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Dos Equis · « **Reply #25 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:18:29 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 31, 2007, 10:15:05 PM

I bugged their home office and regularly engage in industrial espionage selling secrets to Target and local cooperatives.

You're fired! Hasn't worked.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #26 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:19:24 PM »

once a week I go into walmart and find a safe place to stand away from the exit and yell, "IMMIGRATION!!!" then I watch the mass pileup at the exits

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #27 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:20:00 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:18:29 PM

You're fired! Hasn't worked.

fired what? Of course it's worked

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:21:46 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 31, 2007, 10:16:02 PM

i hear ya. but there's something about a family owned hardware store, Auto mechanic, drug store, etc... that just pure and the service you get there is usually superb. With BIG corporations it's different.

Oh yeah, I totaly agree and I shop at a small family owned place over a big corp anyday.

OzmO · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:24:14 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:16:56 PM

Interesting. I haven't read up on this. But is this really a bad thing? Seems to me it is what the market wants. They come in and offer more products at a cheap price, employ more people, and put more money into the economy.

And isn't the alternative socialism?

Yes, they offer cheaper prices, more products etc.... But have you ever gone to that old tea/breakfast cafe on the east side of Honolulu, it supposed to be the first tea house or something on the Island. It's set deep in a grove of trees. I can't remember the name. But that's has the charm fo a family owned place. Where i live there used to be a a place called Pacific hardware, a family owned business, where you knew the people there and they ran the place beautifully. they had to sell out to ace hardware. Not the same anymore.

Yes you pay more, but it doesn't usually take eggs off the table. The alternative isn't socialism, it's supporting local businesses. I do that as much as i can.

Don;t get me wrong, i'm not against big businesses. i just don;t like to see small business go under. It's what makes us unique, individual and says to the average person that they can own their own business and prosper....it's part of the American dream

OzmO · « **Reply #30 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 31, 2007, 10:17:38 PM

I suggest we have a mod war and totally start wacking what the other mods are saying Ok, me first, I've just went back and changed 4 of Beach's posts to read, "I'm a homo and there is nothing you can do about it. I love men"

lol

Dos Equis · « **Reply #31 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:25:49 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 31, 2007, 10:20:00 PM

fired what? Of course it's worked

If you're spying and sharing secrets to hurt their business, you have failed. Miserably. I have never walked into Wal-Mart, anywhere, and not seen it just packed with customers. Same with Costco.

Turn in your spy card.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #32 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:27:11 PM »

Did someone say socialism

Hold up...... I think I hav... yes, I found it!!!

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:28:25 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:25:49 PM

If you're spying and sharing secrets to hurt their business, you have failed. Miserably. I have never walked into Wal-Mart, anywhere, and not seen it just packed with customers. Same with Costco.

Turn in your spy card.

No... It's packed until I yell Immigration!

Then it is empty.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:29:51 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 31, 2007, 10:24:14 PM

Yes, they offer cheaper prices, more products etc.... But have you ever gone to that old tea/breakfast cafe on the east side of Honolulu, it supposed to be the first tea house or something on the Island. It's set deep in a grove of trees. I can't remember the name. But that's has the charm fo a family owned place. Where i live there used to be a a place called Pacific hardware, a family owned business, where you knew the people there and they ran the place beautifully. they had to sell out to ace hardware. Not the same anymore.

Yes you pay more, but it doesn't usually take eggs off the table. The alternative isn't socialism, it's supporting local businesses. I do that as much as i can.

Don;t get me wrong, i'm not against big businesses. i just don;t like to see small business go under. It's what makes us unique, individual and says to the average person that they can own their own business and prosper....it's part of the American dream

I agree with much of this. Small business is the backbone of our economy. I love the mom and pop stores too. (Never tea/breakfast place you mentioned.) I guess the way I see this is ultimately the market determines whether a business should survive or not.

How do you stop Wal-Mart from entering the market without using socialism? Sounds like the government controlling the market, instead of consumers.

OzmO · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:29:51 PM

I agree with much of this. Small business is the backbone of our economy. I love the mom and pop stores too. (Never tea/breakfast place you mentioned.) I guess the way I see this is ultimately the market determines whether a business should survive or not.

How do you stop Wal-Mart from entering the market without using socialism? Sounds like the government controlling the market, instead of consumers.

One time i read about 3 years ago enough people in a town sign a petition baring them from opening a Wal Mart and it worked.

But i donno. I just see this trend happening more and more. It probably won;t be stopped.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:34:49 PM »

You guys are no fun

OzmO · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:38:50 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 31, 2007, 10:34:49 PM

You guys are no fun

sorry dude, i'm out.

