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[BodyMachine]

I'm feeling really really crapy. Headackes, slight disorentation, loss of appetite. I think Im done. It has been two weeks dbol 30-40 & test500. Should I start Nolva? How much?

[Rimbaud]

Try dropping the dbol & continuing with the Test. Dbol also gives me headaches.

[Overload]

As Rim said, drop the Dbol and get your blood pressure checked.

How's your diet? are you doing any cardio? do you take any prescription medications?

[trab]

What kind of Test? if its not a issue here.
PM me.
Lots this UG aint fit for livestock.

Test should have you feeling like superman.    I love the stuff.
Somthing aint right.

The "Dbol" could be Methyl. Raging Boners off it?

I'd dump the orals and reduce to half for a week 1st  if stoping.

Are you getting issues at the shot sites? Fever? Red shot spots?

If the shots are big red areas, Id stop them immediatly. Where you jabing?
Leg shots are nasty for many guys.

[BodyMachine]

Diet was in check. 5-6 meals, lots of good carbs, oatmeal, brown rice, yellow/red potatoes, maybe a need for bit more protien, try to get red meat in or chicken breasts a day and some whey protein after a work out, plus a can of tuna. Today diet sucked, was on the road the whole day, brought clean food, just not enough.

I was feeling great two days ago, beast in the gym too.

I donno. Right now I feel a bit dizzy, disoriented, and disconnected. Sleep hasn't been great overall.

I cut the dbol all together today. Half life was so short I figured tappering wouldn't make a difference.

Trab, schering T-E. Anabol "pink" hexagons by British Dispensary. No redness, pains other then site sorness.

You guys think the aromatisation of the Test to Estrogen is the culprit? God I'm worried. I just want to feel good again.

 

[Arnold jr]

Diet was in check. 5-6 meals, lots of good carbs, oatmeal, brown rice, yellow/red potatoes, maybe a need for bit more protien, try to get red meat in or chicken breasts a day and some whey protein after a work out, plus a can of tuna. Today diet sucked, was on the road the whole day, brought clean food, just not enough.

I was feeling great two days ago, beast in the gym too.

I donno. Right now I feel a bit dizzy, disoriented, and disconnected. Sleep hasn't been great overall.

I cut the dbol all together today. Half life was so short I figured tappering wouldn't make a difference.

Trab, schering T-E. Anabol "pink" hexagons by British Dispensary. No redness, pains other then site sorness.

You guys think the aromatisation of the Test to Estrogen is the culprit? God I'm worried. I just want to feel good again.

 

If it was the AAS that led to you feeling bad, then I'd be willing to be that once the dbol completely clears your system that you'll be good to go...if that's the case, you should notice a difference by tomorrow.

If it's not the AAS, I do wonder if it's something in your diet...headaches & slight disorientation kind of sounds like blood sugar problems. If that's the culprit then it should be easy to fix by tweaking your diet. I'm going to sound like a broken record but lot's of good fats and moderate carbs seem to be the best way to control this IMO.

BTW, I don't think there is any need to be worried. You haven't told us anything that is really all that out of the norm.

[trab]

Schering ampules? and pinks . Wow, I feel like a million bucks on them.

I bet it was mainly the Dbol.
I remenber that at first Deca used to make me feel serious low blood sugar.
Suddenly shaking hungry. It Dont do it anymore.

I think you'll feel fine after the Dbol clears in a day or so.

Do you have any Nolva etc if you develop some rebound type estrogen issues?
Even a short blast like that can do it. Actually maybee even a better chance.
Up.. down.. up ...

AAS can make harder to sleep. esp Dbol for me.

[BodyMachine]

Thank you for your help guys. My heart was racing as I went to bed last night. Head was throbbing too. I hope I feel better today. So far a bit of an improvement.

I do have nolva, no adex. Don't know if it would be a good idea to go on 10mg nolva to see what it does? Maybe see how I feel today and get back to you guys. Definitly feel weak as shit though. Taking another day off from the gym.

[Arnold jr]

Thank you for your help guys. My heart was racing as I went to bed last night. Head was throbbing too. I hope I feel better today. So far a bit of an improvement.

I do have nolva, no adex. Don't know if it would be a good idea to go on 10mg nolva to see what it does? Maybe see how I feel today and get back to you guys. Definitly feel weak as shit though. Taking another day off from the gym.

OK another thought, maybe you just got sick, nothing to do with the gear...after all, people do get sick lol!

[steveeray]

OK another thought, maybe you just got sick, nothing to do with the gear...after all, people do get sick lol!

YEP, TEST FLU or it is not a bad idea to walk into an ER and say nothing about anything and say. HEY, i dont feel well.
Also if you are working in the heat all the time, not good.
Just some idea's.
I cant give much advice since i dont take them and never have   

[BodyMachine]

OK another thought, maybe you just got sick, nothing to do with the gear...after all, people do get sick lol!

