and for 6 days i went zero carbs but added fats...at the east coast i was tight, hard, and ripped.
i think the same thing happed to jack
Hey Jack , don't worry what these guys say, alot of these guys have never competed, just come back bigger and better next year. You are a great guy, and have respect for every one and deserve the same. You might not have been a 100% and i have been there more then once, just makes to come back better. Cant wait to see you up there nexted year. 8)
I didn't see any water retention. Lower body was tight and shredded. Back had fat to lose though.
I don't see any reason at all for Jack London to pursue a Pro Bodybuilding career. If he would be winning, or having a real shot at winning, perhaps it could be something to ponder.Is it stats found of the 900+ squat anywere or is it just Internet talk
Then, perhaps, the health risks and all other aspects could've been justified.
Now? I don't think so.
What now then? From what I understand, London has crazy powerlifting talent. He should hook up with a guy like Dave Tate to set him up to make a conversion, it would take him a good 6-7 months to get in the groove and do his first meet, and another 6 months to start produce results IMO.
But a 900+ squat as a junior... that's crazy.YIP
Zack
It's really crazy, to be honest, I am not sure what the hell happened. My back was tight as hell that morninig, then it started filling up, but I looked great the night before and that am??????
can't really figure it out. My body chnges from one hour to the next.
so you looked full on friday.
did you continue to carb up friday night up till pre judging?
did you use a diuretic?
Is it stats found of the 900+ squat anywere or is it just Internet talk
For the record.....i'm just busting JACKS BALLS.
but with carbing up......think as we get older, the carb load just does not work well.
i have been in the same boat as jack in the past, so i actualy believe that he looked better the night before.
i dont think he was fat, i think he was holding so much water, that it just looked like it was fat.
Rhino,
In all seriousness, do you have any regrets about your bravado and physique claims here on getbig?
That's because you guys do this zero carb depletion nonsense. If you do this for several days there is no way you can expect to fill back out in a couple of days. The cell shrinks, thus causing a smaller amount of carbs than you could normally consume to make you spill (and not fill out).
So did the PDI drug test like they said they would,if so how was it you admit to taking diretics.
That's because you guys do this zero carb depletion nonsense. If you do this for several days there is no way you can expect to fill back out in a couple of days. The cell shrinks, thus causing a smaller amount of carbs than you could normally consume to make you spill (and not fill out).
So you think that had you been forced to qualify for the NOC that you would have? You placed 18th, which means that you would not have earned a Pro Card in the qualifier. Correct me if I am wrong.
excellent advice to jack, i have been telling people this for quite sometime. My bet results with others has been getting them ready ealry and coasting into the show still eating.
No need to get uppety Jack, I was just asking the 60 Minutes questions that deserve answers. Have a container freight full of Krispy Kremes and relax.
I never made any barvado claims. I said I derserved to be there, and I would do my best, I never made any claims.
You better do some homework.By the way, since we are on the topic, what have you done in bodybuilding?
I smell the coffee, trust me...You could'nt hold my gym bag.
I don't think I am over my head. My physique is much better. As usuall, you compare my offseason pics(300lbs). To someon, who is in condition(sort of). But please, that physique is not so great, many weaknesses, conditioning tobe the first.
You are in over your head.
I might be clueless, but AI am the only one in this group being photographed by magazines on a regular basis.
Thats funny, I thought you were not competing because you hurt your arm. Or was it because of me? Or what was it again?
It's pretty funny, i got off the phone with soemone yesterday, and they noticed that nobody talks about vinny anymore. Oh, and that somebody, was a somebody....
Chick really talked alot of sense into you, you are back to obscurity.
Just asked the question and I thought you might answer it Drugs are banned in PDI a simple Yes or No will do,as for getting off your back who are you kidding you have enough fat there to keep you warm.IMO.
Rhino,
I stated on here before that you seem like an cool dude, but either you need corrective lenses or anti-pschotic drugs, because you are not a pro-caliber bodybuilder.
That's because you guys do this zero carb depletion nonsense. If you do this for several days there is no way you can expect to fill back out in a couple of days. The cell shrinks, thus causing a smaller amount of carbs than you could normally consume to make you spill (and not fill out).
You never made any bravado claims? What about when you compared yourself to Darrem Toma (BTW, he won a pro card the other day, IFBB card)
or when you compared yourself to Galanti, how is that not bravado claims:
Reality check mate.
