What is teh best street fighting system?

[Debussey]

Krav Maga?

[Bluto]

boxing

[Option D]

now a days..teh 9mm

but in fair street fighting it would be kickboxing. Because of teh use of all limbs in a lethal manor

[dootle]

Muay Thai would be most effective..

[BigNBloated]

Boxing, wrestling, muay thai, not to be on MMA systems nuts, but unless you go to straight up eye gouging and nutsac smashing, those are the most effective relatively non lethal means of street fighting. There are always more effective ways of taking someone out but they involve removing eyes and collapsing throats.

[ATHEIST]

Boxing, wrestling, muay thai, not to be on MMA systems nuts, but unless you go to straight up eye gouging and nutsac smashing, those are the most effective relatively non lethal means of street fighting. There are always more effective ways of taking someone out but they involve removing eyes and collapsing throats.

  so true and well put. so many MMA guys think they're stuff and they may very well be if they were fighting in a ring. but street fighting is different. if im in danger i wont hesitate to go for the eyes or the throat. dont care how tough you are if i jam my finger through your eye most likely youre done. and most fights invlove more than one person. if my friend is getting worked im not going to stand on the side and give him tips, im grabbing a chair or whatever solid object i can find and smashing it on the guys head.

[Bluto]

hard enough hitting someone as it is i wouldnt be able to aim for the eye

[AVBG]

"double dragon" 

[Fury]

Some nice thai elbows can be very effective.

[ATHEIST]

Some nice thai elbows can be very effective.

 
  im sure it could. but i dont want to find out. i'll take your word for it. if most professional fighters cant take them, then....im screwed.

[BigNBloated]

The thing about the eye gouge is it typically happens in a clinch type situation. Its not an eye strike like a punch or an elbow, no one squares up with someone and tries to poke them in the eye.Rarely do you see many guys in the streets square up and exhange blows, there is usually some sort of tussel and the guys lock up. Yes thai elbows can devistate you. I caught one to the nose and it ended my night very quickly.

[Fury]

The thing about the eye gouge is it typically happens in a clinch type situation. Its not an eye strike like a punch or an elbow, no one squares up with someone and tries to poke them in the eye.Rarely do you see many guys in the streets square up and exhange blows, there is usually some sort of tussel and the guys lock up. Yes thai elbows can devistate you. I caught one to the nose and it ended my night very quickly.

Unless your name is Chuck Liddell!!!!!!!

[BigNBloated]

Unless your name is Chuck Liddell!!!!!!!

Very good point. The man has poinpoint precision when it comes to the over hand eye gouge. Devistated couture with it, ortiz, and vernon "tiger" white. Probably some others, his thumb has more kills than any other thumb on the planet.

[rico28]

thai boxing.

[*ChuteBoxe*]

Definately Boxing or Muay Thai.  Nine times out of ten you would be fighting people(s) who are untrained,intoxicated, or both.  With factors like those all you would have to do is dodge a wild haymaker or two and then let 'em fly.  Ive heard of boxers taking out 2 or 3 people at the same time.  Supposedly, Carlos Newton got jumped by five guys at a night club a few years back and knocked out three of them and the other two ran away, and that's because he's not even that good of a striker. 

[rccs]

  so true and well put. so many MMA guys think they're stuff and they may very well be if they were fighting in a ring. but street fighting is different. if im in danger i wont hesitate to go for the eyes or the throat. dont care how tough you are if i jam my finger through your eye most likely youre done. and most fights invlove more than one person. if my friend is getting worked im not going to stand on the side and give him tips, im grabbing a chair or whatever solid object i can find and smashing it on the guys head.

Like I have been saying here, a crazy outofcontrol strong dude can do a lot of damage. I said it here tens of times, the street is not a ring!

[Petrucci]

i saw many street fights and usually its difficult for someone who have some 'knowlegde' of boxing for example, create distance and oportunity for punches. Usually its like 30 seconds of crazy punches and someone ends up clinching (sp?) the other. Thats why here Jiu Jitsu guys are hell when you are in a street fight because they KNOW usually the guys will get too much close and its only take to the ground and finish it...
just a observation

[Bigger Business]

I prefer to communicate in a soothing manor and avoid unnecessary violence

[Scimowser]

this thread again? OK, without a doubt its Muay Thai unless youre an excellent boxer. An average Muay Thai guy would wipe his arse IMO with the friday night piss head that usually squares up to you to impress his mates. Kicks, elbows, punches and knees are at your controlled disposal, by this i mean that you arent just wildly swinging away. You know what to do with them when it matters.

