Author Topic: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?  (Read 32226 times)

ManBearPig...

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 12280
  • Professional Fighter
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2007, 05:24:54 PM »
I take them because it pisses bitches like you off.
Deep Tissue Massage

Devon97

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4132
  • Keith lives on...
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2007, 06:26:01 PM »
It helps them achieve their physique goals faster and usually gives them a better self esteem, although I don't think one should base their self worth on how they look. 

I agree!! Isnt it sad though that some people base their self value on how much they bench or how much they weigh?

benjamin pearson

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2437
  • Dan18 has a huge forehead
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #77 on: February 19, 2007, 06:54:02 PM »
I agree!! Isnt it sad though that some people base their self value on how much they bench or how much they weigh?

If you dont care at all about working out why are you on this site?

Knives

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 833
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #78 on: February 19, 2007, 06:59:43 PM »
How do you know what gear will do for a professional BBall player?
Have you coached a Professional athlete before? Have you yourself ever played professional basketball or any sport for that matter? How do you know if " a little gear could be what he needs"? You have ZERO , NONE, NADA experience coaching training or spending time around professional athletes, therefore you have NO IDEA what they do or dont do or take or dont take.
I have trained  and coached several current NFL & NBA players and at the time I trained them NONE of them took gear and gear would have NOT been " what he needs" to put them over the edge.
Yo dawg! Spike Lee would give Spreewell some Anavar to improve his 3-point shot  ... LOL

Well steroids are obviously not going to help anyone from a technical standpoint, but last time I checked, in BBall you need to jump high, and make quick bursts across the court.  Not to mention they could help make one more aggressive, which is important in that sport.

If you don't think any NFL players are on steroids, you are sadly mistaken.  Do you think that those linebackers who are running around at 6 foot 240+ lbs with shredded abs are all natural?  I'll admit there are a few genetic freaks out there, but there's no way all of them are natural.  Patrick Arnold, the scientist who created steroids used in the BALCO scandal, said himself in Sports Illustrated that many of the players in the NFL do a cycle of steroids in the offseason, when testing is lax, and then use GH during the season to maintain their gains.  Lastly, in a sport as active as football, it is very hard to put on mass while you are burning so many calories running around 3+ hours 5 or more days a week.  You do realize that bodybuilders need to eat and sleep much more than the average person just to put on muscle, yet those NFL players look as good as any natural bodybuilder, if not better, all the while spending so much time practicing football.  Sounds fishy to me...

Also, why the hell would Spike Lee be providing a pro athlete with steroids???!!! Last time I checked he was a f*cking movie director!

gh15

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16991
  • angels
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #79 on: February 19, 2007, 07:27:22 PM »
I could see if someone really enjoyed BBing and liked to compete as a hobby and needed gear to compete on a local stage or if someone had to get in top condition for a paid shoot, but why do local gym idiots with 15%+ Bodyfat and average muscle take AAS? WHat are they trying to acomplish? DO they think they will gain 'Alpha Male " status with an additional 20 lbs of watery muscle? DO they think a 350lb benchpress will have every stripper in town trying to hook up with them? I talked to a guy a few years ago at my gym who was setting up this 15 week cycle with 5 diff compounds in it. I asked him what show he was getting ready for and he said he didnt compete, I then asked him if he must be getting ready for a paid photo shoot .. " No" he replied.
Why do guys who dont compete take AAS?


do me a favour my friend and dont ruin 50% of the market,,
thank you in advance ;)

seriously now,,and ill say it once,,

lifters go on hormones to break a platue,,naturally it would take them 2 years or never while on hormones it would take them couple months,,some cant get over 175lb naturally while in phenominal condition,,,some can,,,it has a lot to do with what god gave you,,


while on hormones you can allow yourself alot more mistakes then you think,,,you can do a lot of things that naturally would burn you out and slow your gains to a point of zero gains what so ever,,

it is a very bad mistake to think that gains out of hormones stop at 20lb,,it all depends on how serious you are when it comes to bodybuilding and how much you live it,,

gains from hormones can be as high as 100lb of pure lean muscle mass,,ofcourse it takes years,,