YIP
Zack
Nor are YOU I would not be telling anyone you are Pro.What did you win to get that Pro card.Oh and I guess you will continue to use banned drugs.Wayne might test you.
the zero carb depletion phase before the carb up has always worked well for me and a few people i have worked with...going 4-5 days zero carb put your muscles into a state of hunger so during the carb up you can store more glycogen then under normal circumstances.If we are talking science the scientific data shows you can fill back 100% and even overcompensate in 24 hours after depleting. You don't even need insulin for that.
i think a bigger mistake is peoples timing of the carb up and the type of carbs used...a fast acting liquid high gi source like waxy maize or dextrose/maltodextrin works best at the start of the carb up then switching to slower carbs...you can fill out nicely in 2 days like this...actually even 1 day if your also using insulin...i see people trying to carb up on potatos and lower gi carbs only and it always seems they look better a day or 2 after the show.
If we are talking science the scientific data shows you can fill back 100% and even overcompensate in 24 hours after depleting. You don't even need insulin for that.
But this is bodybuilding and how you look is what counts. Some look better depleted. Some look better carbed up. And etc etc.
It's just internet talk, but London claims he did it at Temple. A known powerlifting Mecca, home of Dr Squat and many others.No doubt if those numbers are correct no doubt. But i wouldn't want to be in my fourtees and start a powerlifting career now, with that I mean training for a squat 400+ kilo, bench 250 +kilo, deadlift 400 kilo, no way, I have seen a guy who have done these figures and he´s not that healthy today.
So I doubt he's bullshitting.
And I'm sure the stats could be found somewhere. Get in touch with Disa Hatfield, or Michael Soong. They probably know more on this.
My point is anyhow, if those numbers are correct, that London could be a top guy in WPO within 2-4 years of serious training.
Which he never can be in any kind of bodybuilding federation.
YIP
Zack
Rhino,
Considering how your life as you know it bottoming out, have you considered a shotgun blast to the head? Buckshot works wonders.
No doubt if those numbers are correct no doubt. But i wouldn't want to be in my fourtees and start a powerlifting career now, with that I mean training for a squat 400+ kilo, bench 250 +kilo, deadlift 400 kilo, no way, I have seen a guy who have done these figures and he´s not that healthy today.
Wow, you think my life is bottoming out???(LOL).. You better do some reasearch on me fuckhead.....
You obviously don't know who you are talking to.
This is a hobby to me...my life?? trust me when I tell you, my life is far from over.
Wow, you just made me feel a whole lot better, realizing how clueless you really are.
Showstuffa STFU shut up is such a harsh group of words.Now grow up and stop with the name calling you Pathetic Turd.If Jack needs anything on his back it would be less Fat.IMO.Now STFU.
MELTDOWN
Don't flatter yourself, your opinion affects me as much as, well........not at all.
Keep in mind, too, that Jack is able to lift that heavy largely b/c of anabolic use. He should cut the drugs and cut his losses and get into knitting or something. Jack, you're getting to old to cycle as heavily as you are. You're only cutting years off your life...and for what? Chasing some stupid, impossible dream?
If my opinion doesn't matter, then why did you take the time to respond to my "meltdown" post?!? Lol!!!!
Wow, you think my life is bottoming out???(LOL).. You better do some reasearch on me fuckhead.....
You obviously don't know who you are talking to.
This is a hobby to me...my life?? trust me when I tell you, my life is far from over.
Wow, you just made me feel a whole lot better, realizing how clueless you really are.
Trust me, you have no idea how incidental you are.
Look it up stupid.
Jack,
f**k whatever these fuckstick professional ass hats have to say about you. You did your best and guess what...it was your first pro show. This ain't the last like some of these fatherless people on here think. Keep up the grind and get them next time.
See you at the O.
Jack,
f**k whatever these fuckstick professional ass hats have to say about you. You did your best and guess what...it was your first pro show. This ain't the last like some of these fatherless people on here think. Keep up the grind and get them next time.
See you at the O.
WOW...Is this my ex-wife posting under an anonymous name?
Who are you? ???
You know, maybe if you weren't such a delusional tool and didn't abuse her, your wife might still be with you. you're pathetic, dude.
ahahahahaha
No, no, the question is "who are you?" Tell people and post pics of YOU.
You laugh because? Sgt. Dildo just sit back and watch what's coming. Rhino ain't even started yet.
You laugh because? Sgt. Dildo just sit back and watch what's coming. Rhino ain't even started yet.
ok mr newbie with 90 posts, thanks for your input. *flush* goes the toilet.
