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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #100 on: July 07, 2007, 04:33:09 PM »
Getting stronger=Getting bigger provided nutrition and rest are adequate, simple as that. You can dropset, super set, giant set, etc. all you want but if the weight doesn't increase or increases slowly gains are going to be little(slow weight increase) to none(no increase). This is common sense.
haha, omg...ok, so that must mean that all pro bbers would murder all pro powerlifters and/or strongmen in strength contests since pro bbers muscles are like 3x as big.

Common sense, eh? Some deep thinkers on this board, there are.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #101 on: July 07, 2007, 07:19:12 PM »
chris is right. stronger does equal bigger, your muscles get bigger by getting stronger. not by getting weaker. but as usual confusing this with 'x person will automatically be bigger than y because he is stronger' which is not the case of course. all bodybuilders regardless of whether smaller one is stonger or not, got stronger when they got bigger. when kevin levrone shrinks down to his 150lb or whatever size it is, he gets weaker, not stronger and doesn't keep any of that strength. no coincidence he also is a hell of a lot smaller. when he gets bigger, HE gets stronger. not the turd who can deadlift 500lb at 140lb, but Kevin himself .. just like eating more calories than you take in will lead to weight gain but this doen't mean there aren't people who can eat junk food all day and not get fat. same thing and all relative to someone else. and to look like a bodybuilder you must train like one so of course it's not enough just to be strong. otherwise everyone who could lift the most would look the best. but if u want to be a big bodybuilder, then yes you must get stronger, while training like one.  i cant recall anyone looking ripped to shredds ie stage ready by doing 900lb deadlifts once a month. Can you?


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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2007, 07:51:03 PM »
I'm pretty sure they would get far better result if they starting training more like Ronnie!

Discuss

Its not about the weight, tis about intensity.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #103 on: July 07, 2007, 09:36:27 PM »
haha, omg...ok, so that must mean that all pro bbers would murder all pro powerlifters and/or strongmen in strength contests since pro bbers muscles are like 3x as big.

Common sense, eh? Some deep thinkers on this board, there are.

 ::)

Heres a good article by Arthur Jones, it's about how one can be bigger but not as strong as another individual.http://arthurjonesexercise.com/Ironman/SizeorStrength.PDF

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #104 on: July 08, 2007, 10:14:27 AM »
Its not about the weight, tis about intensity.

really? ok

guy 1 - does 3 sets of squats with the bar only, no rest between sets
guy 2 - does 3 sets of squats with 4 plates per side 2 minutes rest between sets

you say guy 1 will have better development.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2007, 12:30:33 PM »
really? ok

guy 1 - does 3 sets of squats with the bar only, no rest between sets
guy 2 - does 3 sets of squats with 4 plates per side 2 minutes rest between sets

you say guy 1 will have better development.

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Guy 2 is actually training the muscles more intense, where as guy 1 is training the cardiovascular system more intense. So as long as he didn't confuse the difference in intensity, than he would be right.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #106 on: July 08, 2007, 01:49:23 PM »
guy 1 - does 3 sets of squats with the bar only, no rest between sets
guy 2 - does 3 sets of squats with 4 plates per side 2 minutes rest between sets

you say guy 1 will have better development.

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Guy 1 doing picture perfect slow squats, squeezing every muscle in his leg
Guy 2 doing 3 inch squats for 3 reps

Yes guy 1 will have better leg development. You really needed to ask?

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2007, 01:51:43 PM »
Guy 1 doing picture perfect slow squats, squeezing every muscle in his leg
Guy 2 doing 3 inch squats for 3 reps

Yes guy 1 will have better leg development. You really needed to ask?
hahahaha, yeah because we all know how slow and controlled guys like Ronnie, Branch and Jay squat. ::)

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2007, 01:56:53 PM »
I was talking about the guys in Bluto's example  ::) ::)

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2007, 02:16:16 PM »
Guy 2 is actually training the muscles more intense, where as guy 1 is training the cardiovascular system more intense. So as long as he didn't confuse the difference in intensity, than he would be right.