I don't know AJ. Never felt like this before. 30mg at 4:30pm, was fine. Added another 10mg at 7:00pm and that night I started to deteriorate. At 10pm headache and felt shity, went to bed. Woke up at 3:30am, and was extremly scared, headache, disoriened, disconnected, depressed. Next day felt like ass, weak and many of the above symptoms, didn't take any dbol that day (yesterday), nor today. I don't think it mixes well with me.

[steveeray]

I don't know AJ. Never felt like this before. 30mg at 4:30pm, was fine. Added another 10mg at 7:00pm and that night I started to deteriorate. At 10pm headache and felt shity, went to bed. Woke up at 3:30am, and was extremly scared, headache, disoriened, disconnected, depressed. Next day felt like ass, weak and many of the above symptoms, didn't take any dbol that day (yesterday), nor today. I don't think it mixes well with me.

Anabolics are different with people. It takes some time to get the cycle that will fit you.
Honestly, if the Dbol you think is the problem. TWING off of it 
INSIDE JOKE
Anyway, just wing off of it and do the rest.
Someone with more experience can chime in.

[trab]

I don't know AJ. Never felt like this before. 30mg at 4:30pm, was fine. Added another 10mg at 7:00pm and that night I started to deteriorate. At 10pm headache and felt shity, went to bed. Woke up at 3:30am, and was extremly scared, headache, disoriened, disconnected, depressed. Next day felt like ass, weak and many of the above symptoms, didn't take any dbol that day (yesterday), nor today. I don't think it mixes well with me.

Thats too much at once! (30mg) 50mg made my heart race like jogging.
I love the stuff, but not 6 at once. Then 2 more in couple hrs.

Patince. Takes time.
I bet if you wait a week and take 5-10mg  1 1/2 hre preworkout, feel great. 

[BodyMachine]

Sorry I wasn't clear. I took the 30mg spread out. 10:30am, 1:30pm, 4:30pm, then 10mg more at 7:00pm for a total of 40mg. Started feeling better today, but now have a slight headache and disconnection feeling.

[Arnold jr]

I don't know AJ. Never felt like this before. 30mg at 4:30pm, was fine. Added another 10mg at 7:00pm and that night I started to deteriorate. At 10pm headache and felt shity, went to bed. Woke up at 3:30am, and was extremly scared, headache, disoriened, disconnected, depressed. Next day felt like ass, weak and many of the above symptoms, didn't take any dbol that day (yesterday), nor today. I don't think it mixes well with me.

Dbol always makes me feel extremely lethargic but at the same time it does not make me feel week and I've never heard anyone else say that either. It really could be you just got sick at the same time you started all this...maybe. If you do react negatively with Dbol like I do, then it could be that but it seems your side effects are really severe...this would make me wonder a lot about the dbol you're taking...meaning I wonder if it is really what it's supposed to be?

Personally, I doubt if I'd ever trust another UGL ever again.

[trab]

Sound like drol...

[BodyMachine]

It wasn't UG, supposedly. Last night I felt "normal" when I was watching a movie with friends. Today, I feel dazed. The only day I felt weak was the the day I really felt these symptoms, before that I felt great. Did chest today and was stronger then ever, in fact beat my personal best with reps! But I feel dazed and disconnected. If it is estrogen, how  much nolva should I try to see how I feel? How often  too?

[wes mantooth]

It wasn't UG, supposedly. Last night I felt "normal" when I was watching a movie with friends. Today, I feel dazed. The only day I felt weak was the the day I really felt these symptoms, before that I felt great. Did chest today and was stronger then ever, in fact beat my personal best with reps! But I feel dazed and disconnected. If it is estrogen, how  much nolva should I try to see how I feel? How often  too?

this is your 3rd week of a cycle correct?

so far you have said you feel "dazed, disconnected, dizzy, disoriented, heart racing, head throbbing, weak, depressed, shitty, and scared,"



im not breaking your balls, but is there something else going on? do you have lyme disease or something. ive never heard of all those symptoms from any anabolic in my life. is this your first cycle? could this be a placebo effect?

have you gone to the doctor? any other medications that you have stopped....lexapro, welbutren??? have you ever had a panic attack before? recent break up? guilt or regret from something else?

[BodyMachine]

this is your 3rd week of a cycle correct?

so far you have said you feel "dazed, disconnected, dizzy, disoriented, heart racing, head throbbing, weak, depressed, shitty, and scared,"



im not breaking your balls, but is there something else going on? do you have lyme disease or something. ive never heard of all those symptoms from any anabolic in my life. is this your first cycle? could this be a placebo effect?

have you gone to the doctor? any other medications that you have stopped....lexapro, welbutren??? have you ever had a panic attack before? recent break up? guilt or regret from something else?

Yes it is my first. This is my 3rd week. I don't do any drugs or took any other meds, don't even drink. I don't think it is placebo because the feeling is real, from the headaches to the disorientation/disconnection. No recent break ups, 10 months or so was last one. Stress, yes, plenty. Don't know what else to say. Going to try to see a dr next week.