the average joe that sits at 180lb with 16-18% bodyfat after going on hormones will increase his size up to 220-230lb with 16-18% bodyfat if done correctly and then will be able to go back to that 180lb he used to have before but this time at 6% bodyfat,, and girls like it and most of the time see it as natural blessed genetics,,those people do it for looks,,same as plastic surgeries etc etc

and there is   A HUGE DIFF between 165lb 6% and 180lb 6% when the lifters are same height,,,HUGE DIFF

even 5lb!! of lean muscle mass is a huge huge huge diff on a ripped physiqe



fallen angel

warrior_code

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 593
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2007, 07:34:28 PM »
I agree!! Isnt it sad though that some people base their self value on how much they bench or how much they weigh?

How you look does show alot about who you are, but it shouldn't be a end all to yourself.  At least that is what I think.

Richard2004

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
  • REAL explosive strength!
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2007, 09:11:01 PM »
I could see if someone really enjoyed BBing and liked to compete as a hobby and needed gear to compete on a local stage or if someone had to get in top condition for a paid shoot, but why do local gym idiots with 15%+ Bodyfat and average muscle take AAS? WHat are they trying to acomplish? DO they think they will gain 'Alpha Male " status with an additional 20 lbs of watery muscle? DO they think a 350lb benchpress will have every stripper in town trying to hook up with them? I talked to a guy a few years ago at my gym who was setting up this 15 week cycle with 5 diff compounds in it. I asked him what show he was getting ready for and he said he didnt compete, I then asked him if he must be getting ready for a paid photo shoot .. " No" he replied.
Why do guys who dont compete take AAS?

My God, you mean we actually have people with intelligence, reason, logic, and common sense, posting on Getbig!??? 

Mods, we can't have that...ban this poster immediately!!!

Why??!!!  Because THESE STRICTLY RECREATIONAL BBers are INSECURE, WANT "INSTANT GRATIFICATION", are LAZY, and are NOT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK!!!

gordiano

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17124
  • TEAM "CUTE PENIS", TEAM TRIFLIN' RONNIE COLEMAN
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #82 on: February 19, 2007, 09:16:22 PM »
My God, you mean we actually have people with intelligence, reason, logic, and common sense, posting on Getbig!??? 

Mods, we can't have that...ban this poster immediately!!!

Why??!!!  Because THESE STRICTLY RECREATIONAL BBers are INSECURE, WANT "INSTANT GRATIFICATION", are LAZY, and are NOT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK!!!

JEEEEEEESUS.....is there ever a post where you don't meltdown?
HAHA, RON.....

TheEgoCrusher

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 759
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #83 on: February 19, 2007, 09:19:22 PM »
Why do guys who dont compete take AAS?

Because they are DUMB FUCKS

Richard2004

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
  • REAL explosive strength!
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #84 on: February 19, 2007, 09:28:46 PM »
JEEEEEEESUS.....is there ever a post where you don't meltdown?

Oh, I get it now...merely taking an unpopular stand on some subject is called a "meltdown" on Getbig?!   

Just like just being a fan of FBB makes you a "schmoe"!

gordiano

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17124
  • TEAM "CUTE PENIS", TEAM TRIFLIN' RONNIE COLEMAN
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #85 on: February 19, 2007, 09:30:20 PM »
Oh, I get it now...merely taking an unpopular stand on some subject is called a "meltdown" on Getbig?!   

Just like just being a fan of FBB makes you a "schmoe"!

Actually, I agree with you on the "drugs" issue.......


But to each his own, you know?
HAHA, RON.....

Count Grishnackh

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 694
  • The easiest person to deceive is one's own self
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2007, 09:31:36 PM »
So according to your logic Richard, the best reason to cheat is to win?

Thanks for the clarity.

Rich Gainihger

  • Guest
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #87 on: February 19, 2007, 09:33:29 PM »
my question is, why compete?  brutal faggotry for plastic prize.

not why take drugs.

