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NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« on: June 22, 2009, 06:53:19 AM »



SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea reminded the U.S. on Monday that it has nuclear weapons and warned it will strike back if attacked, as a U.S. destroyer continued to trail a North Korean cargo ship suspected of carrying illicit weapons.

The Kang Nam, previously involved in weapons shipments, is the first vessel monitored under new U.N. sanctions adopted after the North's nuclear test last month. It could become a test case for interception of North Korean ships at sea - something Pyongyang has said it would consider an act of war.

President Barack Obama said the U.S. is ready to cope with "any contingencies" amid reports the North appears to be preparing for a long-range missile test planned sometime around July 4, the Independence Day holiday. Defense Secretary Robert Gates has ordered additional protections for Hawaii as a precaution.

The U.N. sanctions - punishment for an underground nuclear test North Korea conducted May 25 - firm up an earlier arms embargo against North Korea and authorize ship searches in an attempt to thwart the regime's nuclear and ballistic missile ambitions.

 
(AP) South Korean tourists read messages wishing for reunification of the two Koreas at an observation...
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The Kang Nam appeared headed to Myanmar via Singapore, the South Korean news network YTN reported Sunday, citing an unidentified intelligence source in South Korea.

Myanmar's military government, which faces an arms embargo from the United States and the European Union, reportedly has bought weapons from the North in the past.

On Monday, North Korea's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper called it "nonsense" to say the country is a threat to the U.S. The paper also warned it is prepared to strike back if attacked.

"As long as our country has become a proud nuclear power, the U.S. should take a correct look at whom it is dealing with," its said in commentary. "It would be a grave mistake for the U.S. to think it can remain unhurt if it ignites the fuse of war on the Korean peninsula."

The Rodong Sinmun also denounced Obama's recent pledge to defend and protect South Korea - even promising to keep Seoul "under the U.S. nuclear umbrella" - as an attempt to attack the North with atomic bombs.

 
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North Korea calls its nuclear program a deterrent against the U.S., which Pyongyang accuses of plotting an attack. The U.S., which has 28,500 troops in South Korea, has said it has no such intentions and no nuclear weapons on the peninsula.

But Obama said the U.S. is prepared for any North Korean provocation.

"This administration - and our military - is fully prepared for any contingencies," Obama said Friday during an interview with CBS News'"The Early Show" to be broadcast Monday.

"I don't want to speculate on hypotheticals," Obama said. "But I want ... to give assurances to the American people that the t's are crossed and the i's are dotted in terms of what might happen."

Washington is considering sending former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to China to persuade Beijing to enforce the U.N. sanctions against the North, Seoul's Chosun Ilbo newspaper said Monday, citing an unidentified high-level diplomatic source.

South Korea's Foreign Ministry said it could not confirm the report.

China is the North's biggest source of food, fuel and diplomatic support, and analysts have said the success of the U.N. sanctions depends on how aggressively Beijing implements them.

The Kang Nam left a North Korean port Wednesday and was being tracked by an American destroyer, two U.S. officials said Thursday. One official said it was uncertain what the ship was carrying but that it had been involved in weapons shipments before. Both spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss intelligence.

A senior U.S. military official told The Associated Press on Friday that the Japan-based USS John S. McCain was relatively close to the North Korean vessel but had no orders to intercept it. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The Japanese Defense Ministry said Monday it did not have firsthand information about the two ships' whereabouts.

The U.S. ship, a guided missile destroyer, is named after the grandfather and father of U.S. Sen. John McCain.

Sen. McCain said Sunday that the U.S. should board the Kang Nam even without North Korean permission if hard evidence shows it is carrying missiles or other cargo in violation of U.N. resolutions.

"I think we should board it. It's going to contribute to the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction to rogue nations that pose a direct threat to the United States," he said on CBS'"Face the Nation."

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Associated Press writer Mari Yamaguchi contributed to this report from Tokyo.


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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 06:57:32 AM »
it's this simple.  A country with proven nukes and missile that may or may not reach us, has announced their intention to again fire on a US state.

I think this is a no-brainer.  It's a declaration of war.  If China or Russia or Iran decided to fire missiles at a US state, would there be any discussion?  No, we'd retaliate.


What I can'd understand is how some leftist appeasers here, like Beach Bum for example, can just call such an action "saber rattling".  NK has nukes, has missiles, and says they're going to fire on us.  Sure, we may intercept the missiles.  But that doesn't change the fact a nuclear nation has just declared war on us. 


But I guess that's what you get when you wear those pacifist goggles.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 07:24:41 AM »
I missed where they went nuts like this under Bush. Do u honestly think there is no tie between this and Obama as president. They know he's weak and can be pushed around.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2009, 07:28:07 AM »
Do u honestly think there is no tie between this and Obama as president. They know he's weak and can be pushed around.

They're doing exactly what they did under Bush. 

I think they'd be doing it under mccain/mcpalin too.

They set off nukes in oct 2006 under Bush.  They fired missiles at hawaii on july 4 of 2006.  They're doing it again now.

Bush bribed them to cut it out.  Obama sent in warships.  Will he folow thru and put some lead in their ass?  I have no clue.  Will he pay them off with a million barrels of oil to pause their aggression for 2 years?  I sure hope not.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 07:33:26 AM »
No they're not.....they're pushing him well past Bush.   Barry can't concentrate on two issues at once, unless its spending tax money redistributing weath and destroying America. Bush continues a program started under Clinton. Bush pushed them to the table hoping China would pressure them. Under Barry there has been no pressure, they want to see how far they can push and they've gotten pretty damm far.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 07:37:00 AM »
No they're not.....they're pushing him well past Bush.   Barry can't concentrate on two issues at once, unless its spending tax money redistributing weath and destroying America. Bush continues a program started under Clinton. Bush pushed them to the table hoping China would pressure them. Under Barry there has been no pressure, they want to see how far they can push and they've gotten pretty damm far.

what has NK done under Obama that they didn't do under Bush?