If we are talking science the scientific data shows you can fill back 100% and even overcompensate in 24 hours after depleting. You don't even need insulin for that.
But this is bodybuilding and how you look is what counts. Some look better depleted. Some look better carbed up. And etc etc.
Yeah I am laffin right now. "Rhino aint even started yet." From looking at all the Rhino pics from the show, he didnt even get started with anything(diet,training,food). Hope this helps
Tha's the best you could come up with cumcatcher? Why don't you continue to be the token fluff fag for Peter North's videos.
Looks like fat rolls even in the most muscular.
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YIP
Zack
Oh I didn't know post counts meant something. That's cool, because you're still 130lbs.
Showstuffa STFU shut up is such a harsh group of words.Now grow up and stop with the name calling you Pathetic Turd.If Jack needs anything on his back it would be less Fat.IMO.Now STFU.
I don't know you,I would not know you if you didn't come on here and blow shit about yourself.Think about that next time you come on here and tell people how great you are.At least you didn't use gear for that show and cause any ill health.Just imagine how you would feel if you loaded and looked like THAT.?????.
Please explain how he possibly could overdiet when he still was fat?
YIP
Zack
He has very little muscle mass too. He almost looks like a natural competitor.
He has very little muscle mass too. He almost looks like a natural competitor.
jack didnt look good...it happens.
it would be cool just to have a thread talking about why jack was off and what changes he should make.
who gives a shit about all this bs back and forth name calling, ect.
jack why do you even respond to that stuff?...it only fuels the fire
Burning and name calling is all this place is about.
I agree, so shut up, whore.
Why do you call women that?
Here we go again Showstuffa.You poor greasy dick licker.STFU Turd Eater.
Here we go again Showstuffa.You poor greasy dick licker.STFU Turd Eater.
Why do you seem so angry all the time?
Hey Walrus, why don't you enter the mr. getbig contest? you will definitely do better than 18th. Probably 5th or 6th
Thing is, he was mentioning coming in at 250 lbs, dieting down from 300 lbs I believe.
But he ended up weighing 235 lbs?
That's 15 lbs, and IMO, he wasn't ripped to the bone.
Did he go natural for the last 6-8 weeks or something?
YIP
Zack
BOOM!
This is only true in cases where the person(s) does not have a good eye for properly assessing what is occurring in a given situation. However, it does depend on what had been done prior to "the standard carb up."
Jack,
f**k whatever these fuckstick professional ass hats have to say about you. You did your best and guess
Jack--
I say shut all these ass hats up by simply posting your night before pictures where you stated you were dead on....Certainly someone of your stature/and money must run with a very large posse'...And camera's must have been going off left and right up in the hotel room....
So end as this shit and just simply shut the ass hats up by posting those dead on pictures....
peace
Or why not carb up and get some photos taken next weekend? Hire a photographer to take some pictures and perhaps you can... TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!
YIP
Zack
Breaking news.... I was just informed that while prejudging was occurring, the janitor came out on stage to wipe up the floor and in doing so the judges actually placed him higher than Jack.
Rhino Was competing in his first pro Show, and cracked the top 20. That pretty damn good if you ask me.
DO you expect him to crack the top 5 in his first fucking pro show? Give the guy a break.
Rhino you did well and are an inspiration. The easiest thing to do is critisize someone, f**k the rim jobs who are hating on you.
ok i still dont know what an ass hat is
BOOM!
That dude looks like ass..makes venom vince look impressive..
Who, may i ask, is that?!
He was thinking about going pro in the PDI, but he's all, "nahh"
I don't get why I keep seeing threads about Jack London. This guy is so 3rd tier.... we shouldnt even bother. He looked like poop. Plain and simple!
ok i still dont know what an ass hat isIt's also called a tramp stamp. Lotsa girls are gonna be regretting getting these in about twenty years or so, if not already. ::)
I don't get why I keep seeing threads about Jack London. This guy is so 3rd tier.... we shouldnt even bother. He looked like poop. Plain and simple!
Why you got a problem with it?
He talked big. He came in 18th place.
There's something wrong with this picture. Something obviously is very wrong.
According to himself, he looked good coming into the show. But came in 15 lbs under his projected weight, while still looking soft and sporting a bit of fat in certain parts, especially the lower back and the midsection.
So I think it's perfectly ok that everyone is interested in what happened along the way.
Had he kept a low profile, not making claims of grandeur, nobody would've cared.