GF here in 30 min

Dos Equis · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:44:02 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 31, 2007, 10:34:19 PM

One time i read about 3 years ago enough people in a town sign a petition baring them from opening a Wal Mart and it worked.

But i donno. I just see this trend happening more and more. It probably won;t be stopped.

Petition followed by ordinance/law? Denial of permit or business license? The government had to be involved.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:45:11 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 31, 2007, 10:34:49 PM

You guys are no fun

I'm out too. My girlfriend is here. And she's much bigger than Ozmo's lady. (It's my big screen TV).

Buenos noches.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #40 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:46:00 PM »

Well, I waited to hear what everyone else thought (they were not surprising answers) but I'll now weigh on it.

The Wal-Mart you all know and love is not the same Wal-Mart that Sam Walton envisioned.

Sam Walton hated the Super Centers... only his kids liked them.

Sam knew that running the average little business owner and working man out of business was bad for everyone... people can't spend money at his store if there's no jobs.

Sam Walton used to buy things that were made in America... Wal-Mart buys more crap from Korea, Taiwan, and China now than anywhere.

I do not like Wal-Mart, honestly, Wal-Mart may be the one corporation I truly hate, but I did not always feel this way. I used to really like Wal-Mart, but they changed and the corporation after Sam Walton died got more greedy.

Wal-Mart is a terrible company and I refuse to ever shop there.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #41 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:53:18 PM »

Quote from: Benfun7 on March 31, 2007, 10:13:05 PM

The people who shop at Wal-Mart here always crack me up. They all look sick/psychotic.

I'm 100% Capitalist, I can't hate Wal-Mart for doing well.

Capitalism is designed for everyone, not one particular corporation, technically, what Wal-Mart does is price gouging. They can sell a product cheaper because they are the largest retail chain in the world, which gives them buying leverage.

Did you know that if I open a store to sell widgets and I buy widgets from a vendor, and widgets that are stolen come out of my bottom line.

Wal-Mart because they are so large tells vendors that if a widget gets stolen, it's up to the vendor to replace it free of charge.

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:08:51 PM

I haven't noticed that here. We have lots of small businesses and I haven't heard of any of them shutting down because of Wal-Mart. I know they gave K-Mart problems. But Wal-Mart is giving consumers what they want.

There are many small businesses who have gone under due to Wal-Mart stores, you don't notice it as I believe you are close to the LA region, but small rural towns have seen the pain... Many small towns in rural America have had to close up their doors due to being undercut by Wal-Mart.

What I find interesting is that people say it's no big deal, until it's them... People who shop at wal-mart and say, I do it because it's cheap, are the same people who work for the Auto Industry and get upset when they are let go because American cars are too expensive.

It's a viscious cycle.

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 31, 2007, 10:16:56 PM

Interesting. I haven't read up on this. But is this really a bad thing? Seems to me it is what the market wants. They come in and offer more products at a cheap price, employ more people, and put more money into the economy.

And isn't the alternative socialism?

No, the alternative is a fair market place... my first example.

I'm not trying to redistribute wealth by any stretch, but there will be a "reckoning" of sorts... It can't be helped... the Economy is all of us, not just a few, and not just the most rich... Without you and me making money, Wal-Mart can't exist. No place can.

Wal-Mart was fine before the Sam died... His kids fucked it all up.

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #42 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:55:54 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 31, 2007, 10:46:00 PM

Well, I waited to hear what everyone else thought (they were not surprising answers) but I'll now weigh on it.

The Wal-Mart you all know and love is not the same Wal-Mart that Sam Walton envisioned.

Sam Walton hated the Super Centers... only his kids liked them.

Sam knew that running the average little business owner and working man out of business was bad for everyone... people can't spend money at his store if there's no jobs.

Sam Walton used to buy things that were made in America... Wal-Mart buys more crap from Korea, Taiwan, and China now than anywhere.

I do not like Wal-Mart, honestly, Wal-Mart may be the one corporation I truly hate, but I did not always feel this way. I used to really like Wal-Mart, but they changed and the corporation after Sam Walton died got more greedy.

Wal-Mart is a terrible company and I refuse to ever shop there.

well said

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #43 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:58:55 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 31, 2007, 10:53:18 PM

Capitalism is designed for everyone, not one particular corporation, technically, what Wal-Mart does is price gouging. They can sell a product cheaper because they are the largest retail chain in the world, which gives them buying leverage.

Did you know that if I open a store to sell widgets and I buy widgets from a vendor, and widgets that are stolen come out of my bottom line.

Wal-Mart because they are so large tells vendors that if a widget gets stolen, it's up to the vendor to replace it free of charge.

