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what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« on: February 25, 2007, 03:37:41 AM »
damn the once unbeatable guy is getting his ass kicked by every other fighter.he lost 2 fights in a row and also lost his middle weight championship belt..what the fuck is wrong with the great silva?
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2007, 04:09:47 AM »
Whats wrong is he has lost to two excellent fighters, there is no disgrace in either respect.

Secondly he is/was not as great as everyone makes out! He is brilliant, but he has 7 defeats now, thats a fair few!

I reckon he will come back from this.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2007, 05:17:46 AM »
Whats wrong is he has lost to two excellent fighters, there is no disgrace in either respect.

Secondly he is/was not as great as everyone makes out! He is brilliant, but he has 7 defeats now, thats a fair few!

I reckon he will come back from this.

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but wandy was truly unbeatable few years ago but suddenly hes getting knocked out completely.he lost his title after being a champion for a long time.i think so he gonna end his career like ken shamrock
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2007, 05:43:06 AM »
Maybe i'm wrong but at first his intensity was so high that everyone feared him and thought he wasn't human and now we realize he's vulnerable kinda circa the ole Mike Tyson...

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2007, 06:18:37 AM »
he was trul unbeatable against japanese cans.

Also sakuraba was outweighed heavily and when he and cro cop drew first time around it was cro cops first foray into MMA

Look what happened a few years later.


His intensity is still there he is an animal, but he has lost before, Ortiz has beat him, BELFORT beat him!

he may have peaked and be on the the way down but he was never the god he was made out to be.

A great fighter yes but never invincible


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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2007, 08:23:22 AM »
The guy's almost 30 now and he lost to a belt holder and arguably the 2nd best fighter in the world right now, is that a problem? No one is invincible forever. What a fucking amazing night.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2007, 08:37:32 AM »
Pride should sign Shammy to fight Wandy  ;D

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2007, 09:45:30 AM »
Henderson never seems to get his props. The guy is one of the best NHB fighters, ever.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2007, 10:09:07 AM »
he was trul unbeatable against japanese cans.

Also sakuraba was outweighed heavily and when he and cro cop drew first time around it was cro cops first foray into MMA

Look what happened a few years later.


His intensity is still there he is an animal, but he has lost before, Ortiz has beat him, BELFORT beat him!

he may have peaked and be on the the way down but he was never the god he was made out to be.

A great fighter yes but never invincible


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This coupled with fighting under different rules, taking two of his best weapons away from him, kneeing a downed opponent, stomping a downed opponent, oh yeah, and vitamin S.  I have said it before, in the cage, Chuck would have a great shot at KOing Wandy.  Wandy's chin isn't as tough as Liddell's, he has been rocked by Mezger, Page, Hendo.  He has made a career fighting Japanese fighters who are smaller, not as strong/athletic, who are unfamiliar with the clinch.  (Where Wandy can knee successfully, prior to stomping)  Wandy throws looping punches, isn't as adept at footwork as a world class striker, but is ultra aggressive.  Not to mention, like Thin Lizzy said, Hendo is extremely underrated.  He has never been KOed, and when he has lost by sub, he loses to bigger, longer opponents who are BJJ based.  Hendo has always had power to spare to bang. 

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2007, 12:32:12 AM »
That was a sweet knockout, I kinda feel bad for Wandy.. he's been KTFO in his last two fights...
and that was a sick left by Henderson

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2007, 01:34:02 AM »
in reflection, Wandy had Dan in a few positions where, if it were in Japan, he would have kneed the shit out of him and possibly got the upper hand. It looked like after a while he knew he was going to lose this fight. Loved how Nick Cage (BJJ practitioner - its true!) and Chuck were seated together  ;D
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2007, 02:16:56 AM »
More UFC guys winning in pride... And wand losing two fights in a row...
But the bulk of hardcore fans still think pride fighters are better. Not only that but the UFC fighters were on losing streaks in the UFC.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2007, 02:59:29 AM »
You cant seriously tell me UFC is better than Pride based on those 2 results? Nick Diaz will win fights in any Org. and Trigg was looking very good. However you MUST understand that pride fighters have different rules, and most of the UFC's crop would be buried under them because they arent used to them. Even Mirko said he nearly forgot he wasnt allowed to strike a downed opponent, and had he opened up on Sanchez the way he could have then he would indeed be dead now!  ;D

