The hand techniques he was using is familiar to Karatekas...Karate has it's own tournaments; they don't compete as often in K-1. Bas wasted his life training to be a 6th degree blackbelt and now he's a karate fighter....sure.
We're going in circles. "Keep training."
Said I wasn't going to post on this anymore, but you are missing the point. Bas did in fact train in Karate, karate is an effective style, but I am counter arguing the point that you were
TRYING to make in other posts that
Karate is superior. I didn't want to name drop, and don't want to come off as a braggart or expert. If you EVER TALK to Bas, ask him his opinion on why he trains MT now. I have had the pleasure of training at a couple of seminars with Bas (very entertaining, and quite informative, leeeever kick). He would show techniques and training methods that he uses himself. Mind you I have his big book of combat, and big DVD set, as well as his self defense through Panther. I could count the times he makes reference to karate on both hands in all of them.
Brett Favre was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons, he was mentored under Mouse Davis/June Jones. Two proponents of the run and shoot. Is Brett a run and shoot guy? Is he a Falcon (when he gets elected to the HOF as a first balloter)? Will he go in as a Falcon? I don't think so. Does that mean he didn't learn anything from the run and shoot? No, I am sure there are SOME similarities in his set up and delivery, BUT Brett is a West Coast Offense guy.
I was a Wing Chun instructor and JKDC associate instructor. I practice little of both now, does that mean it was a waste of time? No, I learned a lot, met a lot of interesting people, got to train with some great instructors. Are there similarities to what I do now to then, YES. Would I have been better suited to train the way I do now then? YES. IF I could go back in time, I would have taken wrestling/judo farther, and started training Muay Thai/Boxing earlier. As it stands, I am a marginal stand up guy, with decent takedowns, decent TD defense. When I play with top tier judokas, they make a mockery of my preivous training. When I box with golden glove level fighters, they kill me (Of course I am not using my deadly biu jee eye jabs, jeet tek, or scoop kick from pananjackman) (that is levity, btw). I wouldn't have even begun REFUTING you had you not made it your set purpose to extol the virtues of Karate over everything else. But your arguements prior was Karate was THE MOST EFFECTIVE STAND UP art.
In short does Karate work?
Yes, against unskilled, untrained non athletic types. Will it work against a well rounded versed fighter? Prolly not, unless some lucky circumstance creates an opportunity. Does it have redeeming virtues that would benefit others? Yes. Best example I can cite you and I am out, HOW MUCH KARATE IS PRACTICED IN BRAZIL? The birthplace of Vale Tudo, NHB where stabbings, kidnappings, murders, etc.
NOT MUCH. Now I am really out.
