Raising the Bar 2 - Advance clip

[eastcoastbbman]

This guy needs someone to show him CORRECT FORM to lift weights!!!  What the hell?

lol!!! no one needs to SHOW me anything, bro. this year is my 30th year in the gym. i have won 2 state overalls, 2 east coast overalls and 3 national titles. google me. please. lol! if you really think i should, ill hire a personal trainer and have him write me up one of those little yellow cards and start all over again!

[gatomjp]

look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.

look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!

so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"

now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!

I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.

Dave Pulcinella Row-downs!! That's funny! Y'all should be taking notes instead of sniping. You'll see all the wannabes doing this exact movement next week.

[Pollux]

look. i have modified my form on most movements over the years to suit me. i go by feel and how damned sore i get in the target muscle the next 2 days. plain and simple.

look at that still shot for a moment, please. isnt that the same exact anatomical position as a seated row? arent seated rows for back?? yes!

so, lets not call what i am doing "pulldowns", cause theyre not! theyre clearly not pulldowns. lets call them "ROW-DOWNS" ..they are "dave row-downs"

now...look again at that still shot, and you will see i am doing perfect "textbook form on ROW-DOWNS!!

I HOPE THIS MAKES EVERYONE HAPPY.

That's what I'm sayin', playa. If that shit works for ya, keep it up.

[GroinkTropin]

Dude, if you're going to market some kind of training video, at least use DECENT form. The pulldowns and laterals are what I'd expect a 15 year old noob to be doing, and I was significantly stronger when I was 19 friggin years old! Natural! I guess I can't bitch too much about the light weights/over emphasis on machine work, but damn at least use some proper form.

[GroinkTropin]

Dave Pulcinella Row-downs!! That's funny! Y'all should be taking notes instead of sniping. You'll see all the wannabes doing this exact movement next week.

Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.

[gatomjp]

Dude, if you're going to market some kind of training video, at least use DECENT form. The pulldowns and laterals are what I'd expect a 15 year old noob to be doing, and I was significantly stronger when I was 19 friggin years old! Natural! I guess I can't bitch too much about the light weights/over emphasis on machine work, but damn at least use some proper form.

My comment you quoted was a joke. If you had read through the thread before you posted you would have seen that I have emphatically stated that this is NOT a training video. It is a documentary about a particular person who works in a particular way. We are not suggesting that you do ANYTHING the way Dave does...unless you'd like to win something.

[GroinkTropin]

My comment you quoted was a joke. If you had read through the thread before you posted you would have seen that I have emphatically stated that this is NOT a training video. It is a documentary about a particular person who works in a particular way. We are not suggesting that you do ANYTHING the way Dave does...unless you'd like to win something.

So it's like a comraderie film then? Interesting. Your form sucks, whether you get good results from it or not, but whatever I hope you make some scratch, lord knows most bbers make zippo despite their best efforts.

[gatomjp]

So it's like a comraderie film then? Interesting. Your form sucks, whether you get good results from it or not, but whatever I hope you make some scratch, lord knows most bbers make zippo despite their best efforts.

What's a comraderie film? It's a documentary.

[eastcoastbbman]

Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.

 methyl mike, this is dave pulcinella. i , too was well schooled on anatomy, physiology,  biomechanics. believe it or not, i have degrees in these subjects and teach them for a living!!! thats right! lol!! i was shown how to do "proper form" back in the 70's bro. im well aware of "scapular retraction, upper body at a 45 degree angle etc etc so on...i CHOOSE to do my pulldowns this way...why? because it goddam works. every advanced trainer ive ever shown how to do these "row-downs" has been unable to lift his arms over his head for almost a week afterwards due to soreness.

by the way,since you have taken the time to advise me... let me give YOU some advice. heres the advice: its ok to think outside the box every once in a while. sometimes you must reinvent the wheel to get beyond your current plane...i know proper form inside and out, ive done it for years. what i do now..... wayyyyyyyy better!!

