Why do guys who DONT compete take AAS?

[Devon97]

Even the guys that take drugs to try to make a LIVING are dumbasses, IMO.

Why in the hell would you CHOOSE a vocation which REQUIRES you to BREAK THE LAW to be successful at it?  You might as well be a mob hit-man or a damn bank-robber.  It pays a hell of a lot better.

On point..! Aint that the TRUTH!   Just think EGO, there ar eguys who BREAK THE LAW with no profit at all! How dumb is that!

[gordiano]

Fixed.

HAHA!

Where the hell have ya been, Matt?

[Devon97]

I think once you take gear for a few years then stay clean for 2+ years but eat/train/rest smarter you begin to see that you could have been almost as lean/muscular had u by-passed the gear.
I know SQUADFATHER mentioned this in another thread, how once he was clean for 3 years he re-gained natty close to what he acomplished back when he was on gear.... and he did it this time with out negative sides or committing a felony.

[The Squadfather]

I think once you take gear for a few years then stay clean for 2+ years but eat/train/rest smarter you begin to see that you could have been almost as lean/muscular had u by-passed the gear.
I know SQUADFATHER mentioned this in another thread, how once he was clean for 3 years he re-gained natty close to what he acomplished back when he was on gear.... and he did it this time with out negative sides or committing a felony.

honestly that's the biggest thing for me, i would just rather avoid all the drama that goes along with buying and using gear, the money, the hassles, the worrying, the needles, etc.

[Devon97]

honestly that's the biggest thing for me, i would just rather avoid all the drama that goes along with buying and using gear, the money, the hassles, the worrying, the needles, etc.

Exactly, just think Squad, there are guys who do this for year on end for no other reason then "Because I like the way it makes me feel and chicks like it"  if thats the truth , then there is a place for you guys.. its called REHAB!

[The Squadfather]

Exactly, just think Squad, there are guys who do this for year on end for no other reason then "Because I like the way it makes me feel and chicks like it"  if thats the truth , then there is a place for you guys.. its called REHAB!

dude i used to train with a powerlifter, a middleweight, who was on FOR 24 YEARS STRAIGHT WITH NO BREAK!!!! hahahahaha, can you imagine?

[XFACTOR]

Exactly, just think Squad, there are guys who do this for year on end for no other reason then "Because I like the way it makes me feel and chicks like it"  if thats the truth , then there is a place for you guys.. its called REHAB!

  What about doing a line here and there and does that make you bad to?

[Devon97]

 What about doing a line here and there and does that make you bad to?

First of all I dont drink, smoke or do rec.drugs.  But to answer your question yes it is even WORSE to do a line since thats a schedule I narcotic( I think, it might be schedule II, depends on what is was a line of). AAS are schedule III.

[Devon97]

dude i used to train with a powerlifter, a middleweight, who was on FOR 24 YEARS STRAIGHT WITH NO BREAK!!!! hahahahaha, can you imagine?

Did he ever come off?  Was or IS he on HRT?

[Devon97]

 What about doing a line here and there and does that make you bad to?

Alcohol, Nicotene( sp?) and Rec drugs are all PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE! Often times people have to enter Rehab or AA groups or take the patch to break the habit and addicition. BUT AAS are NOT PHYSICALLY addictive, emotionally and mentally addictive perhaps but the human body does NOT have withdrawl symptoms if you dont take them , so comparing Alcohol, cigs and rec drugs to taking AAS is a VERY POOR analogy.

Keep posting your lame excuses people.

[TheEgoCrusher]

AAS is MENTALLY ADDICTIVE. 

Let someone take away the gear of someone who's juiced for YEARS, someone trying to get a pro-card, etc. and flush it down the drain in front of them.  Their reaction will be EXACTLY like that of an alcoholic, heroine addict, cocaine addict, etc.  They can't LIVE WITHOUT IT.  They can't imagine life the way they want to live it WITHOUT THEIR GEAR.  That, my friends, makes them ADDICTS. 