That's basically it.
YIP
Zack
Why you got a problem with it?
He talked big. He came in 18th place.
There's something wrong with this picture. Something obviously is very wrong.
According to himself, he looked good coming into the show. But came in 15 lbs under his projected weight, while still looking soft and sporting a bit of fat in certain parts, especially the lower back and the midsection.
So I think it's perfectly ok that everyone is interested in what happened along the way.
Had he kept a low profile, not making claims of grandeur, nobody would've cared.
That's basically it.
YIP
Zack
It's funny, I only told one person what my weight was....One person, now I know what is going on around here.
You blew it big time hedge....
Jack just called me about an hour ago. He wanted to say thank for my support and others too. On weekends he is not on the computer. I think he has said this before. He did feel bad about his placing but said the top 5 guys were really really good. He came in at 235, so a bit leaner than I think he wanted. I am sure there will be pics up tommorrow. He may wait till next year to put on some weight and come in bigger. He is a good guy and maybe caught up in the excitement of the show. You guys bash him but BB is just a hobby and he does what he can when he can. He definitely stirred up things and from what I have read was a crowd favorite. Good job Jack, just come back next time even better.
Hm..
I'd say you don't know what is going on around here.
Your contest weight has been discussed for awhile. What's the big deal anyhow?
So...
YIP
Zack
It's funny, I only told one person what my weight was....One person, now I know what is going on around here.
You blew it big time hedge....
Im just curious as to how this Hedgehog guy looks anyone point me to a thread where he posted a picture, he sure talks alot of shit
Im just curious as to how this Hedgehog guy looks anyone point me to a thread where he posted a picture, he sure talks alot of shit
Rhino, will you ever change your name to RHINO230 ?
How about WALRUS18 ?DAYUM!
How about WALRUS18 ?Ahahahaha
Someone here said "Rhino talked big and then came in 18th". Nothing wrong with talking big. One thing I've learned is that you have to have a LOT of self confidence to hang for long in this sport and thank god for Jack- he's got alot of self-confidence.
It's like your Mommy and Daddy always said- people who put down other people feel badly about themselves.. and boy there are alot of those posting to this thread.
Hang in there Rhino!
Mike
Uh oh, where did I say I was 15 pounds under my projected weight????
It's also called a tramp stamp. Lotsa girls are gonna be regretting getting these in about twenty years or so, if not already. ::)
Jack your time would be better spent in the gym Man if you take any of this stuff serious you are stupid.as if anyone cares.Look around Jack you could die tomorrow and all these arseholes would say RIP jack you were a top guy.Anyway your rich$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Relax.
IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU WANT TO TELL SOMETHING TO SOMEONE YOU THINK YOU CAN TRUST.....LOL
ok vince, out with it, what's the beef?
I believe Vinny is competing in the North Americans next year.
He is mad because I exposed him. He decided to go back to the ifbb and I believe it was a ruse. I would bet to see him very soon on an npc stage. Wayne even offered him a "special appearnence" so it was not due to any injury. He changed his mind, like I said, at least I took 18th on my own merit, and did not get a free ride because of some deal I cut......
Eat that Vinny.
So much for professionlism and being stand-up guys. Damn shame. Peace.
Well, it's the same story, I get beat up and thats okay, but as soon as I fire back, I am a bad guy.
My words are and always have been in defense of attacks upon me.
This whole board has done nothing but bring me down....thats the truth.
Well, it's the same story, I get beat up and thats okay, but as soon as I fire back, I am a bad guy.come on bro-----this board has brought u more exposure than u could ever hope to get anywhere else--------if it wasn't for Getbig u would just be another obscure amatueur nobody talks about-----------
My words are and always have been in defense of attacks upon me.
This whole board has done nothing but bring me down....thats the truth.
Well, it's the same story, I get beat up and thats okay, but as soon as I fire back, I am a bad guy.
My words are and always have been in defense of attacks upon me.
This whole board has done nothing but bring me down....thats the truth.
He is mad because I exposed him. He decided to go back to the ifbb and I believe it was a ruse. I would bet to see him very soon on an npc stage. Wayne even offered him a "special appearnence" so it was not due to any injury. He changed his mind, like I said, at least I took 18th on my own merit, and did not get a free ride because of some deal I cut......
Eat that Vinny.
He is mad because I exposed him. He decided to go back to the ifbb and I believe it was a ruse. I would bet to see him very soon on an npc stage. Wayne even offered him a "special appearnence" so it was not due to any injury. He changed his mind, like I said, at least I took 18th on my own merit, and did not get a free ride because of some deal I cut......