[Mr. Michael Moore]

Did you say taking notes? Good lord man, MONSTER DELUSIONS. Before you start griping, I was taught more or less perfect form by my best friend who is a physical therapy assistant, and TRUST me your form is terrible. Forced reps on leg extensions?! Followed by SMITH MACHINE squats? Have you and your knees always hated each other, or what? I hate to knock a brother, but you put a video out there, expect some criticism.

I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats.  Although I agree his form is not the best, to say the least - hey! the guy himself admmited that, but if it works for him and he's injury free, more power to him - I can't say what's wrong with these 2 exercises. Forced reps on leg extensions works wonders, they are truly friers on the thighs.
Re smith squats, EVERY bodybuilder on earth regularly does it / does it from time to time. That's nothing wrong with that exercise. Although I prefer free squats, smith machine squats give a nice change of pace with a lot of muscle stimmulation. Even Ronnie Coleman does it from time to time - whatch that DVD he filmed with Tony Doherty following the '05 O, in Australia.

[gatomjp]

I think that as soon as you decide that there is only ONE way to do ANYTHING you have limited what you can achieve. Experimentation and adaptation are the key to success in anything you do. Bodybuilding is about pushing the body to its limits, not about playing it safe.

[gatomjp]

I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats. 

Nothing at all, but what Methyl Mike didn't understand was that what he was seeing was a montage of many workouts with many different workout partners. It was not a continuous series of exercises nor was it meant to imply a recommendation for a workout. Either he didn't watch the whole clip or because so many bb vids have so little editing in them it threw Mike off to see one that compressed several workouts into 4 minutes.

[michael arvilla]

lol!!! no one needs to SHOW me anything, bro. this year is my 30th year in the gym. i have won 2 state overalls, 2 east coast overalls and 3 national titles. google me. please. lol! if you really think i should, ill hire a personal trainer and have him write me up one of those little yellow cards and start all over again!

Dave I'm comming down there to teach you "proper form"

ill only charge you $100.00 per hr

[eastcoastbbman]

I 'd love to hear from you what the fook is wrong with leg extension with some forced reps, then going to smith machine squats.  Although I agree his form is not the best, to say the least - hey! the guy himself admmited that, but if it works for him and he's injury free, more power to him - I can't say what's wrong with these 2 exercises. Forced reps on leg extensions works wonders, they are truly friers on the thighs.
Re smith squats, EVERY bodybuilder on earth regularly does it / does it from time to time. That's nothing wrong with that exercise. Although I prefer free squats, smith machine squats give a nice change of pace with a lot of muscle stimmulation. Even Ronnie Coleman does it from time to time - whatch that DVD he filmed with Tony Doherty following the '05 O, in Australia.

yep. i was thinking that too. what the hell is so wrong about pre-exhausting with extensions, then going to smith squats!!!?? lol!! i guess it doesnt jive with the little rule book he has in his head.

[eastcoastbbman]

Dave I'm comming down there to teach you "proper form"

ill only charge you $100.00 per hr

ILL PAY 200!!!!!!! YOU FREAK!!!

[eastcoastbbman]

OK, I HAVE SEEN THE ERRORS OF MY WAYS. I KNOW NOW THAT I WILL NEVER DEVELOP A BIG BACK USING THESE "IMPROPER" TECHNIQUES. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT WILL EVER GET. IM GONNA GO SUCK CAR FUMES...

[michael arvilla]

OK, I HAVE SEEN THE ERRORS OF MY WAYS. I KNOW NOW THAT I WILL NEVER DEVELOP A BIG BACK USING THESE "IMPROPER" TECHNIQUES. THIS IS AS GOOD AS IT WILL EVER GET. IM GONNA GO SUCK CAR FUMES...

you could play handball or show a movie on that freaking back!!

[natural al]

And you don't ever feel like you could use one from time to time? To help motivate you and help force out extra reps?

I understand what you're saying...it honestly doesn't enter my mind, I do what I do and have learned to do it without a partner.  Would one help me?  Probably.  You never know.  I wouldn't even want the headache of trying to find one so I really do hear what your saying....

[Mr. Michael Moore]

yep. i was thinking that too. what the hell is so wrong about pre-exhausting with extensions, then going to smith squats!!!?? lol!! i guess it doesnt jive with the little rule book he has in his head.

