How do you define a mixed martial artist?

[davinci]

wow look at this bluto chuck lidell training and wow look at what hes doing..... you have actually made me waste my time and show you how much of a complete idiot you really are and how you have no place on this board, not even as a poster

[Bluto]

Doesn't change anything. My argument is rock solid still. I'm sure you can find footage of Chuck Liddell practising a number of Karate techniques, that he never has, and never will use in competition too - so what?

Hell, I'm sure we can find footage of Chuck in a bar armwrestling, but it won't be something he will have use of in the Octagon!

[davinci]

Doesn't change anything. My argument is rock solid still. I'm sure you can find footage of Chuck Liddell practising a number of Karate techniques, that he never has, and never will use in competition too - so what?

Hell, I'm sure we can find footage of Chuck in a bar armwrestling, but it won't be something he will have use of in the Octagon!

b/c you yourself like the all knowing master you are said "chuck lidell wouldnt train leglocks, why woud he its a waste of time"

[davinci]

hmmm lets see bluto your argument is so rocksolid especially since you where so SURE of chucks training and used him as an example b/c you know what high caliber fithters train... shall we recap

Training leg locks isn't only a waste of time it also set you up for an unnecessary risk of injury (as you yourself mentioned numerous times) for someone, let's say Chuck Liddell to risk that would be a giant mistake, there's no doubt about it.

There's always a possibility anyone would get caught at something, but you have to weigh that against the time it takes practicing (which could be used at strengthening more important part of your game), the slim chanceit would happen and the risk of injury practicing it in training.

My guess is, after Chuck Liddells two recent losses his trainer didn't scream "Leg locks Chuck, we gotta work 'em leg locks!"

as i stated bluto your argument is crap, your reasoning is crap, your training MUST b crap b/c you have no clue what you are talkin about. and even when you get called out like you did just now on your intelligence all you can do is backpeddle by saying sure you could find chuck in bar armwrestling but he wont use it in octagon? that wasnt point, point was by your quotes up there that chuck woudl not train leglocks cause its a waste of time. when actually he preffers them ...... so once again my son you have been proven wrong. everyday you only make yourself look worse and worse   so no your argument is not rock solid b/c you cant even follow your own argument. you alway keep tryin to change it to try and make yourself look right... like i said sadly everyone see's it

and the only thing you are doing good is runnin the mma board into the ground

[realkarateblackbelt]

MMA just means a martial arts competition open to all styles.

To be succesful in MMA you need 1 good standup and 1 good ground art.

Some people say you need cross-training in like 5 different styles but that's bullshit.
Nobody becomes proficient in any style that way. Starting out you shouldn't train in more than 2 or 3 styles. Later, after you become proficient in those as a base, you can learn more.

Go with one proven standup art and a proven ground art.

-Muay-Thai
-Full-contact Karate
-Boxing

-Wrestling
-Judo
-Jiu-Jitsu

Also, don't neglect weight training.
People knock weight training, but that's because people that get into MMA are usually little guys with Napolean complexes that grew up watching Bruce Lee movies. This is true. Strength is very important in fighting.

[Bluto]

b/c you yourself like the all knowing master you are said "chuck lidell wouldnt train leglocks, why woud he its a waste of time"

Like I said finding footage of him training leg locks doesnt' tell us more than finding footage of him armwrestling or doing some funky Karate moves.

[Bluto]

MMA just means a martial arts competition open to all styles.

To be succesful in MMA you need 1 good standup and 1 good ground art.

Some people say you need cross-training in like 5 different styles but that's bullshit.
Nobody becomes proficient in any style that way. Starting out you shouldn't train in more than 2 or 3 styles. Later, after you become proficient in those as a base, you can learn more.

Go with one proven standup art and a proven ground art.

-Muay-Thai
-Full-contact Karate
-Boxing

-Wrestling
-Judo
-Jiu-Jitsu

Also, don't neglect weight training.
People knock weight training, but that's because people that get into MMA are usually little guys with Napolean complexes that grew up watching Bruce Lee movies. This is true. Strength is very important in fighting.

Yes. A lot of people are under the illusion of a "complete mixed martial artist" they're just kidding themselves.