Earl1972

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22154
  • #EarlToo
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #88 on: February 19, 2007, 09:38:29 PM »
hey devon why do you drink on friday and saturday nights?

do you need that liquid confidence to talk to that pretty girl at the club ;)

E
E

Richard2004

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2330
  • REAL explosive strength!
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #89 on: February 19, 2007, 09:56:41 PM »
So according to your logic Richard, the best reason to cheat is to win?

Thanks for the clarity.


Count, I guess every since at least 776 BC, the approximate start of the ancient Greek Olympic games, ATHLETES have been trying to use every means possible to gain an edge over their competitors...fair of unfair!!   No, its not "morally/ethically right" to "cheat to win"...but, at least, you can understand the "logic" behind the athletes reasoning (i.e. if I think that the competitor next to me is taking BB drugs to try to gain an edge over me in physique/lifting competition, then I better be taking them too, to be playing on a level playing field).

But the insanity is, IMO, if you are an "average joe" just doing rec. BB to stay in shape and improve your appearance, etc., we all know that you can build a far above average physique over time, NATURALLY.  Why risk your PRECIOUS health and potential longevity taking BB drugs (w/o medical supervision...and who in the hell does it with "medical supervision"!??) for just adding a few extra inches in muscle size in a shorter period of time!??  

I mean, I would rather have my 17.5 - 18.5 in. arms, built naturally, and live a long, healthy, life like say Jack Lalanne (into my 90's) and weigh 190-200 lbs., rather than use BB drugs, bloat up to 260-280 lbs., build 23-in. arms, and run the very real risk of associated poor health and being dead at 45-55 yrs. of age!


 

Captain Equipoise

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 12927
  • back from the dead...
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #90 on: February 19, 2007, 11:41:15 PM »
To each their own.. some people care more about physical appearance then others, I don't want to wait till I'm 40 to have the body I want. Using gear pushes you past plateaus like GH15 said, also for those that have never done it, don't slam it.. you don't understand the kind of pump and well being that gear gives you. It's not about being insecure or not confident enough, it's about wanting more and getting it, some people are happy with their natural 190lb bodies @ 15% bf.. others want to push the envelope and get to a lean 250 :)  who cares if you compete or not? you should be working out/bodybuilding for yourself and your own goals. Not for the adoration of those that can't achieve these goals and physiques themselves.

On a final note, this is exactly like women getting plastic surgery, botox, colagen, restilyn, etc. Some people want perfection and they will go to the ends of the earth to get it, how many women with implants/colagen do you see that are porn stars or models??.. 'nuff said.

TheEgoCrusher

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 759
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #91 on: February 20, 2007, 12:11:40 AM »
Even the guys that take drugs to try to make a LIVING are dumbasses, IMO.

Why in the hell would you CHOOSE a vocation which REQUIRES you to BREAK THE LAW to be successful at it?  You might as well be a mob hit-man or a damn bank-robber.  It pays a hell of a lot better.

Guys that try to make a living off of bodybuilding (or that even do local shows) are in it for EGO.  PERIOD.  Some lying scleps will throw "gloryfying God" out there like Gay for Pay Dugdale when they know it's all a HUGE LIE.  It's ALL to boost their own ego and satisfy their huge craving for exposure.  These guys that ride the "God" reason for competing/bodybuilding crack me up. 

Newsflash:  It's all about YOU!  I don't see guys like Dugdale out telling people to live the lifestyle he does.  You know why?  Because he would have to say, "Well, do as I say, not as I do...".  What a crock of shit.  Dugdale has top-level amatuer disciples of his who play the "God-card" as well when talking about why they compete.  Yeah, I'm sure Jesus injected 1,000 mg. of test right before he distributed fish and bread in the Bible.  In fact, I bet Jesus just LOVES the thought of making up for genetic deficiencies by using drugs for purposes of VANITY.

It's all about YOU, God-Card flashers.  Don't continue to live the lie...and don't continue to allow your girl (s) to use drugs, BTW.  Looking like you're 35 when you're in your early 20's is a problem for women....

Count Grishnackh

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 694
  • The easiest person to deceive is one's own self
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #92 on: February 20, 2007, 12:33:15 AM »
I agree Richard, but competition doesn't make it right, ethical, acceptable or any less dangerous. I don't
think it's fair to seperate the two.


