People finally getting serious in Arizona

[Fury]

That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. In all fairness countries with a high percentage of visa denials are simply not able to take advantage of this loophole massively since the number of visas issued are extremely limited. And if you're a German or Dutch for example, or simply a citizen of any highly developed country why would you need to do something like that when your life is pretty good where you are, it doesn't make any sense.

You are a fucking idiot. But thank you for confirming that.

It's amazing how utterly clueless you are on most of the things you rant and rave about.

[Danny]

You are a fucking idiot. But thank you for confirming that.

It's amazing how utterly clueless you are on most of the things you rant and rave about.

which part of my post was idiotic dumbass?? Why don't you point out what I'm so clueless about....instead of just calling me an idiot.  I would be the first one to admit I was wrong if there is something stupid in my post if you have a solid argument. Shoot. I'm listening.

[Fury]

which part of my post was idiotic dumbass?? Why don't you point out what I'm so clueless about....instead of just calling me an idiot.   I would be the first one to admit I was wrong if there is something stupid in my post if you have a solid argument. Shoot. I'm listening.

Your entire post was one pathetic attempt to discredit me without providing ANYTHING of substance. First off, why are you using two first world countries in Germany and the Netherlands, both of whom have immigration problems of their own, in your rebuttal? Talk about a stupid example and one that was expected for someone reaching as badly as you are.  

And secondly, what does the number of visas have to do with anything? The government is not likely to kick someone out after having a child that is born an American citizen on these shores. They'll stick around for a few years (any amount of time is too long) and leech benefits and other luxuries off of us. Where are the statistics of visa denials for people who have children born here? I suppose you can bring up visa denials as a whole (those including student denials and other reasons for visa denials) to try to give to weight to your argument. KCballer does the same thing you're trying to do with regards to that. Seems to be a recurring theme for people who need something concrete to hold their argument up.

"Dur dur, why would German and Dutch citizens leave their life of luxury?" I'm still dumbfounded as to how someone manages to equate a Turkish owned hotel to German and Dutch citizens and end up thinking they have a sound argument.  

[Danny]

Your entire post was one pathetic attempt to discredit me without providing ANYTHING of substance. First off, why are you using two first world countries in Germany and the Netherlands, both of whom have immigration problems of their own, in your rebuttal? Talk about a stupid example and one that was expected for someone reaching as badly as you are.  

And secondly, what does the number of visas have to do with anything? The government is not likely to kick someone out after having a child that is born an American citizen on these shores. They'll stick around for a few years (any amount of time is too long) and leech benefits and other luxuries off of us. Where are the statistics of visa denials for people who have children born here? I suppose you can bring up visa denials as a whole (those including student denials and other reasons for visa denials) to try to give to weight to your argument.

"Dur dur, why would German and Dutch citizens leave their life of luxury?" I'm still dumbfounded as to how someone manages to equate a Turkish owned hotel to German and Dutch citizens and end up thinking they have a sound argument.  

TRying to discredit you??? U never cease to amaze me!!!!  My first sentence was
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. in reference to the practice you were talking about. I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU ...maybe if you open your eyes you'll see that.   

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Reason I was using two countries like Germany and Netherlands( which were picked randomly could be Japan or France for all I care), here's the answer . BECAUSE THEY COULD TRAVEL TO USA WITHOUT A VISA AND THEY ARE UNLIKELY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOOPHOLE.


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Reason I was talking about numbers of issued/denied  visas
Countries like let's say Albania, Bulgaria or any african country where poverty is in full swing will not produce a wave of immigrants to take advantage of this thing since their citizens are NOT Issued visas to get into US massively. Yes there might be one 1-10- 100 cases each and there but it does not amount to serious migration

[Fury]

TRying to discredit you??? U never cease to amaze me!!!!  My first sentence was
That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. in reference to the practice you were talking about. I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU ...maybe if you open your eyes you'll see that.   

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Reason I was using two countries like Germany and Netherlands( which were picked randomly could be Japan or France for all I care), here's the answer . BECAUSE THEY COULD TRAVEL TO USA WITHOUT A VISA AND THEY ARE UNLIKELY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOOPHOLE.


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Reason I was talking about numbers of issued/denied  visas
Countries like let's say Albania, Bulgaria or any african country where poverty is in full swing will not produce a wave of immigrants to take advantage of this thing since their citizens are NOT Issued visas to get into US massively. Yes there might be one 1-10- 100 cases each and there but it does not amount to serious migration

Well, I'll admit that I misinterpreted your post then.

But the problem isn't German or Dutch citizens. Of course they're not going to use that loophole to their advantage as Germany and the Netherlands are OK countries to live in. It's third-worlders that would be more than willing to come here to have their kid and then stick around for years because the government isn't going to kick out an American citizen. And for that matter, Germany, the Netherlands and most of Europe are good examples of this. They've had a massive influx of Turkish and other Muslims immigrants (and the problems that go along with them) using loopholes and other means of gaining citizenship there, hence why anti-immigration candidates have been gaining massive political steam over there as of late.

[Soul Crusher]

BF - your story is exactly why we need to give these bums a boot in the ass aling with their anchor bomb babies.