Author Topic: Big Lee Heavy Deadliftin Part 3 (Read 4660 times)

Big Lee · « **on:** May 10, 2007, 03:23:48 PM »

Since the last installment, I have lost 15kg of fat so I am 100kg now. This is 220kg x 11. 23 weeks out from competition, both deadlifting and bodybuilding. Following Dave Palumbo diet.

hangclean · « **Reply #1 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:35:03 PM »

How much do those green plates weigh? Usually they are 110 pounds. Obviously they're not, but I'm just curious.

Big Lee · « **Reply #2 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:36:08 PM »

20kg each

hangclean · « **Reply #3 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:43:23 PM »

how come they're not blue?

Big Lee · « **Reply #4 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:44:52 PM »

We have blue, green and red plates that are all 20kg each. Im not sure why.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:49:31 PM »

for pure bodybuilding use lighter weight.

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:51:06 PM »

im surprised you dont have a hernia, it almost looks like a good morning. you need to bend your knees lower, thats the perfect deadlift, this is ego training. good luck

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:54:14 PM »

Quote from: EL Mariachi on May 10, 2007, 03:51:06 PM

im surprised you dont have a hernia, it almost looks like a good morning. you need to bend your knees lower, thats the perfect deadlift, this is ego training. good luck

for his mass and bodybuilding purposes its enough if this guy to use ..140-160kg at the end of a back workout. reps done yates style.

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2007, 03:57:57 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 03:54:14 PM

for his mass and bodybuilding purposes its enough if this guy to use ..140-160kg at the end of a back workout. reps done yates style.

yes i agree, one good rep equals 5 of those.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:00:47 PM »

he should really let "weight hang" from his lats like dorian does in his video.

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:05:40 PM »

guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.

beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now.

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:06:53 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 04:00:47 PM

he should really let "weight hang" from his lats like dorian does in his video.

no matter how your form is i believe it will hang on the lats, also on the traps. if you do the deadlift correctly your hamstrings will be sore for days. deadlift is a excellent hamstring excersize. but its a dilemma if you do full range of motion for legs with squat, you ll work your hamstrings 2 a week that way. $:-\$

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:07:13 PM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on May 10, 2007, 04:05:40 PM

guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.

beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now.

thou art an obese powerlifer

YoungBlood · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:09:07 PM »

The first 2/3's of the set looked good. But, you must have steel cables for your erectae spinae because those last reps were pretty grueling looking!
Good lifting though. By the way, how much is that in pounds? I'm a US resident and unlike my sister I never had to learn the metric system!

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:09:14 PM »

Quote from: MisterMagoo on May 10, 2007, 04:05:40 PM

guy does over double his bodyweight for 11 reps and you're correcting him? i have a better idea, let's see you pull 480 for 11 and then start criticizing.

beastly lift, lee. making me feel like a weak little pussball now.

eventually he will fuck up his lover-back if he keeps his form like that. just trying to help this guy out.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:09:43 PM »

Quote from: EL Mariachi on May 10, 2007, 04:06:53 PM

no matter how your form is i believe it will hang on the lats, also on the traps. if you do the deadlift correctly your hamstrings will be sore for days. deadlift is a excellent hamstring excersize. but its a dilemma if you do full range of motion for legs with squat, you ll work your hamstrings 2 a week that way. $:-\$

no if you do them for back as a bodybuilder you should let them "hang from your lats" as yates did them.

if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:11:59 PM »

220 kg is not 480lbs its something like 484-485lbs

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:14:46 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 04:09:43 PM

no if you do them for back as a bodybuilder you should let them "hang from your lats" as yates did them.

if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder

ive stopped doing them from the floor, i pick them the bar up off the squat safety-bars. i think its safer for the back not to start from a low position with big weight. what video is that from doran? how did he let it hang from the lats?

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:16:37 PM »

yes partial deadlifts are a good alternative for bodybuilders and more safe in the long run.

dorian yates video: blood and guts.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:20:10 PM »

Quote from: EL Mariachi on May 10, 2007, 04:14:46 PM

ive stopped doing them from the floor, i pick them the bar up off the squat safety-bars. i think its safer for the back not to start from a low position with big weight. what video is that from doran? how did he let it hang from the lats?

hang from the lats: dorian didnt use maximal leg drive because he wasnt resetting the reps on the floor..he really let the weight hang from the lats in the bottom position because he was able to dominate the weight and used his upperbody to lift the it.

in blood and guts dorian "only" used 200kg for 8 reps (after pre exhausting with hyperextensions). if he wanted to do deadlifts powerlifting style im sure he would have pulled over 300kg.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:21:33 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 04:09:43 PM

if you do them powerlifting style from the floor and reset after each set its not as good for bodybuilding purposes. of course it will add mass but yates style is better for a bodybuilder

Yates did stiff-leg deadlifts for his hamstrings. Not conventional for his back like Ronnie does.
Two different movements, and it's intended for two separate muscle groups.

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #21 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:21:41 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 04:16:37 PM

yes partial deadlifts are a good alternative for bodybuilders and more safe in the long run.

dorian yates video: blood and guts.

no im not talking about partials, just the first rep to pick up the weight of a higher stance, not off the floor. its much better for the back, to prevent injury, doing deadlift starting from the floor is like starting benching from your chest up.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:23:07 PM »

Quote from: YoungBlood on May 10, 2007, 04:21:33 PM

Yates did stiff-leg deadlifts for his hamstrings. Not conventional for his back like Ronnie does.
Two different movements, and it's intended for two separate muscle groups.

i wasnt talking about hamstrings. yates did stiff leg deadlifts for hamstrings, yes. but i wasnt discussing that.

yates did deadlifts for his back too.

2 different kinds of deadlifts.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:24:39 PM »

Quote from: EL Mariachi on May 10, 2007, 04:21:41 PM

no im not talking about partials, just the first rep to pick up the weight of a higher stance, not off the floor. its much better for the back, to prevent injury, doing deadlift starting from the floor is like starting benching from your chest up.

only reason to do it that way is if your gonna do em yates style.

EL Mariachi · « **Reply #24 on:** May 10, 2007, 04:29:32 PM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 10, 2007, 04:24:39 PM

only reason to do it that way is if your gonna do em yates style.

i dont think you understand, when i pick it up, i step back and do full range of motion deadlift, and when finish lean forward to drop the weight on the bars. So that way you will warm up your lower-back with first lowering the weight down and then up from a starting position.