For energy and pumps?? Whats best?

[ahh.. fk]

I was thinking No-explode or regular creatine mono and a decent fatburner. Any ideas?

[Markoni]

citrulline malate

[JasonH]

NO-Explode for me - I don't think I'll go back to anything else now that I've tried that. Shotgun by VPX nutrition is also good but a little more expensive.

[LatsMcGee]

Cold Fusion by legal gear,  you can get two jugs of it for the price of one NO explode and it is awesome.  Great pumps using this product.

[mass 04]

L-Arginine and caffeine.

[flexingtonsteele]

NO shotgun by vpx is probably the best pre workout supp ive ever taken!

Believe that!

[JasonH]

Cold Fusion by legal gear,  you can get two jugs of it for the price of one NO explode and it is awesome.  Great pumps using this product.

Might give that a go - I'll see if I can get hold of it in the UK.

[LatsMcGee]

NO shotgun by vpx is probably the best pre workout supp ive ever taken!

Believe that!

I used to feel that way too Flex until I got this Cold Fusion,  I think it's the best and it's really cost effective too.  DPS and BB.com are running specials on it I believe.

[iron_dawg]

NO-Explode for me - I don't think I'll go back to anything else now that I've tried that. Shotgun by VPX nutrition is also good but a little more expensive.

NO-Explode....the same here J

[QuakerOats]

red meat and Anadrol.

[tbombz]

as far as the NO products

"blast cycle" by fizogen.. (it says "thermonuclear pump agent" on it)... was fucking SICK... like 5 times no explode...   i took it when i was first starting out and i remember i used on the preacher curls a 45 plus a ten on each side...  (at the time i was using a max of a 25 per side)....

[flexingtonsteele]

red meat and Anadrol.

I believe thats also called the "breakfast of champions"

[QuakerOats]

I believe thats also called the "breakfast of champions"

honestly that's the best formula, why spend money on all this "noexplode" horse shit, just do it right.

[flexingtonsteele]

honestly that's the best formula, why spend money on all this "noexplode" horse shit, just do it right.

cant aruge with that.

[tonymctones]

as far as the NO products

"blast cycle" by fizogen.. (it says "thermonuclear pump agent" on it)... was fucking SICK... like 5 times no explode...   i took it when i was first starting out and i remember i used on the preacher curls a 45 plus a ten on each side...  (at the time i was using a max of a 25 per side)....

not to be an ass but that sounds more like a mental gain then a supplement gain.

[tbombz]

not to be an ass but that sounds more like a mental gain then a supplement gain.

isnt that the main reason to use these no products any way ?

[tonymctones]

isnt that the main reason to use these no products any way ?

lol no supposedly for energy and pumps, my point was that if you could do 45's plus a ten after taking it you could do the same thing without taking and that it was mostly mental then drink some orange juice and scream "shit i feel jacked" and go lift some big weight.

[tbombz]

lol no supposedly for energy and pumps, my point was that if you could do 45's plus a ten after taking it you could do the same thing without taking and that it was mostly mental then drink some orange juice and scream "shit i feel jacked" and go lift some big weight.

hahah i wish it was so easy. i read alot of psych books and know how important and powerful positive thinking can be so i definitely feel what your saying... but part of that has to come from somewhere and if im just drinking oj and i know its just oj then ill know that im lying t myself about feeling jacked.

[Rimbaud]

hahah i wish it was so easy. i read alot of psych books and know how important and powerful positive thinking can be so i definitely feel what your saying... but part of that has to come from somewhere and if im just drinking oj and i know its just oj then ill know that im lying t myself about feeling jacked.

It does come from somewhere...your mind. Look at the differences in how much weight/reps you can do when training alone & then with a partner.

[tbombz]

i always train alone so idk

[Rimbaud]

i always train alone so idk

As do I but you'd be surprized what you can do with a partner. The mental factor adds weight & reps - believe me.

[tonymctones]

As do I but you'd be surprized what you can do with a partner. The mental factor adds weight & reps - believe me.

very true especially if that person is stronger than you are.

[iron_dawg]

As do I but you'd be surprized what you can do with a partner. The mental factor adds weight & reps - believe me.

wish I still had a training partner...always bails when he gets a new girl

very true always wanted to push the limits with a training partner...I am very picky on who I choose
to spot me in the gym...then I feel like I am bothering peeps

[tonymctones]

wish I still had a training partner...always bails when he gets a new girl

very true always wanted to push the limits with a training partner...I am very picky on who I choose
to spot me in the gym...then I feel like I am bothering peeps

very true in all honesty even with all the benefits of having a training partner i would choose not to have one for the simple reason of consistancy. If i have training partner and they blow off a work out I will probably blow off that work out too.

LOL shit i just grab anybody to spot me in all honesty I dont give a shit...somebody will spot you ive never been turned down for a spot.

[iron_dawg]

very true in all honesty even with all the benefits of having a training partner i would choose not to have one for the simple reason of consistancy. If i have training partner and they blow off a work out I will probably blow off that work out too.

LOL shit i just grab anybody to spot me in all honesty I dont give a shit...somebody will spot you ive never been turned down for a spot.

I have never been turned down for a spot either but just saying I don't just want anyone behind me when I am squating heavy
and will they even be able to help us out feel me dawg