Slapper..I know that maybe you mean well in your heart..I don't want to make this a personal thing between us...
Of course I mean well. That goes without saying. As far as the "personal" stuff goes... I'm sorry to say it but I have no idea what you're trying to say. This is a public forum, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If reading things you do not like makes you think that it's "personal" then I can't help you there. All I can say from my part is that I harbor no ill feelings towards no one (and that includes you... just in case you ask me).
but you never really answer any question that I put to you....I ask you a question and you then deflect it by saying "..and what of this?...and what of that?...never answering my question and trying to remain very ambiguous about what your true feelings really are...and you do this because I suspect you secretly SYMPATHIZE with the suicide bombings and the aggressive posture of Hamas
WHAT?!
H-O-L-Y-S-H-I-T!
I've made my position very clear on various occasions: I do not approve of any civilian killings
on either side of the conflict. Now, just because someone does not share your point of view does not mean he/she wants to kill you.
Capisci.
...and you never ever talk about Fatah at all....like you are deliberately ignoring them..probably because they are not militant enough for you..is this true??
No, I do not talk about Fatah because I do not know enough about Fatah. Plain and simple. The same way I do not talk about Irgun or Haganah, even though these two Israeli terrorist groups are dead now (or mutated into the Mossad). I know
this.
Having said this, and pardon me for not getting in the ABSURD discussion in morally equating the radicalized military arm of Hamas to the Israeli army, I find all arguments for Israeli righteousness to be laughable. I mean, some of you (although I ignore if you got into the action) have posted some type of derogatory text about the Palestinians being dogs, not loving their kids, etc; yet I have yet to read the same thing from a Palestinian. Furthermore, if launching rockets into civilian enclaves makes you a dog, makes you inhuman, what would you consider the Israeli army's mass bombings of Palestinian civilians? A dog perhaps? And don't tell me that Israel is defending itself. That's has LOOOOONG been refuted to not be the case, outside of American and Israeli circles that is. One has only to look at the maps of the evolution of the Israeli state (territory-wise) to find out that ANY argument about Palestinians being proposed things NO ONE would reject is ludicrous. Or that there is somehow some balance, some equality in how the conflict affects both sides, when it is clear, and one has only to look at the numbers, that the death ratio between Palestinians and Israelis is now 6:1. And finally, the Israeli army is an occupying force. Occupation=attack. Preventing occupation=defense. I cannot make it any clearer. You can add all the rhetoric you want, but that is reality, not spin.
Also..Hamas never truly accepts ceasefires.....it is a ploy to gain some time to re-arm..why don't their police arrest those who are launching rockets into israel??
That is not true, Hamas did accept ceasefires on various occasions, and,
unlike Israel, THEY DO ALLOW UN INSPECTORS into their territory. The state of Israel has not complied with more than 60 UN resolutions, so pardon me if I am a it sceptical about ANYTHING they say.
tell us right now....what is your true opinion of Hamas...does Israel have a right to defend itself from Hamas?
The same way Hamas has a right to defend the Palestinian territory from Israel?
.....what is your opinion of Fatah?....what is your opinion on Yasser Arafat??....you say that no one knows what Hamas wants to do....tell me..what DO YOU want them to do?..what is your opinion? as to what they should do??...also, you say that it is irrelevant that Hamas broke the ceasefire....really?..so you are saying that Hamas cannot be taken at it's word??..
No, prior to Hamas resuming its attacks, and therefore ending the ceasefire, the Israeli state did not fullfill its obligations as an occupying power, preventing UN personnel from entering the Gaza strip (according to Israeli "opinion" because they were giving arms to Hamas... don't ask) or kidnapping humanitarian personnel from entering the strip and aleviating what was quickly becoming a
humanitarian catastrophe. ONLY when the situation became unbearable... that's when Hamas, aka "the dogs", said "fuck it".
Also you talk about how can we measure who is a barbarian???..well Hamas sends their children and even their women to die as suicide bombers...plus it hides among women and children during conflicts causing many civilian casualties.....is this not Barbaric???In the history of conflict it is always the endeavour of men to keep women and children OUT of conflict and out of harm's way....Hamas does not do this...
The Israeli army has killed more Palestinian kids and women than suicide bombers. Way more. If you measure "barbarism" by the amount of people dead, the Israeli army is way more barbaric in its methods than the suicide bombers: They seek to kill more people in a larger territory, while, indoingso, their argument is that terrorists were hiding amongst women and children, when ANY SANE MIND would use that as the reason TO NOT attack.
you ay that israel is destroying Palestine....not true....Hamas and the palestinians are destroying palestine by brainwashing their children and population to worship death and to strive towards sacrificing themselves....and the reason that Hamas is not doing suicide bombings recently is because they can no longer make it into Israel with confidence to blow themselves up since Israel has built the wall and strengthened it's defenses against these attacks
Yes, I do agree that putting children in harms way is deplorable. Anyone with a heart and a mind would tell you that. That goes without saying.
and yes I do respect you as a human being....you just need to be a little bit more objective my friend
Conditional respect. Nice. "I repect you" period would been nicer.
