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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2007, 07:50:06 AM »
It could be that it is illegal.  Just a thought.   ::)

all drugs are illegal...so why pick on the performance enhancers.....

as i stated earlier...why not suspend actors for drug use??? they are here to entertain correct? very hypocritical....

is the supposed steroid wrestling deadpool ::) larger than the actor or musician deadpool??? probably not...

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2007, 07:58:05 AM »
LOL...Asshat Mcmahon..this smoke cloud couldnt be more obvious...DAHHHHH.....He prob gave them a bonus, and a little vacation for taking the "fall"..they will tie it into a story line too..the mainstream society is so clueless.

i think the suspensions were handed down AFTER the findings of the investigation....

"The move comes as investigators from the Albany, N.Y., district attorney's office have been gathering information about steroid use by WWE wrestlers as part of a wide ranging investigation into online pharmacies and the doctors who write prescriptions for them."

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2007, 07:59:37 AM »
Given that professional wrestling is not a sport or competition in any sense of the word, what's the point of a steroid policy?  That would be like a movie studio or dance troupe worrying whether their performers were taking roids.  ::)


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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2007, 08:12:49 AM »
At least their stacks are well thought out.  Tonight's smackdown should be interesting.  Why would Umanga be using anything?
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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2007, 08:53:21 AM »
At least their stacks are well thought out.  Tonight's smackdown should be interesting.  Why would Umanga be using anything?

Because, like so many other wrestlers, Umaga needs to be quick, strong, explosive, and able to heal from injuries rather quickly.

It's not about cosmetic appearance for all users of anabolics, a prime example of such would be the plethora of chubby powerlifters that we've seen over the years.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2007, 09:30:03 AM »
It could be that it is illegal.  Just a thought.   ::)

if that's the only rationale, then its legality should be enough. do they have a "murder" policy? how about a "tax fraud" policy? a "drunk in public" policy?

the reason sports have such a policy is because that activity is specifically against what the institutions want to achieve. that's why when a football player gets caught with coke in his car he gets a little slap on the wrists but no real penalties, while if it's proven he used steroids it's a huge ruckus.

both are equally illegal, but the league has a specific policy because if some player snorts a line at a party over the weekend it doesn't wreck the ideals of the sport as much as performance enhancing drugs do.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2007, 09:36:53 AM »

.....lmao.... and john cena said he was bless with nature for the physique he got..... fuck you!
are you delusional?

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2007, 09:42:45 AM »
Given that professional wrestling is not a sport or competition in any sense of the word, what's the point of a steroid policy?  That would be like a movie studio or dance troupe worrying whether their performers were taking roids.  ::)

With all the negative press – especially after Benoit – it would look even worse if Vince did nothing at all. He had to address it somehow.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2007, 09:49:48 AM »
It could be that it is illegal.  Just a thought.   ::)

Legality?
Man, how times have changed.

Do you remember (I think it was in 1987) when Jim Duggan & Iron Sheik were arrested on a drunk driving charge? Duggan was found with marijuana and Sheik with marijuana & cocaine.

The story hit the press and Vince was irate. But not because of the DUI & drug possession – he was upset that two of his wrestlers who were supposed to be feuding and kicking the shit out of each other at the time were caught sharing a rental car.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2007, 10:01:25 AM »
 Vince and His WWE Will be alright. Influence or not Vince is the "Teflon Don" Of wrestling!!!

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2007, 10:03:15 AM »
whether its sports or entertainment....the District Attorney of Albany, New York is conducting a thorough comprehensive legal investigation.  

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2007, 10:09:55 AM »
It is because of the history of AAS use in the WWF that McMahon has to take these things seriously, or at least appear to do so for public relations.  Some of the allegations have come from the very top (including Terry Bollea, aka Hulk Hogan), & there has been some discussion of federal regulation or investigation of the WWE.  The wellness policy has caused several wrestlers to terminate association with WWE, & it's likely more will follow.  Computerized database searches are permitting much more disclosure than was previously possible.  It's easier to track down now than it was. 

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2007, 10:16:16 AM »
I knew Regal had to be on the juice.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2007, 10:18:16 AM »
Amazing how this guy's never been subject to a test or accused of juicing...





why?  looks completely natural to me

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2007, 11:15:23 AM »
It could be that it is illegal.  Just a thought.   ::)


Is the WWE the police?  Did congress charge them with responsibility for law enforcment when I wasn't looking?  ::)
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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2007, 01:27:29 PM »
if that's the only rationale, then its legality should be enough. do they have a "murder" policy? how about a "tax fraud" policy? a "drunk in public" policy?

the reason sports have such a policy is because that activity is specifically against what the institutions want to achieve. that's why when a football player gets caught with coke in his car he gets a little slap on the wrists but no real penalties, while if it's proven he used steroids it's a huge ruckus.

both are equally illegal, but the league has a specific policy because if some player snorts a line at a party over the weekend it doesn't wreck the ideals of the sport as much as performance enhancing drugs do.

