Dozen armed at Obama event - two with AR-15 rifles!

[240 is Back]

You gotta be shittin me...



CNN now reports that there were two men carrying assault rifles, reportedly AR-15s, outside President Obama's event in Phoenix

The Associated Press reports that there were about 12 people with guns outside the event

And that's not all.  At an event with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ), someone dropped a gun, but he had a permit and no police report was taken.

[garebear]

Just read this story and was going to start a thread. You stole my thunder.

Anyway, this is ridiculous. The spawn of Limbaugh.

I really am worried for my president. How is this going to end up?

[Bindare_Dundat]

Heres a link to a thread from some people that were there and some that came  armed.

http://www.arizonashooting.com/v3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86525&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20

From the thread.



 The reason he wasn't arrested, apart from the fact he is black, is because we called Phx.P.D. last night to inform them we were coming. We told them there would be several of us,...but left out the part about the AR-15. They assigned us a P.D. liazon officer, who met us down there and was our own personal escort the entire time. Everyone was well-behaved and all went well. We had no intention of confronting anyone. We were there for the photo op.

Chris B.,...the man of the hour,...who had the balls to volunteer to be the one to carry his AR. (Notice the Phx.P.D. and Secret Service escorts in the background over his shoulder.)

[Hugo Chavez]

The reason he wasn't arrested, apart from the fact he is black

what a stupid comment in this case.

[garebear]

Is it okay to come armed to a job interview?

[24KT]

Is it okay to come armed to a job interview?

I guess it depends on the job you're applying for doesn't it? 

[The True Adonis]

The black guy is an Obama supporter.

[Soul Crusher]

Just read this story and was going to start a thread. You stole my thunder.

Anyway, this is ridiculous. The spawn of Limbaugh.

I really am worried for my president. How is this going to end up?

How do you know that guy was not an SEIU guy or ACORN plant?

[The True Adonis]

How do you know that guy was not an SEIU guy or ACORN plant?

Drop the nonsense Acronyms and your Conspiracy theories.  He was simply an Obama supporter with an AR-15.


Both sides are now bringing guns.

[Soul Crusher]

Drop the nonsense Acronyms and your Conspiracy theories.  He was simply an Obama supporter with an AR-15.


Both sides are now bringing guns.

So you mean its not only militia, RW loons, CT'ers who have evil black rifles?

 

[240 is Back]

How do you know that guy was not an SEIU guy or ACORN plant?

In that case, NRA members, republicans, and libertarians need to show up with signs saying "Guns don't belong at this meeting".

This week we saw a dropped pistol, 12 guns at one meeting, and 2 rifles.  What will it be next week?  Eventually, some dickhead will handle his gun to show it off to another gun nut, a cop will tackle or shoot him, and it will become a really big deal.  

Until then, keep grabbing your gun and proudly displaying it like your cawk, town hall idiots.  Youre a real badass.  And you're part of the problem.  And when the gun legislation comes, you can rest assured you were part of causing it.

[Soul Crusher]

In that case, NRA members, republicans, and libertarians need to show up with signs saying "Guns don't belong at this meeting".

This week we saw a dropped pistol, 12 guns at one meeting, and 2 rifles.  What will it be next week?  Eventually, some dickhead will handle his gun to show it off to another gun nut, a cop will tackle or shoot him, and it will become a really big deal.  

Until then, keep grabbing your gun and proudly displaying it like your cawk, town hall idiots.  Youre a real badass.  And you're part of the problem.  And when the gun legislation comes, you can rest assured you were part of causing it.

240 - I agree and thinks it totally dumb. 

Why dont they make cardboard cut outs if they want to send a message? 

[240 is Back]

240 - I agree and thinks it totally dumb. 

Why dont they make cardboard cut outs if they want to send a message? 

great advice.

The best thing the NRA, and repubs could do would be to say that while they respect the right of all americans to carry, there is no need to pack heat with the president in attendance and 200 cops/secret service guys in the building. 

Really - you aren't in any need to defend yourself against a bad guy in a situation like that.  There are cops everywhere.  This is akin to the Black Panthers who would drive behind the cops in Cali in the 60s, in convertibles with rifles trying to intimidate the cops all day.

