Ronnie versus Dorian training???

[SteelePegasus]

I think he bounces on squats but he keeps tension on the muscles.  I think if he lifted as strict as Dorian he would be even in strength for the most part.

you are funny as hell little man

[IceCold]

it depends on the person.

by dorian and ronnie had tremendous success using both their styles.

dorian got injured, but so has just about every HIT guy (tommi t. marko from finland, etc.).

not many people could handle dorian's style - maximum intensity.

not many people could do coleman's split - 6 days a week.

during both their reigns as mr. olympia, both were recognized as the hardest trainers among their competitors. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

it depends on the person.

by dorian and ronnie had tremendous success using both their styles.

dorian got injured, but so has just about every HIT guy (tommi t. marko from finland, etc.).

not many people could handle dorian's style - maximum intensity.

not many people could do coleman's split - 6 days a week.

during both their reigns as mr. olympia, both were recognized as the hardest trainers among their competitors. 

Great post. !!

[Cap]

you are funny as hell little man

Nice retort.  I guess you are massive. 

[the shadow]

Maybe if Ronnie was stricter in his he wouldn't have torn his muscles so much

just look at this piece of shit..RONNIES TORN MUSCLES LOOK WORSE THAN DORIANS TORN MUSCLES..PERIOD

[realkarateblackbelt]

Ronnie is a mutant toad.

[the shadow]

it depends on the person.

by dorian and ronnie had tremendous success using both their styles.

dorian got injured, but so has just about every HIT guy (tommi t. marko from finland, etc.).

not many people could handle dorian's style - maximum intensity.

not many people could do coleman's split - 6 days a week.

during both their reigns as mr. olympia, both were recognized as the hardest trainers among their competitors.

jay cutler uses even better form with moderate weights.at times he goes higher but he has no need to look like a train wreck.high volume rulz.jay cutler does not compramise on the intensity too.he lifts with all his might.yates although had alot of torn muscles but dorians dry condition covered his torn muscles.even with torn muscles his condition never took a back seat.in ronnies case his torn muscles look worse and because of his soft condition it looks 10 times worse than dorians torn muscles or any bodybuilders torn muscles

[the shadow]

Ronnie is a mutant toad.

mmmmmmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhahahahahaha..classic comment

[JaggyShortBuff]

Something 'the shadow' will crank one out to...........

[LASTREP72]

Something 'the shadow' will crank one out to...........

dam Jay looks bloated as hell

[LASTREP72]

Which one is better?  Which one do you prefer?

Don't think any one routine is better or not - you guys kill me do you accually think Dorian or Ronnie trained the same style year round. They swapped training styles all the time (but never as drastic as switching to something like DoggCrapp though). Their routines are pretty similar Ronnie uses more reps. As to who looks the best, well that's a matter of opinion so only a fool would debate that - as to who's the best competitive bodybuilder well the records speak for themselves
BTW just look at this uncontrolled terrible form - anyone could to that if they just "threw" the weight around like he's doing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm1rcSqKgU Yeah buddy!!!!

[Bear]

Maybe if Ronnie was stricter in his he wouldn't have torn his muscles so much

Can you see Dorian's arm in the barbell row pic? Or is that his good arm? Anyway, Dorian tore himself up just as much, if not more than Ronnie, and at a younger age after winning less Olympias!

[the shadow]

dam Jay looks bloated as hell

jay is 295lbs in this pic and looking twice the size of that little guy..

[KSA]

Yates

Coleman

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[logical?]

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I don't know if it's because we've seen alot of Yates and Coleman, but in that Yates vid, at about the 50 second mark, when the music goes low and the camera cuts to the back relaxed shot of him backstage, you just think- fuck, that's hardcore.

[IceCold]

jay cutler uses even better form with moderate weights.at times he goes higher but he has no need to look like a train wreck.high volume rulz.jay cutler does not compramise on the intensity too.he lifts with all his might.yates although had alot of torn muscles but dorians dry condition covered his torn muscles.even with torn muscles his condition never took a back seat.in ronnies case his torn muscles look worse and because of his soft condition it looks 10 times worse than dorians torn muscles or any bodybuilders torn muscles

jay trains hard, but i think a tad less than yates and ronnie. 

he doesnt go all out with the weight (even for 8-10 reps), so how can you say he trains as hard?

his form is nowhere near yates' form. 

yates has the best form i've seen among pros, others include priest and markus.

also, jay doesnt have the hard look that dorian had and to a lesser extent ronnie had.

i think that has something to with max poundages, whehter it be with low reps like dorian or higher reps like ronnie. 

[the shadow]

jay trains hard, but i think a tad less than yates and ronnie. 

he doesnt go all out with the weight (even for 8-10 reps), so how can you say he trains as hard?

his form is nowhere near yates' form. 

yates has the best form i've seen among pros, others include priest and markus.

also, jay doesnt have the hard look that dorian had and to a lesser extent ronnie had.

i think that has something to with max poundages, whehter it be with low reps like dorian or higher reps like ronnie. 

jay uses moderated poundages with maximum instensity..mind you he is a high volume trainer

[IceCold]

jay uses moderated poundages with maximum instensity..mind you he is a high volume trainer

moderated poundages seems contradictory to maximum intensity.

how can it be maximum intensity/effort if the weight isnt the max - the max for 10 reps.

i would say jay uses moderate poundages and high intensity.

i dont want to make it seem that jay doesnt train hard - he certainly does.  he says he doesnt rest too long between sets with high volume and heavy weights is hard to do.

[the shadow]

moderated poundages seems contradictory to maximum intensity.

how can it be maximum intensity/effort if the weight isnt the max - the max for 10 reps.

i would say jay uses moderate poundages and high intensity.

i dont want to make it seem that jay doesnt train hard - he certainly does.  he says he doesnt rest too long between sets with high volume and heavy weights is hard to do.

lol jay never said that heavy weights are hard to do..jay can always lift really heavy weights..he fears that he would get injured..look what happened to ronnie coleman..torn from every place

[natural al]

lol jay never said that heavy weights are hard to do..jay can always lift really heavy weights..he fears that he would get injured..look what happened to ronnie coleman..torn from every place

well ronnie is also alot older than jay.  I think you have to be superhuman to train like ronnie for as long as he did and not get hurt, it's like he was a freak of nature or something.  I don't think anybody could really keep up with him if he trained the way it's described on his vids and in the mags.

[Jr. Yates]

well ronnie is also alot older than jay.  I think you have to be superhuman to train like ronnie for as long as he did and not get hurt, it's like he was a freak of nature or something.  I don't think anybody could really keep up with him if he trained the way it's described on his vids and in the mags.

I would never train like ronnie, even if it did get gains quicker. I like how Lee trains, his form is always perfect and after all these years hes had no serious injury and when you see him you can just tell his physique has great quality.

[natural al]

I would never train like ronnie, even if it did get gains quicker. I like how Lee trains, his form is always perfect and after all these years hes had no serious injury and when you see him you can just tell his physique has great quality.

most guys can't train like ronnie, it's really not even an option for the average guy...you'd kill yourself.  The guy is a mutant.