Let me say this much:
Joel was known for his back and everyone just keep saying Joel is all back...somehow not seeing that his entire upper body is nothing short of SPECTACULAR.
Delts and chest are already phenomenal and he has small waist, flat abdomen with deep symmetrical abs...
His arms are very good and he is determined to improve them even more (didn't train them too hard as he said....so far).
After few people realized (opened their eyes
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) that his whole upper body is phenomenal they started talking about his weak legs...
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Flexonline actually gave him "endorsement" - best upper body of all time after last years Europa show...and many people since than agreed with that statement.
Now - let's talk about his legs.
His hamstrings and glutes are already at the TOP LEVEL - size, shape, muscle maturity, quality...it is all there.
Calves are good...nice shape and separation...With another inch or two - he'll be super competitive to even the very best (IFBB pro calves
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)...
Quadriceps - certainly need to be improved - but not as much as people are saying...
He does have upper portion developed and nicely separated...Lower portion of the quads is what needs to come up.
Due to his injury and surgeries - he does have weak area just above his knees (VMO and Lateralis...) and for that he needs to get to work...
He is committed and I will be beyond excited to help him achieve his goals.
Many people question his low placings in the last 3 years and I certainly hope that judges will give him a good look next time he steps on that stage.
His plan is to go to Australia and I am very much encouraged that Australian judges have no problem calling it AS THEY SEE IT...without any influence from overseas...(names, previous placings...etc...)
So, I do expect that Joel will be in direct comparisons with some of the top guys and when world see him next to the very best - they might realize how good he truly is.
Also, we will try to majorly improve his legs in matter of 2 weeks (it worked for Kris Dim - see the improvements he made since the Ironman in short 7 days) and with better legs and hopefully 10 pounds heavier - he will be TRUE CONTENDER...and soon grace the Mr. Olympia stage...