I've been to Wal-Mart 5 times since it opened here 3 years ago, I think it's a disgusting place to be. What can we do though? They didn't break the law, if we start limiting Wal-Mart than whats next?

tu_holmes · « **Reply #44 on:** March 31, 2007, 11:01:36 PM »

Quote from: Benfun7 on March 31, 2007, 10:58:55 PM

I've been to Wal-Mart 5 times since it opened here 3 years ago. I think it's a disgusting place to be. What can we do though? They didn't break the law, if we start limiting Wal-Mart than whats next?

We limit a lot of things in the name of fair enterprise in this country... That's what monopoly cases are all about.

People in middle america are the ones losing, when they can no longer afford to even shop at Wal-Mart, then Wal-Mart too will suffer... They will see.

All we can do is what we are... shop there if you like, but if you don't, refuse to step foot in their doors.

That's me.

Tre · « **Reply #45 on:** March 31, 2007, 11:10:38 PM »

From a purely historical standpoint, the loss of America's downtowns is a tragedy.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #46 on:** April 01, 2007, 10:27:47 AM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 31, 2007, 10:53:18 PM

Capitalism is designed for everyone, not one particular corporation, technically, what Wal-Mart does is price gouging. They can sell a product cheaper because they are the largest retail chain in the world, which gives them buying leverage.

Did you know that if I open a store to sell widgets and I buy widgets from a vendor, and widgets that are stolen come out of my bottom line.

Wal-Mart because they are so large tells vendors that if a widget gets stolen, it's up to the vendor to replace it free of charge.

There are many small businesses who have gone under due to Wal-Mart stores, you don't notice it as I believe you are close to the LA region, but small rural towns have seen the pain... Many small towns in rural America have had to close up their doors due to being undercut by Wal-Mart.

What I find interesting is that people say it's no big deal, until it's them... People who shop at wal-mart and say, I do it because it's cheap, are the same people who work for the Auto Industry and get upset when they are let go because American cars are too expensive.

It's a viscious cycle.

No, the alternative is a fair market place... my first example.

I'm not trying to redistribute wealth by any stretch, but there will be a "reckoning" of sorts... It can't be helped... the Economy is all of us, not just a few, and not just the most rich... Without you and me making money, Wal-Mart can't exist. No place can.

Wal-Mart was fine before the Sam died... His kids fucked it all up.

What you're saying is we use the government to keep a business out of a community that the community wants so smaller entities can survive. That is socialism in my book. The end result is fewer choices for the consumer, potentially fewer jobs, and less revenue. I don't think this a good thing.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #47 on:** April 01, 2007, 12:58:42 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on April 01, 2007, 10:27:47 AM

What you're saying is we use the government to keep a business out of a community that the community wants so smaller entities can survive. That is socialism in my book. The end result is fewer choices for the consumer, potentially fewer jobs, and less revenue. I don't think this a good thing.

Hardly... The community doesn't want them anyway... Many small communities around the country would rather not have them there.

There was a Wal-Mart placed in Ashland, Virginia and the community didn't want it... Someone got paid though and the Wal-Mart went in. It is currently one of the least visited Wal-Marts in the country and loses money regularly. This is small town USA and they hate Wal-Mart.

If a community "wants" Wal-Mart (and I doubt you'll find many that say, "Man, I sure wish we had a Wal-Mart") then fine, but there are many communities who would rather Wal-Mart stay out, but Wal-Mart pushes its way in anyway.

Since you brought up Socialism anyway... please explain to me why you think it's so bad.

Many things which are of a socialist ideal seem very smart... Public healthcare and the like.

So what exactly about socialism do you think is so evil?

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #48 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:10:19 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on April 01, 2007, 10:27:47 AM

What you're saying is we use the government to keep a business out of a community that the community wants so smaller entities can survive. That is socialism in my book. The end result is fewer choices for the consumer, potentially fewer jobs, and less revenue. I don't think this a good thing.

YES!! I'm sick and tired of idiots saying Wal-mart supercenters = bad. First of all what they take from the community in mom and pop stores they give back via jobs and great prices. Efficiency is king these days and so is lower pricing.

tu_holmes · « **Reply #49 on:** April 01, 2007, 01:18:46 PM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on April 01, 2007, 01:10:19 PM

YES!! I'm sick and tired of idiots saying Wal-mart supercenters = bad. First of all what they take from the community in mom and pop stores they give back via jobs and great prices. Efficiency is king these days and so is lower pricing.

Really Camel? So you're saying that if I work at let's say a local Toy store and I make 8 bucks and hour, then they go out of business because Wal-Mart came in and their Toy people make 7 bucks an hour, that it's better?

Wal-Mart is not more efficient by the way, they're too large to be efficient.