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Mussolini

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GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« on: February 05, 2008, 08:19:32 AM »
This guy claims to be totally natural at a weight of 224 lbs and single digit bodyfat. He goes on to claim that his physique is a result of HIT training and nutrition and that he doesn't use any gear.

He also claims he can bench 450 for reps :o

Now from what I've been reading in your post, you claim (and I believe) that the maximum for a natural white guy is around 200 lbs single digit bodyfat, with Africans and Italians maximum natural stats being only slightly bigger.


Whats your opinion of this guy? Do you think he is Full of shhit?
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 08:32:57 AM »
Quote from: Mussolini on February 05, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
This guy claims to be totally natural at a weight of 224 lbs and single digit bodyfat. He goes on to claim that his physique is a result of HIT training and nutrition and that he doesn't use any gear.

He also claims he can bench 450 for reps :o

Now from what I've been reading in your post, you claim (and I believe) that the maximum for a natural white guy is around 200 lbs single digit bodyfat, with Africans and Italians maximum natural stats being only slightly bigger.


Whats your opinion of this guy? Do you think he is Full of shhit?





Dude,did you notice the photoshop.look at the inside of the left forearm,nice shadow!
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 08:34:20 AM »
he looks fucking short, whats the point of having a good physique like that and youre a midget.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 08:34:49 AM »
Quote from: Mars on February 05, 2008, 08:34:20 AM
he looks fucking short, whats the point of having a good physique like that and youre a midget.

compensation.
he's still a midget though.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 08:37:32 AM »
Quote from: CalvinH on February 05, 2008, 08:32:57 AM




Dude,did you notice the photoshop.look at the inside of the left forearm,nice shadow!

nah Picture was taken with black Background cut out and than pasted on that picture.
The cutout was just shit.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 08:58:16 AM »
he cant grow tallness.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 09:01:11 AM »
dude looks great but no way on earth is he natural and no fuccking way does he push 450 for reps.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 09:03:11 AM »
Quote from: Mars on February 05, 2008, 08:58:16 AM
he cant grow tallness.

hahaha and you know it's pissing him off, you walking beside him and he looks at you...
YOU know he is thinking... god damit I wish I was taller :D :D :D
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 09:04:04 AM »
Quote from: The Squadfather on February 05, 2008, 09:01:11 AM
dude looks great but no way on earth is he natural and no fuccking way does he push 450 for reps.

If he's 225 he's not natural.  I think he looks less than 225 though. In that case could be natural.

Agreed no way does that guy hit 450, not for reps and not even 1x, or even a half rep.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 09:06:52 AM »
Quote from: Stark on February 05, 2008, 08:37:32 AM
nah Picture was taken with black Background cut out and than pasted on that picture.
The cutout was just shit.



So that how that works.thanks :)
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 09:07:14 AM »
Quote from: XFACTOR on February 05, 2008, 09:04:04 AM
If he's 225 he's not natural.  I think he looks less than 225 though. In that case could be natural.

Agreed no way does that guy hit 450, not for reps and not even 1x, or even a half rep.
i agree totally, i ain't gonna hate though the guy does look good.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 09:23:51 AM »
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the maximum for a natural white guy is around 200 lbs single digit bodyfat, with Africans and Italians maximum natural stats being only slightly bigger.

This is the first time I have heard this about Italians, is this true?
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 09:27:05 AM »
that is Marcus from Mentzer's training videos..

that bicep training sequence was the funniest part..check it out if you get a chance..he looked a lot different then

I wonder if he still does HIT training?
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 09:29:46 AM »
Quote from: SteelePegasus on February 05, 2008, 09:27:05 AM
that is Marcus from Mentzer's training videos..

that bicep training sequence was the funniest part..check it out if you get a chance..he looked a lot different then

I wonder if he still does HIT training?

he just started posting about it on the training board, he still does it from what I understand.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 09:34:46 AM »
He had gyno surgery due to steroid usage. Not a natural. He even admitted it on the "natty" board.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008, 09:39:36 AM »
unlike some people he is not running around claiming to be the best natty that ever walked the earth

I don't care if he uses..what ever he using and doing it is obviously working, more power to him

he could probably hit 405 for 2 in the offseason..
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 11:54:16 AM »
Quote from: SteelePegasus on February 05, 2008, 09:39:36 AM
unlike some people he is not running around claiming to be the best natty that ever walked the earth

I don't care if he uses..what ever he using and doing it is obviously working, more power to him

he could probably hit 405 for 2 in the offseason..

You can't be serious? He can even budge 400lbs.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2008, 12:10:58 PM »
Quote from: Mussolini on February 05, 2008, 08:19:32 AM
This guy claims to be totally natural at a weight of 224 lbs and single digit bodyfat. He goes on to claim that his physique is a result of HIT training and nutrition and that he doesn't use any gear.

He also claims he can bench 450 for reps :o

Now from what I've been reading in your post, you claim (and I believe) that the maximum for a natural white guy is around 200 lbs single digit bodyfat, with Africans and Italians maximum natural stats being only slightly bigger.


Whats your opinion of this guy? Do you think he is Full of shhit?

He admitted to using roids before.

That makes him "clean", but not a natural.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 12:18:01 PM »
Not natural.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 12:52:42 PM »
He is in really good condition, it hurts a lot to get to that condition.

I don't see why he couldn't bench 450? Everyone has different strength levels, when i was younger i did some big lifts on deads and squats which i would never post here because i'd be called a liar but i look better now and don't try and lift those weights anymore. Some people are stronger than others.

There are some impressive natural physiques out there, gh15 is always bang on the money but when it comes to someone being natural he can't believe it and they have to be using because he sells to everyone so everyone must be using. I have seen guys i know are clean and he would say they are on all kinds of stuff, so his opinion on this guy is going to be he is juicing whether he is or not.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008, 01:01:47 PM »
Quote from: musclehedz on February 05, 2008, 09:34:46 AM
He had gyno surgery due to steroid usage. Not a natural. He even admitted it on the "natty" board.
Yeah, I forgot I asked him about that  :D
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=196794.0

I don't recall him admitting any steroid use back then.

Of course he still uses. Tim Fogarty should take a look at that thread and ask him about the legitimacy of the drug tests in Musclemania.  :D
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008, 01:08:52 PM »
Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 05, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
Tim Fogarty should take a look at that thread and ask him about the legitimacy of the drug tests in Musclemania.  :D

I've meet Markus.   He doesn't claim to be lifetime natural.
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2008, 01:10:09 PM »
Quote from: timfogarty on February 05, 2008, 01:08:52 PM
I've meet Markus.   He doesn't claim to be lifetime natural.


judging from his pics he was quite the heavy juicer in the 90s.

He shouldn't call himself natural, he's clean at best.
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Noel Fuller

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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2008, 01:11:18 PM »
7% bodyfat in that pic
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Re: GH15, do you believe this clown is natural?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2008, 01:18:28 PM »
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