[Arnold jr]

Yes it is my first. This is my 3rd week. I don't do any drugs or took any other meds, don't even drink. I don't think it is placebo because the feeling is real, from the headaches to the disorientation/disconnection. No recent break ups, 10 months or so was last one. Stress, yes, plenty. Don't know what else to say. Going to try to see a dr next week.

So it's been about 36-48hrs since you stopped the dbol, correct? Are you still feeling just as bad as you were, any improvement at all?

I just can't imagine that your test could be making you feel this way, unless it's a bad batch full of who knows what. That said, you do hear of horror stories of guys who've reacted to test negatively and had horrible side effects, but personally I've never known anyone and the stories I've heard were just that, stories.

[BodyMachine]

So it's been about 36-48hrs since you stopped the dbol, correct? Are you still feeling just as bad as you were, any improvement at all?

I just can't imagine that your test could be making you feel this way, unless it's a bad batch full of who knows what. That said, you do hear of horror stories of guys who've reacted to test negatively and had horrible side effects, but personally I've never known anyone and the stories I've heard were just that, stories.

Didn't take any dbol thursday through today, so 36 hours. Funny, overall I feel an improvement but have some highs and lows. For example, thursday (first day I stopped), I felt terrible the whole day. Next day (friday) I felt better but had a headache in the morning but by evening I was watching a movie with friends and I felt "normal". Today (saturday), woke up with headache on left side of my head. Headache almost went away but felt disconnected/hazy pretty bad, went to the gym anyway in hopes the adrenaline would change things. Actually did very well strength wise easily bested my self on bench press. But when I came home I still felt disconnected/hazy and no appetite. Took 10mg of Nolva and a half hour later I started feeling better. Don't know what my BP was, but heart beat was elevated and head throbbing, but at lest the disconnected/hazy feeliing went away and I got my appetite back. By this evening felt good all around. Now nearing the end of the day have a slight headache, but ok. I don't know if it is the Test converting to Estrogen and it is causing me these problems or what. FYI: The test looks legit.

[Arnold jr]

Didn't take any dbol thursday through today, so 36 hours. Funny, overall I feel an improvement but have some highs and lows. For example, thursday (first day I stopped), I felt terrible the whole day. Next day (friday) I felt better but had a headache in the morning but by evening I was watching a movie with friends and I felt "normal". Today (saturday), woke up with headache on left side of my head. Headache almost went away but felt disconnected/hazy pretty bad, went to the gym anyway in hopes the adrenaline would change things. Actually did very well strength wise easily bested my self on bench press. But when I came home I still felt disconnected/hazy and no appetite. Took 10mg of Nolva and a half hour later I started feeling better. Don't know what my BP was, but heart beat was elevated and head throbbing, but at lest the disconnected/hazy feeliing went away and I got my appetite back. By this evening felt good all around. Now nearing the end of the day have a slight headache, but ok. I don't know if it is the Test converting to Estrogen and it is causing me these problems or what. FYI: The test looks legit.

Well it sounds like you're improving and that's good. I don't think it's the test that's causing this, it's got to be some other factor IMO. If it is the dbol, I'm not sure why you'd still be dealing with it now since the half life is like 6hrs...that stuff should be long gone...but then I guess it's possible that it could have really done a number on you. Keep us updated.

[steveeray]

How you feeling.
Also i dont know if it matters but are you hitting 500mg test a day and how much EW.

Also on those Dbol's. It might be the Dbol. 40mg is a little high.
I would say it might be drol but spacing them out should not be a prob. (If mislabeled)

Feel better bro

[trab]

It sounds like how I feel on Anapolon.... (Disconnected/ Hazy etc)

Wish I could see a pic of them ampules? PM Link?

Maybe the fact you've never used any other drugs is part?
Most of us here kind of have indulged HEAVILY at sometime in our life 

The fact your strong make me think its real....

This may just pass in a few days. Ive got "Test Flu" a few times EVEN off top notch HG.
Tylenol and IB (Ibuprofen) for a couple days and then I'm closing in on being 10ft tall & bulletproof in ABOUT 3 weeks.

No fever and red swelling at the shot sites makes it sound like just a reaction. MANY MANY drugs take some time for person to adjust to. Problem is gettin thru the time it takes. Some cant ever adjust.
Thats why Drs are SO MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE PRESCRIBING SOMETHING YOUVE USED PRIOR W/ NO ISSUES..

Hope you feel better.

[BodyMachine]

How you feeling.
Also i dont know if it matters but are you hitting 500mg test a day and how much EW.

Also on those Dbol's. It might be the Dbol. 40mg is a little high.
I would say it might be drol but spacing them out should not be a prob. (If mislabeled)

Feel better bro

Thank you steveray and thank you to trab, aj, and all for your help.

Yup it was 500mg a week. one amp stot on sunday and another amp worth on wednesday.