Author Topic: rich vs. anderson (Read 5659 times)

texasRUSH · « **on:** October 11, 2006, 06:33:34 AM »

who do you guys got on this fight?

anyone have ufc64's card by chance? this fight is the whole reason why i'm staking out a table at hooters 2 hours early for the fight!

I got anderson in either the first or second round..no way this fight will go to the cards...

or am i underestimating franklin?

jarhead · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2006, 07:35:34 AM »

Rich "Ace" Franklin all the way.

texasRUSH · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2006, 07:39:28 AM »

why rich?

doison · « **Reply #3 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:09:15 AM »

Quote from: texasRUSH on October 11, 2006, 07:39:28 AM

why rich?

He's not exactly a bad fighter....
What is he, 23-1?? That's on hell of a MMA record.

I think it's going to be close, for sure. But, Franklin ain't no chump.....even though he doesn't exactly look like a badass....

Scimowser · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2006, 11:48:02 AM »

Rich is a Mr Nice Guy who can kick the shit out of you. Hes getting better all the time and his striking is key to this fight. If hes fluent and crisp with his punches and doesnt leave himself wide open then hes got a hell of a chance. He basically walked through Evan Tanner and hes one of the best in the business - but i guess its all about what happens on the night

torquemada · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2006, 04:07:53 PM »

Franklin= best middleweight in the country
Silva= puncher's chance

there it is in a nut shell...

americanbulldog · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2006, 05:07:20 PM »

Anderson has straighter strikes, Rich throws looping punches. Rich is better conditioned, if it goes deep into the fourth or fifth round, Rich can take him. Or he must get him to the ground and sub him. (which would be tough)

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2006, 07:46:14 PM »

The only advantage Rich has in this fight is his size and power. Anderson has better and cleaner striking, better footwork, a slight reach advantage, and a better chin. They are pretty even in terms of the groundgame, but I think Rich's wrestling is a little weak as far as take down defense goes. Rich's only loss was to a southpaw, Anderson Silva is a southpaw, but, he can fight just as good out of the orthodox stance as well. Bottom line is, Anderson will pick him apart standing, straight strikes beat looping ones everytime. Plus, Rich as a champion, has been inactive for seven months due to his injuries, and he is getting thrown right back in the mix with one of the top fighters in that weightclass, this has to be in the back of Rich's mind. Rich's best bet would be to take Anderson down and use his size and strength to tire him out for a few rounds and then either go for the kill in the fourth or fifth or get a Decision. If he doesen't he will get his ass handed to him and alot of tuf noobs will cry once again. I would say 60-40 advantage Spider.

Fury · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2006, 08:04:18 PM »

I'm going to with Anderson. Rich is good but I think he's going to lose this one. I agree with Chute that after a 7 month layoff, going up against Anderson is not what most people would want. Anderson by KO.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #9 on:** October 11, 2006, 08:34:57 PM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on October 11, 2006, 07:46:14 PM

The only advantage Rich has in this fight is his size and power. Anderson has better and cleaner striking, better footwork, a slight reach advantage, and a better chin. They are pretty even in terms of the groundgame, but I think Rich's wrestling is a little weak as far as take down defense goes. Rich's only loss was to a southpaw, Anderson Silva is a southpaw, but, he can fight just as good out of the orthodox stance as well. Bottom line is, Anderson will pick him apart standing, straight strikes beat looping ones everytime. Plus, Rich as a champion, has been inactive for seven months due to his injuries, and he is getting thrown right back in the mix with one of the top fighters in that weightclass, this has to be in the back of Rich's mind. Rich's best bet would be to take Anderson down and use his size and strength to tire him out for a few rounds and then either go for the kill in the fourth or fifth or get a Decision. If he doesen't he will get his ass handed to him and alot of tuf noobs will cry once again. I would say 60-40 advantage Spider.

I know a striker who throws a looping lead hand hook and overhand right (I know it is preceded by a kempo eye poke) that KOs punchers with straight punches.

Fury · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2006, 08:48:49 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on October 11, 2006, 08:34:57 PM

I know a striker who throws a looping lead hand hook and overhand right (I know it is preceded by a kempo eye poke) that KOs punchers with straight punches.

hahahahah yes, it's too easy when you lead with the eye pokes! Monster!!!!!!!!

