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IRON CROSS

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #100 on: October 16, 2019, 11:06:45 PM »
True, but he did hand pick his own judges.


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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2019, 04:30:03 AM »
No shit though
Then why aren't you doing it?

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #102 on: October 17, 2019, 05:30:42 AM »
Sometimes you end up just getting the shaft.  :-\

A job like that can open doors for you.

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #103 on: October 17, 2019, 05:56:36 AM »
Depends what type of education. Some educations there is no laid out straight path or educational system or teacher classes online.

But yes most today can be learnt online.

Most computer programmers are mainly self learnt through use of internet today. That speaks volumes...

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #104 on: October 17, 2019, 06:00:18 AM »
I'm all for trade schools and 2 year degrees. Statistically, people with the most education fair the best, career wise. On average, people with professional degrees earn 6x as much as people who do not graduate from high school
That could also have to do with the fact that people with higher IQ fair better getting through the educational system.

If the educational system was gone tomorrow the same people would still do the best.

If you are self motivated most things can be self learnt today through the internet. Problem is people lack self motivation.

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #105 on: October 17, 2019, 06:13:06 AM »
That could also have to do with the fact that people with higher IQ fair better getting through the educational system.

If the educational system was gone tomorrow the same people would still do the best.

If you are self motivated most things can be self learnt today through the internet. Problem is people lack self motivation.

But the educational system isn't gone and won't be gone.  People with education make more and have more opportunity. We can all think of outliers that didn't go to school and make $100 million doing roofing (coaches friends), but 99% of the time the person with further education wins. I can take what I have learned throughout business school and practical experience, and do anything in any field. I love sports and so I created an entire division in our company that delivers technology platforms managing ticketing, sponsorships, manages player contracts, and does all back end accounting for them. I travel all over the world and meet with the teams as I choose to take a lot of these accounts for myself as I love going to games and seeing the operational side of the teams.   It was simply an idea I had but through school I had a better handle on how to take an idea to market and the hurdles I would face and how to get over them.


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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #106 on: October 17, 2019, 06:19:19 AM »
Yeah, be careful.

The greatest fallacy about college is that you're trained to work.  Not so.  In fact, you're trained by people who have often only ever held the job of learning and they teach you to learn.  They do not teach you to work because they do not often have strong connections to the commercial world.

I've met many, many graduates in my field and the lions share of them have absolutely no virtue, other than that they could learn.  They have no experience, very little initiative and nobody told them that they would need to work outside of university learning, to get themselves up to scratch so when they came out, their prospective employers could pick them, instead of the complete and utter useless cnuts that most of them seem, fresh out.

They come to interviews and you give them the slightest angle that isn't within that very narrow perspective of how they learn and they fall over.  They fall over with very dumb questions that at the right time, when they were actually doing that subject, they'd have nailed.  

I was one of them.  In my final year, I had this intense question going on in my head.  "Yeah, but how do I get paid for this - how do I bring value?".  A question that was never, ever answered during that time.    My virtue was that I was interested in programming and had done it over the years myself, so it wasn't hard to immediately get into it, commercially.  None of that was really from my degree, that was from me teaching myself to work outside of university, not just learning shit and regurgitating onto a test paper and promptly forgetting all of it.

There are reasons to go to college but you should not go to college with the idea that you're becoming commercially viable when you walk out.  You're going there to jump hoops so that your first employer can give you tasks and know that you might not be a complete fuckup.  You will cost your employer plenty of money for them to get value from most of you.  But they'll take the ones who showed the initiative first, of course.

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #107 on: October 17, 2019, 12:02:04 PM »
That could also have to do with the fact that people with higher IQ fair better getting through the educational system.

If the educational system was gone tomorrow the same people would still do the best.

If you are self motivated most things can be self learnt today through the internet. Problem is people lack self motivation.
This is absolutely true.

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #108 on: October 17, 2019, 03:34:03 PM »
Read the elementary school thread first before you decide to go or not to go to college.

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2020, 04:52:52 AM »
 I am willing to go to college because I have never not wanted to go. Ever since I first started going to school I've been looking forward to going and doing the whole college thing. :) Also the fact that the degree will probably come in handy when I go out to get a job is a nice plus. I can't believe that there's only a few months left before I'm there. I'm working on my application essay using collegeapps resource

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2020, 11:06:00 AM »
Never used my degree. Do you need to go, no, is it beneficial to go, yes.
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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2020, 11:12:14 AM »
I am willing to go to college because I have never not wanted to go. Ever since I first started going to school I've been looking forward to going and doing the whole college thing. :) Also the fact that the degree will probably come in handy when I go out to get a job is a nice plus. I can't believe that there's only a few months left before I'm there.

what field are you getting your bachelors in?

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2020, 11:03:30 PM »
I am willing to go to college because I have never not wanted to go. Ever since I first started going to school I've been looking forward to going and doing the whole college thing. :) Also the fact that the degree will probably come in handy when I go out to get a job is a nice plus. I can't believe that there's only a few months left before I'm there.

Does your university supply transportation?  Short bus, perhaps?

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Re: Do You Need To Go To College?,
« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2020, 03:11:51 AM »
what field are you getting your bachelors in?

Let’s hope it’s a BA in English with a focus on composition- this fool can hardly write a sentence.

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