Eat that Vinny.
I am just having fun with your 18th place.
Yes I changed my mind, and so did Vince, TJ...and now De Francesco the winner of the Heavy's at the North America.
You won the bet..I'll be competing in the Masters Nationals next year.
if i went to the PDI, it would mean i was GIVEN a PRO CARD, not earning one.
if i went to the PDI, it would mean i would be competing against guys who COULDN'T crack top 10 in the NPC Nationals.
Wayne asked if I wanted to still be part of the show as a GUEST POSER, and I turned it down.
Next time I compete, everyone will see the left bicep will look smaller....TRUST ME I AM NOT AFFRAID TO COMPETE AGAINST YOU ....I WOULD MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A NOVICE COMPETITOR, OH WAIT....17 OTHERS TOOK CARE OF THAT FOR ME....LOL
Wayne told all of us that there will be a FLORIDA, NEVADA, and a NYC qualifier before the NOC.
Next thing you know....no FLORIDA or NEVADA shows.
We were even told that after the SLOVAKIA, HUNGRY, and the ENGLAND shows we would go to Spain for a TRADE SHOW to sit at a PDI booth to sell photos and meet the fans, then compete on Saturday in the Spain event, then go to ITALY...
Next thing you know...no TRADE SHOW, no SPAIN CONTEST, no ITALY CONTEST.
I was getting nervous.....what the f**k did i get my self into, is what i asked my self.
YES I CHANGED MY MIND, ASK WAYNE ABOUT HOW I TRIED TO GET OUT OF THE SHOW BACK IN MAY....
I CUT NO DEAL WITH ANYONE...ONLY PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE THE NPC/IFBB THINK WE ARE CUTTING DEALS....
So much for professionlism and being stand-up guys. Damn shame. Peace.
Jack, you have many fans. Don't worry about the haters. Your fans know how good you are. You will be back, bigger & better & more ripped. We can't wait. 8)
You are very right, I am embarrassed, for all of us.
I too was embarrassed for all of us...when you walked on stage.
rhino,you seem like a hardworking guy in your professional life,u train and have health,compete a little bit,why stress out over everyone's comments and affairs.everyone can still like u just take a break from posting on every thing you hear.
Like I said, you really need to take a look at your demeanor.
Tell me, cause I always wondered, whats the view like from the cheap seats??????
Stop being a hater, and be yourself.
"Thank you, I NEED to hear that."
Umm, better to get your self-validation from ANYWHERE except an internet board!
LOLLOLOLOLOLL
I think you just hit on why JAck is so pathetic. Perfect example.
meltdown
Very good advice, my nature is to care about what people think of me, and it always brings me paindon't we all ,u seem ok ,not everybody want's their laundry thrown out on the internet ,if u know what i mean.
don't we all ,u seem ok ,not everybody want's their laundry thrown out on the internet ,if u know what i mean.
You know what vinny, I have been thinking alot about you, and what has transpired and here is where I am:
We are supposed to be freinds, above all else, I should have kept my mouth shut, and am sorry.
I am no longer, even in defense, going to bash anyone on this board at all, it only makes me look bad, and am sorry to those who have received my rath.
Although I am upset with my placing, I know it was because i screwed up my carbing and you know what that can do, but I am very dissapointed in the people on this board who have turned on me so easily....very dissapointed.
I mean hell, someone told me to take a shotgun and blow my own head off!!!
I am going to be a leader, not a follower, and take the stand,
You are a great bodybuilder Vinny, no matter where you compete you will do well, and I hope we can bury this and remain freinds..
Thants it. the rest of you may want to think about this.
Can you imagine taking 4300 pics of a show? I guess he should get some props for doing it.
IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU WANT TO TELL SOMETHING TO SOMEONE YOU THINK YOU CAN TRUST.....LOL
Dude thats hardly a meltdown. Your at 200 something posts and your calling out people?. FYI Rhino is loved on getbig, If I recall you melted down quite a few times as the SQUAD destroyed you. I mean c'mon with a name like Joey Tito.
This account has less than 200 posts, but my main one has well over 1000...
Jack is a poser, pure and simple.
"The SQUAD destroyed" me? LMAO!!! You idiot, only I and a few others can appreciate the irony of this, but I AM part of that squad that hammered "Joey Tito."
