shoulder injury/ best gear for rehab?

[Rimbaud]

Different reactions from different body composites.....

Very true.

[wes mantooth]

bump for eq!!!!!!

the whole deca lubrication thing is not as prevelant and powerful as it seems to be. i think there is a bit of a placebo effect due to the fact that everyone "talks" about deca lubing joints. although their is some fact to the lube thing....i think it works against you in the long run.

imagine getting a cortisone shot once every 14 days to mask an injury.....does it feel good? sure. is it doing you well? hell no. its eventually going to get to a point where something else might need to be done.

kinda like the clowns that lift and use nubain/ vicos/ percs....whatever. pain is the body's way of telling your brain somethings wrong. mask that pain....do more damage....pay later...

just my .2

[krazee]

bump for eq!!!!!!

the whole deca lubrication thing is not as prevelant and powerful as it seems to be. i think there is a bit of a placebo effect due to the fact that everyone "talks" about deca lubing joints. although their is some fact to the lube thing....i think it works against you in the long run.

imagine getting a cortisone shot once every 14 days to mask an injury.....does it feel good? sure. is it doing you well? hell no. its eventually going to get to a point where something else might need to be done.

kinda like the clowns that lift and use nubain/ vicos/ percs....whatever. pain is the body's way of telling your brain somethings wrong. mask that pain....do more damage....pay later...

just my .2

True dat.

[apparentluck(1)]

I would avoid any gear & simply ease off the shoulder work for awhile. I'd HIGHLY recommend some PT. A couple weeks of that will do wonders & then start very slowly.

IMO - gear will only mask any symptoms leaving you open to another injury later.

    WHAT IS PT?

[trab]

    WHAT IS PT?

Physical Therapy. If you got some issues, and Insh, its worth see'n if you got a good therapist.
Sometimes they are worth the trouble, sometimes not...

[trab]

Well xrays show a "level 3" bone spur causing an Impingement in my left shoulder....MRI today.  Doc put me on Celebrex for 30 days and ordered PT for 4 weeks.  He also talked about surgery but is not if I will need it at this point.  Gym buddies have had the shoulder surgery and stated that the shoulder is never the same, some say it is better and some say that you should not get the surgery.  According to the doc the injury has been there for years..... So Trab, since you are the resident shoulder abuse specialist, any thoughts?  Recuperation time from surgery?  By the way, the pain is not really the issue for me....It's the ability to do the exercises I've been doing over the last 30 years.....

Fortunatly, my issues have resolved..

And Im NOt currently beating them.
I'd avoid cutting. Freak fest is a surgeon and also advise do all else possible first.
Dr thats in a hurry to cut is bad news IMO.

There was a thread by SamoanIrishman about this issue a short time ago where Freak put his opinion.
I'd look it up. He's a ortho surgeon. Im a Painter/ sheetrocker Biz owner. 

[Arnold jr]

Well xrays show a "level 3" bone spur causing an Impingement in my left shoulder....MRI today.  Doc put me on Celebrex for 30 days and ordered PT for 4 weeks.  He also talked about surgery but is not if I will need it at this point.  Gym buddies have had the shoulder surgery and stated that the shoulder is never the same, some say it is better and some say that you should not get the surgery.  According to the doc the injury has been there for years..... So Trab, since you are the resident shoulder abuse specialist, any thoughts?  Recuperation time from surgery?  By the way, the pain is not really the issue for me....It's the ability to do the exercises I've been doing over the last 30 years.....

Yep, bone spurs...I've been dealing with these on my left shoulder for a few yrs now. When they first started bothering me, it got to the point where the pain was so bad I couldn't train chest or shoulders, but in time I've learned how to deal with the pain, but more importantly how to lift around it with out agitating it more.

For example, BB military, I use to be anal about dropping the bar all the way down to my chest and pressing back up...this is BS IMO and prob added to my shoulder problems...these days i go just below 90' which puts the bar just below my chin.

Anyway, little things like what I just said about BB press can make a big difference. But just the same, I fell your pain.

[trab]

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=168005.0

Here, Found it. 

[Fulgorre]

There is SO much UG steroid floating around its nearly impossible to tell whats what...
Id stick w/ the Deca from the USDA inspected lab, you could shoot 4cc of their 400mg/ml oil w/ out a injection issue.

Ive not used EQ, but it dont have the reputation of deca for your wants. Its known for hunger, vascularity, and
Erythropoiesis (boosting Red Blood cell count) more than the average steroid.

In regards to EQ, in my experience you have to take about 600mg per week minimum to see any effect.  I believe it works but in my case just need so more than test.  And trab is right...the hunger part is real

[johnnytosh]

LR3-IGF1  is the best compound available for shoulder injury, hands down.