The only way to settle this would be in a tournament between the 2 companies, however Dana isnt going to entertain that theory any time soon and for good reason
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2007, 05:14:01 AM »
like someone mentioned, i also think Wand is great, one of the top fighters and deserved be number one but he is not invencible neither the 'god' some people claim he is...

he has weaknesses and lost some fights before...Belfort did not 'won' against Wand, he simply passed on top of him like a truck

i won some good fights, but fighting some REAL competition he lost it. Tito, Belfort, Hunt and now henderson (who is a great fighter). Some of his best fights against a real good fighter was against rampage and sakuraba...the rest i think it was not THAT great...
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2007, 08:34:21 AM »
the thing is, if he is passed it and now a can, as you are labelling him, what does that make Rampage?
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2007, 08:52:13 AM »
Henderson never seems to get his props. The guy is one of the best NHB fighters, ever.

I never understood why Hendo never got the recognition he deserves from American mma fans.  His wrestling is top notch (silver medal in greco) and punches extremely hard.  How mmaweekly had him ranked below Rich Franklin after Ace was destroyed by Anderson Silva is beyone me.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2007, 12:00:13 PM »
I never understood why Hendo never got the recognition he deserves from American mma fans.  His wrestling is top notch (silver medal in greco) and punches extremely hard.  How mmaweekly had him ranked below Rich Franklin after Ace was destroyed by Anderson Silva is beyone me.

I think you have Dan confused with Woogie.  Dan never won a silver in Greco.  He does have extremely heavy hands, and is capable of beating anyone.  Wandy isn't done, but if they continue to showcase him in the US, a lot of his weapons aren't available.  His striking isn't on par with Mirko, so his loss there isn't an indication of him slipping.  He is wild, throws looping punches, bleeds easily, has a somewhat suspect chin, and his defense is getting worse.  He is EXCELLENT in the clinch (as are all Chute Boxe fighters), delivers vicious knees, elbows, and is a savage. 

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2007, 03:30:24 PM »
I think it's clear to see that Wand hasn't fully recovered from when he was KO'ed by Crocop. His confidence isn't there. He was more defensive, than offensive. A guy like that is not supposed to be KO'ed by Dan Henderson.

Wonder if we'll ever see the old Wand.
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2007, 05:01:15 PM »
I think it's clear to see that Wand hasn't fully recovered from when he was KO'ed by Crocop. His confidence isn't there. He was more defensive, than offensive. A guy like that is not supposed to be KO'ed by Dan Henderson.

Wonder if we'll ever see the old Wand.


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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2007, 07:20:37 PM »
Hendo has extremely heavy hands, he hit Wand with a spinning backfist that rocked Wand, and finished up with a nice combo.  Don't sell Dan short, he did KO Murillo.  Something that doesn't happen often. 

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2007, 04:04:40 AM »
... has a somewhat suspect chin, ...

thank god im not the only one to notice that...I mean, is not that he has a chin made completely of glass, but he is miles and miles away from Mark Hunt chin of steel...
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2007, 09:14:45 AM »
Hendo would've lost the fight in Japan when he got caught north/south and Wandy would've been able to knee the ever living shit out of his face.

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2007, 09:59:16 AM »
Hendo would've lost the fight in Japan when he got caught north/south and Wandy would've been able to knee the ever living shit out of his face.
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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2007, 10:27:20 AM »
I guess Wandy would have won if they didn't allow clean pinpoint punches to the jaw!   ::)  These excuses fuckin' kill me!  Japan...rules...blah blah!  The rules were the same for both guys!  Wandy got knocked the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuck out!  Period!  Good night!  Sleep tight!  Dream of how you can get better for your next fight!  Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one but nobody likes one.  A real man can say that the other man was better that night!  A baby cries and makes excuses. 

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Re: what the fuck is wrong with WANDY?
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2007, 10:35:09 AM »
I guess Wandy would have won if they didn't allow clean pinpoint punches to the jaw!   ::)  These excuses fuckin' kill me!  Japan...rules...blah blah!  The rules were the same for both guys!  Wandy got knocked the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuck out!  Period!  Good night!  Sleep tight!  Dream of how you can get better for your next fight!  Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one but nobody likes one.  A real man can say that the other man was better that night!  A baby cries and makes excuses. 

How is it an excuse? I'm a fan of both fighters but to say that Hendo wouldn't have gotten rocked from the north/south position is pretty stupid...or have you not seen a Pride event where fighters have ended up like that? I can think of a few....Wandy/Sakurba, Arona/Sakuraba and countless others where knees to the face changed the entire course of a fight.

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