[davinci]

Like I said finding footage of him training leg locks doesnt' tell us more than finding footage of him armwrestling or doing some funky Karate moves.

no but finding 5 thousand pages of him telling what he trains and his trainer telling what he trains outside the cage does..

like i said you made the dumbass statement "chuck lidell doseent train leg locks why would he? it would b a waste  of time im sure of it"

and low and behold him and his trainer both say he prefferes leglocks on the ground so once again my friend you look like a dumbass "im sure of it"

[Bluto]

no but finding 5 thousand pages of him telling what he trains and his trainer telling what he trains outside the cage does..

like i said you made the dumbass statement "chuck lidell doseent train leg locks why would he? it would b a waste  of time im sure of it"

and low and behold him and his trainer both say he prefferes leglocks on the ground so once again my friend you look like a dumbass "im sure of it"

Prefer it to what? Armbars?

[davinci]

Prefer it to what? Armbars?

thats the submisison he preffers to work, its well documented bottom line you look like a jackass........ everytime your so sure of something you get proven wrong and you still cant admit it.....

anythign else you would like to tell us about top tier fighters and there training that your so sure of?

[Bluto]

thats the submisison he preffers to work, its well documented bottom line you look like a jackass........ everytime your so sure of something you get proven wrong and you still cant admit it.....

anythign else you would like to tell us about top tier fighters and there training that your so sure of?

But then he doesn't use submissions as a method of winning so in the end it's kinda pointless, isn't it? Who really cares what he plays around with in practice? Surely it cannot be a big part of his routine, as that would waste his time and enhance the risk of injury.

As Bruce Lee said,

" Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless "

Hope this helps.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

But then he doesn't use submissions as a method of winning so in the end it's kinda pointless, isn't it? Who really cares what he plays around with in practice? Surely it cannot be a big part of his routine, as that would waste his time and enhance the risk of injury.

As Bruce Lee said,

" Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless "

Hope this helps.

Would it be useless if he was taken down to the ground and Babaloo tried to do a leg lock on him?

[LittleRob]

Well rounded in any style and not afraid to fight.

[americanbulldog]

But then he doesn't use submissions as a method of winning so in the end it's kinda pointless, isn't it? Who really cares what he plays around with in practice? Surely it cannot be a big part of his routine, as that would waste his time and enhance the risk of injury.

As Bruce Lee said,

" Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless "

Hope this helps.

I guess Tito Ortiz does 0 Jiujitsu.  He doesn't pass guard, he doesn't use it, he is content to sit in closed guard and GNP.  Someone should tell him to stop training BJJ because Bluto says so.  Ditto Randy Couture, BJJ is useless, you've never used it in a fight, might as well stop training it.  Rampage musn't do jits either, he rarely passes guard, just picks guys who attempt to triangle him up and slam them.....Henderson doesn't sub people, he should stop training jits, I could go one forever. 

[davinci]

But then he doesn't use submissions as a method of winning so in the end it's kinda pointless, isn't it? Who really cares what he plays around with in practice? Surely it cannot be a big part of his routine, as that would waste his time and enhance the risk of injury.

As Bruce Lee said,

" Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless "

Hope this helps.

doesent matter read what  YOU posted, i evne quoted it, you said chuck would not TRAIN leglocks cause it would b a waste of time and you where SURE OF IT

but he does TRAIN leglocks, that was your argument, now your tryin to change your argument to he doseent use it to win... make up your mind there buddy cause you are sliding way off what YOU said

[Bluto]

Would it be useless if he was taken down to the ground and Babaloo tried to do a leg lock on him?

Babalu didn't last more than 1,5 minutes against Chuck. He can only dream about doing leg locks on him 

[Bluto]

doesent matter read what  YOU posted, i evne quoted it, you said chuck would not TRAIN leglocks cause it would b a waste of time and you where SURE OF IT

but he does TRAIN leglocks, that was your argument, now your tryin to change your argument to he doseent use it to win... make up your mind there buddy cause you are sliding way off what YOU said

I'm not sure he does, you claim he does. How much of his time does he devote to train leglocks? Would it even be enough to be considered "training" as in something that is a significant part of his routine?

If no - then I'm right.
If yes - then I'm wrong - he indeed trains it, but I'm still right with it being a bad decision.

[SinCitysmallGUY]

I'm not sure he does, you claim he does. How much of his time does he devote to train leglocks? Would it even be enough to be considered "training" as in something that is a significant part of his routine?

If no - then I'm right.
If yes - then I'm wrong - he indeed trains it, but I'm still right with it being a bad decision.

Can you just not admit that you stuck your foot in your mouth. Jesus your not FUCKING RIGHT!!!!

[Bluto]

Can you just not admit that you stuck your foot in your mouth. Jesus your not FUCKING RIGHT!!!!

I'm not? Prove it. 

[SinCitysmallGUY]

It has been. Re-read this thread.