Author Topic: Philosophical question...  (Read 4019 times)

Cleanest Natural

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 28661
  • Diet first, all else second
Philosophical question...
« on: March 02, 2008, 03:06:49 AM »
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

Hugo Chavez

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 31865
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 03:14:58 AM »
easy, why does man want to find out what is on the other side of the hill, of the valley, of the mountain, across the sea, on another world?  It's human nature.  The other part is just the primative/natural male.

JasonH

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11704
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 03:51:26 AM »
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

Good question.

I think it might be because we are striving for an unattainable masculine ideal which we perceive as being missing from our lives. On a behavioural level it could be a lack of love and affection received in childhood - especially from our fathers. On a scientific/biological level, it may be because we all have a natural testosterone imbalance which makes us want to be superhuman.

Who knows?

muscularny

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3042
  • Training
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 04:01:56 AM »
I think most guys when they start out say they are at 5'10 150 they say all I want is to get to 175lbs and ill be happy most say start out with 13 inch arms and say if I get to 16 ill be happy then once at 16 you want 18 etc etc then its a never ending chase.

I think everyone who is into bodybuilding needs to really remember, there will always be someone bigger then you so just sit down and think on exactly what size will be good for you and what size you will be able to maintain and get to without risking your health and sanity and screwing up everyone around you.

There is no dount when it comes to women muscle is better than no muscle but seriously did you ever stop and listen to women when they talk about a guy they dated or a coworker and how hes muscular then she shows you his photo and hes maybe 170lbs with cuts, well guess what if you are 5'10 and 185lbs with nice decent definition you might not be considered big if some dude sees you but for most women they will find your body at least very fit and healthy looking.

I think we get cought up in this chase that land many people in the hospital and screw up many peoples relationships, nothing is better then being at a size and condition that you can maintain and look good at instead of the i need to be bigger and bigger mindset.

There is no doubt that bigorexia is a real mental condition, some guys with 20inch arms 250lbs really are convinced they are tiny

FrenchFrie

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 397
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 04:02:11 AM »
Good question.

I think it might be because we are striving for an unattainable masculine ideal which we perceive as being missing from our lives. On a behavioural level it could be a lack of love and affection received in childhood - especially from our fathers. On a scientific/biological level, it may be because we all have a natural testosterone imbalance which makes us want to be superhuman.

Who knows?
yeah u pretty summed it all here.

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 04:43:08 AM »
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?

You answered your own question. It's the ego, that's all.
Underlying is of course the only motive that really drives us: we want to be happy and loved.

KillerMonk

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1266
  • Future President Of USA
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 04:51:07 AM »
A large part being desirable of the opposite sex or in some cases the same sex.The only problem is becoming narsccistic.
Arnold For President 2012.2016

Deicide

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22921
  • Reapers...
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 04:52:44 AM »
You answered your own question. It's the ego, that's all.
Underlying is of course the only motive that really drives us: we want to be happy and loved.

Propagation of DNA. That's all. 'Happiness' and being 'loved' are merely means to that end.
I hate the State.

FullROM

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 733
  • GetBig
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 04:55:44 AM »
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

haha meltdown

Translation: My muscles will not grow..

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 05:11:10 AM »
Propagation of DNA. That's all. 'Happiness' and being 'loved' are merely means to that end.

Reductionist.

 ;D

Deicide

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22921
  • Reapers...
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 05:12:52 AM »
Reductionist.

 ;D

When have I denied that I am a reductionist? I have not; I am a reductionist.
I hate the State.

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 05:15:30 AM »
When have I denied that I am a reductionist? I have not; I am a reductionist.

I know, I know, I was just messing with ya.

Deadpool

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14027
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2008, 05:19:12 AM »
bodybuilding is the illusion of the alpha male (and alpha bitch), a throwback to the beginnings of civilization when the physical was of primary importance, and a narcissistic quest to become cartoonlike, ever striving for perfection in a culture that glorifies youth...sexual desirablity is a measure of worth and a commercial marketing tool that becomes a means to an end, and the end justifies the means.
X

Deicide

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22921
  • Reapers...
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2008, 05:19:12 AM »
I know, I know, I was just messing with ya.

Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(
I hate the State.

Deadpool

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14027
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 05:21:37 AM »
Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(
X

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2008, 05:23:02 AM »
Deicide speilt den zornigen Tuerken: Hey, Alta, willst Du Dich mit mir anlegen? Isch mache Disch fertisch!  >:(

Was willst du Alde', isch mach disch Kickbox!

Monster81

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2261
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2008, 05:23:09 AM »
... Why do we feel the need to TRAUMATIZE our muscles to make them BIGGER, in order to gain ADMIRATION from males and females to gratify our own EGO ?
.......WHY keeping our bodies filled with exogenous substances in order to force the human body to achieve something he was not designed for ?
.....WHY FUCK SO MUCH AND HARD with our body's natural ballance and natural forces within and masquerading it as a health quest ??




This is a serious question that needs some introspection as well as some knowledge of the soul/ego part of it , as well as bodybuilding knowledge ? 

an ugly bald puppetsock queer tryin' to be philosophical  ???

dr.chimps

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 28635
  • Chimpus ergo sum
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2008, 05:23:17 AM »
Reductionist.

 ;D
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.

Deadpool

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 14027
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2008, 05:24:44 AM »
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.
bodybuilding is the illusion of the alpha male (and alpha bitch), a throwback to the beginnings of civilization when the physical was of primary importance, and a narcissistic quest to become cartoonlike, ever striving for perfection in a culture that glorifies youth...sexual desirablity is a measure of worth and a commercial marketing tool that becomes a means to an end, and the end justifies the means.

kinda what I said, but mine used more flowery language
X

dr.chimps

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 28635
  • Chimpus ergo sum
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2008, 05:26:32 AM »
kinda what I said, but mine used more flowery language
And better said.

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2008, 05:29:21 AM »
Perhaps, but the older I get, the more I realize that everything(!) we do is driven by biology.

And what exactly would make you come to that conclusion?

dr.chimps

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 28635
  • Chimpus ergo sum
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2008, 05:34:46 AM »
And what exactly would make you come to that conclusion?
Hmm. Probably becasue whatever we say or do is irrelevant; the species must propagate and continue...and it does. It's nice to think we are at the top of the food chain and all intellectual and stuff, but we are just another animal on this planet driven by the same propelling need to reproduce as the next.   

wavelength

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10156
  • ~~~
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2008, 05:40:45 AM »
Hmm. Probably becasue whatever we say or do is irrelevant; the species must propagate and continue...and it does. It's nice to think we are at the top of the food chain and all intellectual and stuff, but we are just another animal on this planet driven by the same propelling need to reproduce as the next.

If procreation is what is necessary for our species to continue, wouldn't it be more appropriate then to say that procreation is the means and we are the end, not the other way round? Yes we are animals but quite obviously by recognizing that we are (something an animal is not capable of), we are also more than that.

dr.chimps

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 28635
  • Chimpus ergo sum
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2008, 06:57:52 AM »
If procreation is what is necessary for our species to continue, wouldn't it be more appropriate then to say that procreation is the means and we are the end, not the other way round? Yes we are animals but quite obviously by recognizing that we are (something an animal is not capable of), we are also more than that.
No. I see what you're saying (and I'm really not getting into metaphysicality this early) but that's just vanity.

Deicide

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22921
  • Reapers...
Re: Philosophical question...
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2008, 07:08:41 AM »
No. I see what you're saying (and I'm really not getting into metaphysicality this early) but that's just vanity.

Word doctor...agree with you... ;D
I hate the State.