[Devon97]

Alcohol, Nicotene( sp?) and Rec drugs are all PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE! Often times people have to enter Rehab or AA groups or take the patch to break the habit and addicition. BUT AAS are NOT PHYSICALLY addictive, emotionally and mentally addictive perhaps but the human body does NOT have withdrawl symptoms if you dont take them , so comparing Alcohol, cigs and rec drugs to taking AAS is a VERY POOR analogy.

Keep posting your lame excuses people.

Exactly, Just like I said earlier, HOWEVER your body will NOT go into withdrawl symptoms if the AAS are removed, but I will agree that sometimes counseling is necessary to overcome that addiction. My point is that At least peeps who take Rec drugs can say they are PHYSICALLY addicted, AAS users can NOT make that claim.

[XFACTOR]

Alcohol, Nicotene( sp?) and Rec drugs are all PHYSICALLY ADDICTIVE! Often times people have to enter Rehab or AA groups or take the patch to break the habit and addicition. BUT AAS are NOT PHYSICALLY addictive, emotionally and mentally addictive perhaps but the human body does NOT have withdrawl symptoms if you dont take them , so comparing Alcohol, cigs and rec drugs to taking AAS is a VERY POOR analogy.

Keep posting your lame excuses people.

Lame excuses?  What? Do you believe in premarital sex?

[Devon97]

Lame excuses?  What? Do you believe in premarital sex?

lol nice try hoss, but premarital sex is NOT physically addictive.
Lets stick to the topic of AAS use in NON competitors please.

[XFACTOR]

lol nice try hoss, but premarital sex is NOT physically addictive.
Lets stick to the topic of AAS use in NON competitors please.

No was just curious.  I noticed god/religion had been brought up a few times in this thread, that had relevance to that.

 Why would you be so judgmental, you know what bodybuilding entails and you are on chat forum called getbig for christ sakes?

[Devon97]

No was just curious.  I noticed god/religion had been brought up a few times in this thread, that had relevance to that.

 Why would you be so judgmental, you know what bodybuilding entails and you are on chat forum called getbig for christ sakes?

Sorry Bro but I think its a stupid thing to do something that is a FELONY and brings you no material  or financial gain at all.
EgoCrusher had a excellent post at the top of tha page that will answer your question, you should read it.

[XFACTOR]

Sorry Bro but I think its a stupid thing to do something that is a FELONY and brings you no material  or financial gain at all.
EgoCrusher had a excellent post at the top of tha page that will answer your question, you should read it.

Guess I would have to disagree.  I break the law if I do a bump once in a while, or exceed the speed limit, or run a stop sign, I have gone upwards of 120 mph in my car, and I think that is a felony.  All of these things don't make me a bad person, I pay taxes, have a good job, nice home, am an active voter, and treat others in my life very well.  What is so wrong with doing a cycle?  Let's be real here, anybody who has done a cycle knows that you could never ever get that strong in that short amount of time.  It's fun and done safely is fine.

[swoody]

Why do we do it? To get you to ask questions:)  By the way... there IS legal gear out there (think superdrol clones, pheraplex clones, promagnon-25, epistane, etc...)  So the legality issue can be worked around and be completely safe from the law.  Personally, l like it because I like to feel stronger, and I had below normal test levels natty already (enough that an anti-aging clinic would prescribe me something if I wanted) simply put... it makes me feel good:)  If I loose my gains 3 or 4 years down the road staying natural, so be it... if they are not abused, have long enough stretches in between cycles (only 2 or 3 a year tops) and followed with the proper pct and support supps, people end up just fine.  So who's to say we shouldn't? BTW... if you need proof that people dont loose ALL their size down the road and are perfectly healthy with low dose moderate AAS use, look at Larry Scott.

[Captain Equipoise]

Sorry Bro but I think its a stupid thing to do something that is a FELONY and brings you no material  or financial gain at all.
EgoCrusher had a excellent post at the top of tha page that will answer your question, you should read it.

Where are you getting this felony bullshit from !?!? do you have any idea how easy it is to get a prescription for steroids from a doctor, legally ??! hell, aside from one or two other countries the states seems to be the only place where steroids are perceived as being so bad and evil (all thanks to pro sports and the money they generate). Most other countries you can walk into a pharmacy and buy steroids over the counter without a prescription.