These people are using an intimidation tactic.  They're going to lose this right, I'm sure of that.  And watch how many high-cap, rifle-style bans are attached to the bill that eventually comes of it. 

[The True Adonis]

So you mean its not only militia, RW loons, CT'ers who have evil black rifles?

 

I personally do not see people bringing their legal guns and displaying them as a threat.  While I would never do it and I think its pointless and stupid, I think it is harmless in that at least Police and Secret Service can visually see who has the gun and the moment he even makes a wrong move he will be stopped and probably killed.  

If anything, it is purely stupid on the gun owners part to bring it because he will be shot to pieces before he can fully unholster his gun.  He is putting himself in more danger as a result.

Now if more and more people start bringing their firearms, more police and secret service will have to be hired or summoned thus increasing the cost of security greatly meaning more tax dollars spent to the tune of millions and millions.

Not really a great fiscal conservative thing to do, in brining your guns.  Ironic that they will be contributing to further government spending, yet they are railing against it.  

[loco]

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns

[The True Adonis]

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns

Security costs are impacted.  If more show up, even moreso.  You can`t be that naive to think that if 50 or 100 people showed up with guns that they would just let one secret service agent and one cop watch over all 50 or 100.

Don`t be a moron.

[big L dawg]

this has the possibility of ending very badly...wether on purpose or by accident some one will go to far..next thing you know are right to bear arms will be reduced......If I gotta give up my AK 47 because of these idiots I'm gonna be pissed.

[Hugo Chavez]

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns

that's all fine and I totally agree with that.  When I was stationed in Yuma, it was common to see people walk around with a sidearm.  I'm not going to question their right to bear arms.  But I do question the motivation, wisdom and logic and several other things behind intentionally showing up to protest the president armed.  Honestly, that's a major WTF?

[loco]

Security costs are impacted.  If more show up, even moreso.  You can`t be that naive to think that if 50 or 100 people showed up with guns that they would just let one secret service agent and one cop watch over all 50 or 100.

Don`t be a moron.

Adonis,
My entire post was a quote from the article.  Don't be a moron!

[BM OUT]

Isnt it funny that this thread started out as a rip against republicans and Limbaugh and then when it was pointed out that the guy was an Obama supporter that angle was quickly dropped.Typical left wing double talk.I guess Limbaugh now is telling libs to bring guns as well as conservatives.Maybe that guy bringing the gun listens to that filthy dyke Maddow.

[Soul Crusher]

I personally do not see people bringing their legal guns and displaying them as a threat.  While I would never do it and I think its pointless and stupid, I think it is harmless in that at least Police and Secret Service can visually see who has the gun and the moment he even makes a wrong move he will be stopped and probably killed.  

If anything, it is purely stupid on the gun owners part to bring it because he will be shot to pieces before he can fully unholster his gun.  He is putting himself in more danger as a result.

Now if more and more people start bringing their firearms, more police and secret service will have to be hired or summoned thus increasing the cost of security greatly meaning more tax dollars spent to the tune of millions and millions.

Not really a great fiscal conservative thing to do, in brining your guns.  Ironic that they will be contributing to further government spending, yet they are railing against it.  

Maybe we shoulsd bring batons and night sticks instead? 

[Soul Crusher]

this has the possibility of ending very badly...wether on purpose or by accident some one will go to far..next thing you know are right to bear arms will be reduced......If I gotta give up my AK 47 because of these idiots I'm gonna be pissed.

Hey big dawg - did you know I was self employed? 

[Hugo Chavez]

Isnt it funny that this thread started out as a rip against republicans and Limbaugh and then when it was pointed out that the guy was an Obama supporter that angle was quickly dropped.Typical left wing double talk.I guess Limbaugh now is telling libs to bring guns as well as conservatives.Maybe that guy bringing the gun listens to that filthy dyke Maddow.

Oh please   Nobody dropped anything.  Nothing changes because of that.  Where is that stated anyway?  But either way, the same WTF stands...

[big L dawg]

Hey big dawg - did you know I was self employed? 

haha...hell yea.good one.

[Soul Crusher]

haha...hell yea.good one.

No serious, I was born in a trash bin in the slums of Harlem, rose from the dead, started my own business, and wine and dine with Trump and Jay Z.   

On a serious note, anyone openly carrying to these events is just asking for trouble.