but cardio is what milos and co is all about
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2007, 03:02:38 PM »










   all the top guys train like milos they just keep it under wraps so they could sell there videos  ::)[/size]
What do you notice about all these "top guys" bench this. They have torn biceps, lats, legs that are bigger then the other, torn pecs, etc... Heavy weight has its place but once in a blue moon.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2007, 03:03:52 PM »
milos has multiple injuries over the years

get a clue
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2007, 03:06:38 PM »
milos has multiple injuries over the years

get a clue

Yes but i doubt from doing 35 pound shoulder presses etc.. If course you are going to get injured. The key to to avoid it. Those types of work outs are the most efficient. Notice how all Milo's guys are lean year round. Most, if not all are placing very high.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2007, 03:08:13 PM »
Yes but i doubt from doing 35 pound shoulder presses etc.. If course you are going to get injured. The key to to avoid it. Those types of work outs are the most efficient. Notice how all Milo's guys are lean year round. Most, if not all are placing very high.

most efficient? says who? you might as well claim it's most efficient to go into the sauna and lift your nutsack up and down and do giant sets with your boyfriend
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2007, 03:12:36 PM »
most efficient? says who? you might as well claim it's most efficient to go into the sauna and lift your nutsack up and down and do giant sets with your boyfriend

pound of bricks or a pound of feathers? You choose. Both work. One is safer.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2007, 03:42:31 PM »
milos has multiple injuries over the years

get a clue

all from heay lifting too, what's your point?
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2007, 03:47:51 PM »
all from heay lifting too, what's your point?

how do you know?

please list each and every injury and what he did when he got them

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2007, 03:49:34 PM »
how do you know?

please list each and every injury and what he did when he got them


::) oh for christs sake

heres the first one that pops into my head:
torn quad, doing 900+ pound hack squats
don't believe me, then PM him yourself and ask him "bigmc", Bluto ::)
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2007, 09:17:40 PM »
Hmm if your stupid azz has done real research, you'd know that Milos trains very heavy. Go watch him do legs at his gym. It's always a great idea to switch things up and go for very high volume and extreme failure sometimes. You should try it. It does work great. Milos trains guys like this sometimes becuz, truth is, way too many bodybuilders (advanced or rookies, including Bluto) can't leave their ego at the gym door. They go heavy all year round because they feel like a pussy lifting light weight. In the process, they cheat themselves of muscle growth.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2007, 09:23:10 PM »
Hmm if your stupid azz has done real research, you'd know that Milos trains very heavy. Go watch him do legs at his gym. It's always a great idea to switch things up and go for very high volume and extreme failure sometimes. You should try it. It does work great. Milos trains guys like this sometimes becuz, truth is, way too many bodybuilders (advanced or rookies, including Bluto) can't leave their ego at the gym door. They go heavy all year round because they feel like a pussy lifting light weight. In the process, they cheat themselves of muscle growth.
I hope this is directed at Bluto :)
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2007, 09:29:31 PM »










   all the top guys train like milos they just keep it under wraps so they could sell there videos  ::)[/size]


dont get me wrong milos does looks great but his "technique " and his results dont compare to the guys above who train with with heavier weights and greater volume

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2007, 09:58:34 PM »
how do you know?

please list each and every injury and what he did when he got them



A single serious injury: quadriceps tear - doing Hack Squats with 900 lbs (10 plates on each side)...
I am back doing 8 plates each side at this point...but I can get away with one 25 pound plate on each side and make Hacks almost impossible to finish...

Again, any takers to come to my gym for GIANT SETS WORKOUT?

I am all for it - Lets have 10 of you guys who are now laughing at my methods...
I will gladly take you through my workout for free.

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #122 on: July 08, 2007, 09:59:35 PM »
A single serious injury: quadriceps tear - doing Hack Squats with 900 lbs (10 plates on each side)...
I am back doing 8 plates each side at this point...but I can get away with one 25 pound plate on each side and make Hacks almost impossible to finish...

Again, any takers to come to my gym for GIANT SETS WORKOUT?

I am all for it - Lets have 10 of you guys who are now laughing at my methods...
I will gladly take you through my workout for free.
can a member join in, even if I'm not laughing at your methods :D
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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2007, 10:00:39 PM »

Again, any takers to come to my gym for GIANT SETS WORKOUT?

I am all for it - Lets have 10 of you guys who are now laughing at my methods...
I will gladly take you through my workout for free.

At 300.00 per hour????

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Re: Why such low weights when training with Milos???
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2007, 10:13:08 PM »

dont get me wrong milos does looks great but his "technique " and his results dont compare to the guys above who train with with heavier weights and greater volume

Don't compare...? :'(