The problem is when a sports personality does something wrong it can affect the whole sport.  It gives them a black eye.  BB is the perfect example.  BB has never made it mainstream because from the very start steroids were used and most people knew it and it appeared unless you took drugs you just couldn't get as big as the guys you see on stage or in the magazines.  it has got worse as the years gone by.  Real sports like baseball, football, basketball, golf, tennis all started off as being mostly popular.  They were all sports that allot of people growing up participated in and gave them a chance to possibly become a pro and make lots of money and fame. 

When someone gets nailed for drugs or other crimes it gives that sport a black eye and makes it appear that the people involved are not perfect and crime is present.  Drugs are everywhere but because of a few bad apples it hurts the entire sport.  In acting people realize that if someone is taking drugs and is a fuck up it isn't because of the "acting industry" it because that person is just a fuck up.  So when Lohan or Hilton fuck up it doesn't do anything to the industry just that person.  BB started off fucked off and is just worse and worse.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2007, 06:51:22 PM »
same thing in the late 80's and ninties they said piper used,they all did.piper was not ultimate warrior built but he has thickish arm's and a big roid neck.wonder what snuka,muraco,orndoff,putski,and how much/long ,graham said he was on for long time.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #42 on: August 31, 2007, 08:05:09 PM »
I THINK A BETTER PUNISHMENT WOULD BE MAKING THEM WORK WITH OUT PAY FOR 30-60 DAYS AND HAVING THEM PAY FOR THERE TRAVEL, LODGING....... OUCH

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2007, 08:47:32 AM »
People -

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2007, 09:34:51 AM »
The problem is when a sports personality does something wrong it can affect the whole sport.  It gives them a black eye.  BB is the perfect example.  BB has never made it mainstream because from the very start steroids were used and most people knew it and it appeared unless you took drugs you just couldn't get as big as the guys you see on stage or in the magazines.  it has got worse as the years gone by.  Real sports like baseball, football, basketball, golf, tennis all started off as being mostly popular.  They were all sports that allot of people growing up participated in and gave them a chance to possibly become a pro and make lots of money and fame. 

When someone gets nailed for drugs or other crimes it gives that sport a black eye and makes it appear that the people involved are not perfect and crime is present.  Drugs are everywhere but because of a few bad apples it hurts the entire sport.  In acting people realize that if someone is taking drugs and is a fuck up it isn't because of the "acting industry" it because that person is just a fuck up.  So when Lohan or Hilton fuck up it doesn't do anything to the industry just that person.  BB started off fucked off and is just worse and worse.

my point was that if something is illegal, in the case of a sport wherein performance enhancement doesn't inherently hurt the sport itself, just default to the criminality of it and when someone is caught, let the legal system take care of it. wrestling doesn't need a "steroid policy" any more than they need a "vehicular homicide" policy. you get caught breaking the law, you get the book thrown at you.

as for wrestling, people forget that it isn't steroids killing these guys, it's that they're in the most physically intensive sport there is. i know, it's not as hard to put on a 15 minute "match" as it is to play soccer for an hour (though i'd argue that too), but these guys have no offseason. they do 250+ shows a year. they don't get a few months to just relax and recuperate. so they take meth to have the energy to perform, vicodin so they can handle the pain that hasn't gone away from the last 50 shows.

steroids is just a convenient scapegoat. like someone said in the benoit thread, if a guy dies and they find a cabinet full of alcohol and perscription pills in his bathroom, they just shrug. if a guy kills someone and he had a few joints in his pocket and a whiskey flask in the other they'll say he had problems but it wasn't the drugs. they find a single vial of testosterone in his house and now he's a roid-head and that's what did it.

bottom line: a steroid policy in a non-competitive activity is unnecessary because it's already illegal, wrestling is extremely damaging and that's what's killing these guys.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2007, 10:00:36 AM »
...but these guys have no offseason. they do 250+ shows a year. they don't get a few months to just relax and recuperate. so they take meth to have the energy to perform, vicodin so they can handle the pain that hasn't gone away from the last 50 shows.

Yep.

“A normal working day for me was: speed to wake me up in the morning to catch an early flight, valium to make me sleep on the plane, Percoset just before the match, then we’d wrestle, hit the beer, and the cocaine, until the early hours, before taking another valium to put me to sleep at night.
I was in good company, because the majority of wrestlers all shared more or less the same lifestyle.”


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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2007, 11:03:49 AM »
What is wrestling without bodybuilding drugs?  They are supposed to be larger than life cartoonish figures.  If I'm a wrestling fan i don't want to see regular every day gym physiques while watching these guys perform.  The govt should go after companies like Budweiser and Marlboro.  I'm sure they have caused more fatalities.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2007, 11:04:13 AM »
Just read an interview with the Rock, he says he never took steroids in his life!  ::)

Guess the gyno was caused by creatine  :P

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2007, 12:01:50 PM »
What is wrestling without bodybuilding drugs?  They are supposed to be larger than life cartoonish figures.  If I'm a wrestling fan i don't want to see regular every day gym physiques while watching these guys perform.  The govt should go after companies like Budweiser and Marlboro.  I'm sure they have caused more fatalities.
and the ones who don't are stuck wrestling in high school or bingo halls to about 100 to 500people compared to a sold out arena wk after wk.

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Re: WWE Wellness Policy Suspensions
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2007, 05:08:00 PM »
lots of GH use goin on 
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