[BigNBloated]

I think jui jitsu is awful for street fighting. The ground is a dangerous place to be on the streets. In a fight against multiple people its not even an option and you have the additional trouble of trying to close the distance on someone throwing haymakers at you so you can put them to the ground. Throws would be your best bet from a GI sport like judo or something. Beyond that who wants to double leg someone to the pavement and roll trying to hit submissions. Not this guy, lol.

[xpac2]

Going to the ground in a street fight is suicide. Not only do you have pavement and broken glass to deal with but it's also easier for the guys friends to stomp on your head while your roll around.

[Nathan]

At the same time most street fights I've been in, I've been swarmed by more than 1 person. So going on the ground isn't much of an option in those situations. This is why you should be versed in more than 1 style IMO.
For street fighting just use all the moves that are illegally in the ring. Also study the best fighters and practice all the tricky little moves that no one sees commin like GSP's strafing shin kick etc.. Also the physicality of the fighter makes a huge difference! I can't count how many fights I've won just for being stronger,faster, and having good cardio. It basically all boils down to who can hit the hardest the fastest with the most accuracy and of course knowing how to leave your self less open. Boxing is veary good but low kicks to the knees nuts ankles etc also work wonders when combined with solid boxing skills. as far as the ground go's, learn how not to go there when u don't want to and get back up off the ground fast if some one puts you there. BJJ is for 1 vs 1 fights but how do tou every really know if your fighting more than 1 person? more can show up and you don't want to be locked up on the ground if that happens.

[rccs]

At the same time most street fights I've been in, I've been swarmed by more than 1 person. So going on the ground isn't much of an option in those situations. This is why you should be versed in more than 1 style IMO.
For street fighting just use all the moves that are illegally in the ring. Also study the best fighters and practice all the tricky little moves that no one sees commin like GSP's strafing shin kick etc.. Also the physicality of the fighter makes a huge difference! I can't count how many fights I've won just for being stronger,faster, and having good cardio. It basically all boils down to who can hit the hardest the fastest with the most accuracy and of course knowing how to leave your self less open. Boxing is veary good but low kicks to the knees nuts ankles etc also work wonders when combined with solid boxing skills. as far as the ground go's, learn how not to go there when u don't want to and get back up off the ground fast if some one puts you there. BJJ is for 1 vs 1 fights but how do tou every really know if your fighting more than 1 person? more can show up and you don't want to be locked up on the ground if that happens.

Good post!!! Physicality is extremely important!!

[americanbulldog]

  so true and well put. so many MMA guys think they're stuff and they may very well be if they were fighting in a ring. but street fighting is different. if im in danger i wont hesitate to go for the eyes or the throat. dont care how tough you are if i jam my finger through your eye most likely youre done. and most fights invlove more than one person. if my friend is getting worked im not going to stand on the side and give him tips, im grabbing a chair or whatever solid object i can find and smashing it on the guys head.

Ah, the TMA "my stuff is so lethal it is only used in the street" analogy.  If you can effectively deliver an inside kick, couldn't you bring it up slightly and hit the groin.  If you can deliver a jab, cross effectively, couldn't you extend your fingers and hit the eyes.  The TMA artist does not practice realistically against an aggressive, skilled opponent WHO RESISTS.  If you can clinch effectively, you can eye gouge, headbutt, knee, elbow.  Be realistic and train that way hard!  And to answer the original question, no system has all the answers, train all ranges, as well as weapons, and ballistic weapons.  Being athletic helps lots! 

[ATHEIST]

Ah, the TMA "my stuff is so lethal it is only used in the street" analogy.  If you can effectively deliver an inside kick, couldn't you bring it up slightly and hit the groin.  If you can deliver a jab, cross effectively, couldn't you extend your fingers and hit the eyes.  The TMA artist does not practice realistically against an aggressive, skilled opponent WHO RESISTS.  If you can clinch effectively, you can eye gouge, headbutt, knee, elbow.  Be realistic and train that way hard!  And to answer the original question, no system has all the answers, train all ranges, as well as weapons, and ballistic weapons.  Being athletic helps lots! 

  Believe me im no TMA or MMA for that matter. i believe people get into fights when they are not intelligent enough to talk things out and they run out of things to say. that being said if i am in a fight i would want to get out of the situation as soon as possible. i guess you could deliver a kick to the groing but IMO doing that youve absolutely just commited yourself to the fight. same with the jab w/ the extended finger to the eye. i would never commit myself to a fight first. i could think of fifty things i would try to do first. even if i were hit first, if i felt my life wasnt in danger i wouldnt strike back probably.
 and say you could effectively clinch someone in a fight, deliver elbows, knees, head butts what are you going to do to the guys freinds or by standards who are about to cruch your skull with the trash can? ive never been in the situatution before and would never want to.
 and whats with the TMA reference, i had to think about what that stood for for a couple of seconds, i never mentioned it? that would be just as useless i think.