[swoody]

There are always ways to get around the legality issue...whether it be through a prescription or the legal designers they have out... so it really ISNT an issue, is it? I can't believe how many anti-steroid threads there are on this board... do angry mothers visit here and post often?  Cause that's the only explaination I can think of with all these bullshit threads trashing anabolics... bodybuilding has ALWAYS BEEN about steroids as far back as the 1st mr. olympia.  And he's doing just fine today... looks better and is in better shape/health than 99.99 percent of the country.  If I wanted to read about the "dangers" of steroids, I'd watch the news... cause they love to sensationalize a story over NOTHING as long as it boosts ratings.  If you ask why someone who doesn't compete want to use steroids, you might as well be asking why people bodybuild at all, because you are gonna get the same answer.

[DVSGOD]

A more pressing question,why get on stage and prance around in skimpy posing trunks? 
AAS if used correctly and in libral amounts to help acheive certain training goals pose no health risk imo.
Whats wrong with topping your bodys hormone levals up so you can get a little bit more ripped or stronger?
Same with girls that get breast inhancements and even work out so they can get attention from the opposite sex and glears of envy from there own.

"You come into this world small and wrinkled ,you also leave this world small and wrinkled - how you look in between is up to you"

Or somthing like that 

[Devon97]

Where are you getting this felony bullshit from !?!? do you have any idea how easy it is to get a prescription for steroids from a doctor, legally ??! hell, aside from one or two other countries the states seems to be the only place where steroids are perceived as being so bad and evil (all thanks to pro sports and the money they generate). Most other countries you can walk into a pharmacy and buy steroids over the counter without a prescription.

If you have AAS in your POSSESSION with out a script then it is a FELONY.
C;mon even the most progressive MD isnt going to write u enough gear to do much of a meaningful cycle. A/f all What are u going to get from a MD anyway>? A 10ml vile of test and deca once every 3 months? And pay 4 x what u can get it for on the black market?

[Devon97]

Whats wrong with topping your bodys hormone levals up so you can get a little bit more ripped or stronger?
Same with girls that get breast inhancements and even work out so they can get attention from the opposite sex and glears of envy from there own.

But why do u HAVE to have AAS to get you MORE ripped and stronger? Why cant u just be ripped and stronger with OUT AAS?
> You are either too lazy to do it naturally
> OR YOu dont have enough knowledge about nutrition/strength training to do it

Which is it?

And you DONT compete or do PAID shoots, so why do u need to be MORE ripped and stronger?

[Captain Equipoise]

But why do u HAVE to have AAS to get you MORE ripped and stronger? Why cant u just be ripped and stronger with OUT AAS?
> You are either too lazy to do it naturally
> OR YOu dont have enough knowledge about nutrition/strength training to do it

Which is it?

And you DONT compete or do PAID shoots, so why do u need to be MORE ripped and stronger?

The bottom line is that no natural trainer will EVER look anywhere as good as he would with AAS (provided he knows what he's doing) that's the bottom line, the body cannot and will not hold on to that much lean muscle naturally. Ever heard of homeostasis? this is what the human body is trying to maintain - in other words; equilibrium, the human body does not want to be a shredded 260lbs. and it will do everything possible to thwart those efforts.

If you have AAS in your POSSESSION with out a script then it is a FELONY.

Wrong again, maybe in the united states but not in the rest of the world. I've been pulled over (for speeding) by cops with bottles and bottles of gear in the cup holder of my car, all the cop did was ask if that was steroids , I said yes and that was the end of it. He never said another word about it.

[swoody]

But why do u HAVE to have AAS to get you MORE ripped and stronger? Why cant u just be ripped and stronger with OUT AAS?
> You are either too lazy to do it naturally
> OR YOu dont have enough knowledge about nutrition/strength training to do it

Which is it?

And you DONT compete or do PAID shoots, so why do u need to be MORE ripped and stronger?

Some people just don't have the genetics, bud