Count, I guess every since at least 776 BC, the approximate start of the ancient Greek Olympic games, ATHLETES have been trying to use every means possible to gain an edge over their competitors...fair of unfair!!   No, its not "morally/ethically right" to "cheat to win"...but, at least, you can understand the "logic" behind the athletes reasoning (i.e. if I think that the competitor next to me is taking BB drugs to try to gain an edge over me in physique/lifting competition, then I better be taking them too, to be playing on a level playing field).

But the insanity is, IMO, if you are an "average joe" just doing rec. BB to stay in shape and improve your appearance, etc., we all know that you can build a far above average physique over time, NATURALLY.  Why risk your PRECIOUS health and potential longevity taking BB drugs (w/o medical supervision...and who in the hell does it with "medical supervision"!??) for just adding a few extra inches in muscle size in a shorter period of time!??  

I mean, I would rather have my 17.5 - 18.5 in. arms, built naturally, and live a long, healthy, life like say Jack Lalanne (into my 90's) and weigh 190-200 lbs., rather than use BB drugs, bloat up to 260-280 lbs., build 23-in. arms, and run the very real risk of associated poor health and being dead at 45-55 yrs. of age!


 

gtbro1

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6893
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #93 on: February 20, 2007, 12:53:00 AM »
  Because they make  you feel like KING FU**ING KONG.

 

nycbull

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5763
  • Team Jay Should Have Won
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #94 on: February 20, 2007, 07:07:45 AM »
Lifting on gear is actually healthier than doing it Naturally. If one decides he wants to be  40 lbs heavier he will be much safer doing it with steroids. To make the same gains naturally as you would on gear, would take a lot more pounding and wear and tear on your joints. It will cost more in time and injuries. Gear helps prevent injuries, saves time and helps your muscles and everything else heal quicker and more efficiently. You accomplish your goals in a shorter time and save your joints and tendons.

Now keeping it on is another story and thats where science will help us hopefully someday soon. See myostatin thread.

gtbro1

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6893
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #95 on: February 20, 2007, 07:32:55 AM »
Lifting on gear is actually healthier than doing it Naturally. If one decides he wants to be  40 lbs heavier he will be much safer doing it with steroids. To make the same gains naturally as you would on gear, would take a lot more pounding and wear and tear on your joints. It will cost more in time and injuries. Gear helps prevent injuries, saves time and helps your muscles and everything else heal quicker and more efficiently. You accomplish your goals in a shorter time and save your joints and tendons.

Now keeping it on is another story and thats where science will help us hopefully someday soon. See myostatin thread.

  LMAO

BayGBM

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 19683
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2007, 07:35:59 AM »
Vanity  :-\

Old_Rooster

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2380
  • SquadFathers mom gave me a BJ
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #97 on: February 20, 2007, 07:36:16 AM »
OK but none of you guys have given me a concrete reason.
  

Why have the health risk and risk the legal issues if you have nothing to gain from it? I mean its not like you really gain anything from competing in a bbing show....but you get the picture






Because the media has built up all this scare about steroids will kill you shit.  Hell they have pretty much begun saying that testosterone is the fountain of youth.  You just keep benching 135 and cursing the big boys...
Benjamin Pearson-Pedo

The Squadfather

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 25840
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #98 on: February 20, 2007, 07:37:26 AM »
Because the media has built up all this scare about steroids will kill you shit.  Hell they have pretty much begun saying that testosterone is the fountain of youth.  You just keep benching 135 and cursing the big boys...
hahahahaha, this coming from a guy who admits that he only benches 225 for sets of 5, on GH, roids and insulin. ::)

nycbull

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5763
  • Team Jay Should Have Won
Re: Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?
« Reply #99 on: February 20, 2007, 07:55:59 AM »
Maybe the question should be why would anyone want to bodybuild without gear? Isn't it more dangerous to your body to lift huge weights day in and day out without the medical benefits of gear. WHy risk joint damage permanent tendinitous, nerve damage, and crushed disks and future arthritis. Maybe gear will prevent all those things for you. Discuss