Hey, Dave! I just wanted to give you a shout out and congratulate you for the AWESOME work ethic you put in. Awesome physique, coupled with the right attitude to go with. I wish some IFBB pros could get some pointers from you re commitment and dedication (Hi C. Cormier, a.k.a. Rainbow  ) .

To your detractors, I say F U C K  them!!! Keep up the outstanding work. You sir, give bodybuilding a VERY GOOD name!!

[eastcoastbbman]

Hey, Dave! I just wanted to give you a shout out and congratulate you for the AWESOME work ethic you put in. Awesome physique, coupled with the right attitude to go with. I wish some IFBB pros could get some pointers from you re commitment and dedication (Hi C. Cormier, a.k.a. Rainbow  ) .

To your detractors, I say F U C K  them!!! Keep up the outstanding work. You sir, give bodybuilding a VERY GOOD name!!

hey, mike. thanks for the props!! a shred of positive energy in a sea of negativity!! lol! ive been at this an awful long time ( 30 years this year) and i still go into the gym each day with the same enthusiasm as i did in 1977 when i picked up my first barbell in my dads basement....back then i used textbook form....lol!

hope you decide to check out "raising the bar 2" when my brother gets done the editing process and puts it out there. should be soon.

thanks again...that post meant alot to me.

www.davepulcinella.com.

[The Squadfather]

hey Dave, you do train like a little bitch but you seem like a good dude.

[eastcoastbbman]

Just a few points from both sides:

Yes, Dave's form is the shits.  Pretty well every pro trains with some level of bad form, but those modified row-pulldowns are up there with Bertil Fox's dumbbell curls lol!  However, Dave is a bodybuilder so other than what he looks like on contest day the rest doesn't matter.  My concern would be injuries, but he is probably like Bertil in that he has joints of steel and is able to train like this.  My next concern would be productivity.  Would he grow more with better form?  Perhaps, but after 30 years of training I seem to think he has things figured out.  Was the DVD supposed to be a training DVD or a documentary?  If it was supposed to be a documentary like the first one, the form doesn't matter since it's simply supposed to recount Dave's training.  If it's being marketed as a training DVD, then better form would be more appropriate.

As for the DVD, this is exactly the type of thing bodybuilding needs and the same can be said of the Raising the Bar I.  I was excited to see a DVD come out that wasn't another training or contest DVD like 99% of them.  This was refreshing and something severely lacking in the bodybuilding world.  I'm not the only one who has these sentiments.  My review of the first DVD is here:

http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/raisingthebardvdreview.html

If part II is as good as part I, I recommend for everyone to get it.  I would also like a review copy of the DVD, and I would like to pay $0. 

Thanks. 

matt!!! you da man!! my brother will be happy to hear you say all of the things you did.. rtb2 is a documentary just like the first one was. nothing on there is meant to be for instructional purposes, god forbid. i would never suggest a beginner or intermediate guy train the way i do. they would kill themselves. you must start with proper form until youre able to isolate the muslces youre trying to hit. i reached that point in the early 80's! lol!

anyway, thanks again for the props....!

[eastcoastbbman]

hey Dave, you do train like a little bitch but you seem like a good dude.

i am. im a good little bitch...lol! word.

[eastcoastbbman]

Nice!  Can't wait to get it.  Do you still see Victor often? 

If you win the Masters North American Championships, will you get your pro card?  Also, how long do you plan to compete?

Here are the pics of you posted in the summer:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=82833.0
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i see victor every time i train. he works at the golds where i train ( now called "total fitness") we will hit it together sometimes if he can catch a break from work and were on the same bodypart. happens maybe twice a month.

matt, ive wom the heavies at the north americans two years in a row now. im really focusing all my energies on that overall and pro card this year. it will be the only show i do this year.

ha! those pics were taken 5 weeks out of the masters nationals, the show that is the focal point of raising the bar 2.

[ribonucleic]

Hmm... stiffen the arms and torso and then lean back against the resistance... Well, I prefer reverse crunches for working the lower-abs - but to each his own.