Yeah, I'm a poser, now you sound like Chick, calling me a fraud.
Poser, who is the one who hides behind a computer?????? you fucking jap fag
monster meltdown
Yeah, if something is supposed to be a 'secret', then don't tell anyone.
Obviously, it was not meant to be a secret.
Tre, it wasn't a secret...i just asked Jack not to say anything, I wasn't mad at what he said, but only that he posted what i asked not to post.
Jack was defending the PDI....Its all good, everything i have posted since the NOC, was just your typical east coast fucking around....
Jack never had the publicity like he is getting, and to be honest....i haven't had much too, since i stopped competing.
So IN THE END, we both look like idiots on a message board....LOL
it's all good, its all fun...and nobody got hurt.
Jack has passion for competing...
Just like the first place guy
Just like the last place guy
Just like me
Just like Arvilla
Just like the guys in their 50's,60's and 70's that show up at the masters nationals every year.
Its just in your blood.... you can't help it....
I never met a bb who wasn't a shit talker to some degree...
During contest prep its even worse....you talk a lot of shit....you need too
You need to go into a competition with tremendous momentum like your gonna destroy everyone there no matter what....this kind of thinking is what carries you through those weeks.
Then you deal with where the chips fall after you come back to reality.
Dieting not only changes your body but it changes your mind...the way you think,talk,act,etc.
Like Lee said...takes years to get good at what works for you the last week so we learn from our mistakes.
Props to Jack for getting on any stage.....And super duper props for having the sack to post on here with so many sipping the *Haterade
Yeah Arvilla is starting to act like he's some seasoned pro, cause he did a local show.
Jack has passion for competing...Oh brother. It's just in your blood.
Just like the first place guy
Just like the last place guy
Just like me
Just like Arvilla
Just like the guys in their 50's,60's and 70's that show up at the masters nationals every year.
Its just in your blood.... you can't help it....
Oh brother. It's just in your blood.
No, abusing drugs is in your blood, nothing more. Let's not make widespread roid use into some gladiator battle. Or better yet, a sport that requires actual talent.
Competing is usually a way for middle aged men to justify their drug use, not much more. That's great that you compete, but let's keep it real.
oh btw, what are you doing on a bodybuilding site if you have no respect for bodybuilders? hmmm...
Why would Croatch's disdain for drug abusers affect his ability to respect bodybuilders? 99% of people who lift weights will never touch a steroid.
Croatch, do you respect the natural BBer sin your gym who eat, train, and sleep and never think of drugs? And do you respect those people who compete naturally?
If the answer to both is Yes, then it's very clear that Croatch does respect BBers. he just doesn't like drug users. And that's his perrogative, and shouldn't matter to him being on a bodybuilding site.
Oh brother. It's just in your blood.
No, abusing drugs is in your blood, nothing more. Let's not make widespread roid use into some gladiator battle. Or better yet, a sport that requires actual talent.
Competing is usually a way for middle aged men to justify their drug use, not much more. That's great that you compete, but let's keep it real.
Yeah Arvilla is starting to act like he's some seasoned pro, cause he did a local show.
I was gonna leave it alone, but being that someone else sees it too....
Jack you keep talking about how you screwed up your carb up, that you normally don't carb load. That you know how your body responds and shouldv'e done it the way you always do.
WTF are you talking about? When's the last time you competed? 1995? So stop hiding behind "i missed my peak" like youv'e done this 25 times before.
I have done this 25 times before. You know, the more people like you post on me, the more I realize how little you actually know.
In all seriousness, if you did that's news to me
What other shows have you competed in?
1989 Mr. Phila/2nd
1989 Mr Deleware county/overall
1989 Mr. Usa/?
1989/Mr. America/? (forget the year-Matt Dufresne won)
1990 East Coast/class winner
1991 police and fire games, class winner
1991 Mr. Pittsburg/2nd
1992 Suburaban champs/2nd
1992 Mr. Palm Springs/class Winner
1992 Jr. Usa/ 6th (I think)
1996 Mr North America/overall winner
2004 Keystone champs/overall winner
2005 Atlantic states/7th
2005 Mr. Delaware/masters overall winner
These are the ones I can remeber, I think there were 2 otheres, and my dates may be off by a year, but all around then.
1997 World Campionships/3rd Place-greece
That enough for you?????
So I fucke this one up, but have been quite competitive in the past. To say I don't belong onstage???
That is just Chick hating on me.
Well shut my mouth.
I still think I can defeat you though ;D