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 07:56:27 AM »
The one point everyone is missing here is, Kim Jong IL, and his survival instinct. He could care less about the people of NK, but he is not going to push so far that he is in danger or being deposed or his life at risk.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 09:10:02 AM »
what has NK done under Obama that they didn't do under Bush?


Oh I don't know 240.....everything he did under Didn't happen on a weekly basis. But ur right Barry is doing great.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 09:19:57 AM »
I missed where they went nuts like this under Bush. Do u honestly think there is no tie between this and Obama as president. They know he's weak and can be pushed around.

Obama is not weak.

if anything they are taking advantage of multiple situations:  the dire situation in their own country, the passover of leadership from Kim Jung Il to his son, the two ongoing wars, the economic meltdown, the situation in Iran, etc....

I doubt it has much of anythin to do with Obama but of course you and I are both just speculating as no one knows what goes on inside that country

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 09:24:12 AM »
Obama is super weak..but beyond that I agree.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 09:25:24 AM »
who here thinks that if something had been done about NK from the get go, the "satellite" launch this would have escalated to this point?

I for one dont if something had been done then that would have sent a signal NK would have jawed and talked shit but nothing like this.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 10:21:20 AM »
US just needs to Nagasaki those morons.

China is not going to do anything. They won't dare. We owe them too much money.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2009, 10:28:10 AM »
Obama is super weak..but beyond that I agree.

I dont agree that obama is super weak, but he has his lines stretched thin right now, no doubts there. Every regime that doesnt like the USA is trying to push their luck with Obama to see how far they can get...the same happened to Kennedy remember. The North Koreans are pushing it too far if im honest with you...Obama needs to sanction their arses back to the stone age, if they try any more funny stuff then you may have to think about doing something drastic...dont really want to think what that would entail

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 10:29:55 AM »
China does not want to have to spend a nickel on feeding the refugees that will come streaming across their border. They don't want be seen by the West as having to turn away these people and they don't want to have to spend money and time "invading" nKorea to establish a buffer zone to deal with the refugee's. They really have very few alternatives other then the status quo. Barry needs to either get the UN to pay off China to assist with the refugee's and find an agreed upon area where US troops won't cross, once the regime emplodes. China does not want US troops on her border. If we can satisfy China, then nKorea is fucked.  

Steevo ...nkorea is about sanctioned out. We are rapidly running out of soft moves. Thats not barry's fault, thats the way it is.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 10:33:17 AM »
Oh I don't know 240.....everything he did under Didn't happen on a weekly basis. But ur right Barry is doing great.

If you don't know, that renders your little "barrrrrryyyyyyyy" comment irrelevant.

As much as you would like to whine and blame Obama for what NKorea is doing, you can't. 

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 10:42:31 AM »
Of course I can Lurker....I can blame Barry for eveything, u morons did, with Bush, for the last 8 years. Besides I don't blame blame Barry for nKorea...I blame him for his non action, ridiculous statements and UN pandering. I blame him for his weakness on all things foreign policy.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 10:43:49 AM »
oh boohoohoo barry....   oh boohoo barry....   barry... barry... barry...

He's in your head so far it laughable.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 10:44:35 AM »
He's the president..are u capable of making a real argument. ::)
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 10:51:08 AM »
Not if going by your rules as you conveniently forget it when reminded the same thing happened under Bush.

Nice try. 

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2009, 10:54:13 AM »
The same thing happened under Bush? They developed a bomb, caused a stir, launched a rocket. That happened over 8 years. Bush got them to dismantle a reactor, took money, and got them to the table. Everything they've done to Barry has happened over a few months. Barry has done nothing, he couldn't even get a harsh letter approved in the UN.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2009, 10:56:42 AM »
it's this simple.  A country with proven nukes and missile that may or may not reach us, has announced their intention to again fire on a US state.

I think this is a no-brainer.  It's a declaration of war.  If China or Russia or Iran decided to fire missiles at a US state, would there be any discussion?  No, we'd retaliate.


What I can'd understand is how some leftist appeasers here, like Beach Bum for example, can just call such an action "saber rattling".  NK has nukes, has missiles, and says they're going to fire on us.  Sure, we may intercept the missiles.  But that doesn't change the fact a nuclear nation has just declared war on us. 


But I guess that's what you get when you wear those pacifist goggles.

You're an idiot. But I find your trolling of Beach Bum to be at least mildly entertaining.

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2009, 10:58:26 AM »
Bush = 8 years
Obama = 6 months.

Don't worry.  Your Boss will handle things. 

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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2009, 11:04:35 AM »
Bush = 8 years
Obama = 6 months.

Don't worry.  Your Boss will handle things. 

So what's your point? The day Bush left the white house the problems ceased to be his, and the day Obama walk into the white house the problems became his.
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2009, 11:08:37 AM »
Bush = 8 years
Obama = 6 months.

Don't worry.  Your Boss will handle things. 

Yeah when...worthlesssssssss. ....weak...scared...afra id.....naive......
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Re: NKorea threatens to harm US if attacked
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2009, 11:09:46 AM »
The point is, contrary to popular whining, the entire issue isn't 100% Obama's fault.

That should be remarkably obvious to most anyone.