Bluto · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2006, 08:48:03 AM »

rich round 1.

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 12, 2006, 10:59:16 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on October 12, 2006, 08:48:03 AM

rich round 1.

round 1 by brutal K.O!!! Three punch combo with a straight right and good night!!!

Fury · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2006, 11:49:55 AM »

Anderson has this in the bag.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2006, 03:08:37 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on October 11, 2006, 08:34:57 PM

I know a striker who throws a looping lead hand hook and overhand right (I know it is preceded by a kempo eye poke) that KOs punchers with straight punches.

Franklin has said himself that he is not a KO puncher, his only one punch KO is against Nate Quarry. Chuck Liddell hits alot harder than Franklin ever will, he also thumbs alot harder too.

TheBigAristotle · « **Reply #15 on:** October 12, 2006, 06:16:55 PM »

I'll go with Rich Franklin to take this one even though Silva is a hell of a fighter. They both have good cardio but Franklin will have atleast 15 lbs. on Andersen which will allow him to muscle Silva around in the clinch. I think Franklin will punish him with elbows and knees from the clinch.

Scimowser · « **Reply #16 on:** October 13, 2006, 02:40:01 AM »

the thing about Chuck is he doesnt need the eye pokes, his power is basically unmatched and he can dominate his opponents easily enough without it. Now and again he'll have an off night, but the power is always there. Rich does have good punching power, but he wears you down through the rounds with combinations and hes pretty good on the ground too

americanbulldog · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2006, 02:53:23 AM »

Quote from: Scimowser on October 13, 2006, 02:40:01 AM

the thing about Chuck is he doesnt need the eye pokes, his power is basically unmatched and he can dominate his opponents easily enough without it. Now and again he'll have an off night, but the power is always there. Rich does have good punching power, but he wears you down through the rounds with combinations and hes pretty good on the ground too

The punch that KOs you is the one you don't see. The thumbs play a great role in blinding you. In both Randy matches that Chack won, he was hit with an overhand right, and a right hook. Randy didn't see either punch. If you look on Sherdog at the photos, you will clearly see the punches were preceded by the Kempo eye poke. Against Tito, Tito was shielding quiet nicely prior to the poke. Then Chack poked him, he didn't defend the kick as well, and he shelled and took bombs from Chack. Post fight, Titos cornea was red and filled with blood. Tiger Whites night was ended with a thumb.

RancherRanger · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2006, 05:02:17 AM »

I'm picking Silva to win tomorrow, he has better standup and Rich's chin has always been suspect!

jarhead · « **Reply #19 on:** October 13, 2006, 07:16:20 AM »

Quote from: *ChuteBoxe* on October 12, 2006, 03:08:37 PM

Franklin has said himself that he is not a KO puncher, his only one punch KO is against Nate Quarry. Chuck Liddell hits alot harder than Franklin ever will, he also thumbs alot harder too.

Boy that is true. I thought he killed Nate Quarry, literally. I don't get the whole "chin is suspect". Where has that been proven?

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #20 on:** October 13, 2006, 11:52:29 AM »

Quote from: jarhead on October 13, 2006, 07:16:20 AM

Boy that is true. I thought he killed Nate Quarry, literally. I don't get the whole "chin is suspect". Where has that been proven?

Rich got dropped by Evan Tanner,Dave Loiseau and KO'd by Machida. He didn't just get knocked off balance either, on all these occasions he was legitimately hurt, he also got busted up pretty good in his fight with Rivera. Anderson Silva on the other hand has never been dropped, hurt, or Ko'd. He has taken some clean shots from hard punchers and never been phased. Compared to Anderson Silva, Ace's chin is suspect.

Fury · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2006, 12:57:09 PM »

Silva by KO.

manfromyard · « **Reply #22 on:** October 15, 2006, 12:12:10 AM »

lol@ this thread. UFC with its overrated champs...

ReEvolution · « **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2006, 12:35:19 AM »

Quote from: torquemada on October 11, 2006, 04:07:53 PM

Franklin= best middleweight in the country
Silva= puncher's chance

there it is in a nut shell...

silva just pounded him.....puncher's chance?
he's a better fighter, it was obvious

torquemada · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2006, 05:27:46 AM »

SPOILER

WTF happened there? Rich Franklin just got beat down in Rd 1! He just got...