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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #125 on: October 04, 2009, 03:16:03 PM »
That look isn't going to do anything. People would think that Jones is TOO BIG. Heck, they would say the same thing about pics of Zane in his prime.



Not necessarily.

From the stories I've heard first hand....muscles never stopped Arnold from getting women.  Real women and not scary he-she looking chicks. He, like some of the good looking BB'ers that came after him infiltrated regular social circles.

Most of these guys lack Arnold's charisma...true enough, but they also lack looking human.

Kai Green is an embarrassment, Jay is huge but he looks crazy and lacks charisma, and I've said Stan McQuay and Victor are pretty decent looking...Other than that?  No.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #126 on: October 04, 2009, 03:17:17 PM »
And to add....if you don't want the "sport" getting any more "gay" than it is now...you're going to have to come back to reality because now I don't know any women or straight men that find someone smacking their ass and pulling up their thong to be the least bit appealing to watch.

It's embarrassing.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #127 on: October 04, 2009, 03:35:05 PM »
this would quickly turn into a modeling contest, not so much bodybuilding
Back in the 80s and 90s they put squared jawed men on covers with females, many bbers also do modeling, take a look at modelmayhem if you don't believe me. The more normal but desiel dudes get tons of compliments from the ladies---and these are some fine ass women!
And to add....if you don't want the "sport" getting any more "gay" than it is now...you're going to have to come back to reality because now I don't know any women or straight men that find someone smacking their ass and pulling up their thong to be the least bit appealing to watch.

It's embarrassing.
About 3 months ago I let a male co worker borrow my Phil Heath DVD. He said his girlfriend was wondering why Phil was hitching up the back of his trunks during his brb shot when he was being compared with Darrem Charles . She said it didn't look right.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #128 on: October 04, 2009, 04:32:10 PM »
Back in the 80s and 90s they put squared jawed men on covers with females, many bbers also do modeling, take a look at modelmayhem if you don't believe me. The more normal but desiel dudes get tons of compliments from the ladies---and these are some fine ass women!About 3 months ago I let a male co worker borrow my Phil Heath DVD. He said his girlfriend was wondering why Phil was hitching up the back of his trunks during his brb shot when he was being compared with Darrem Charles . She said it didn't look right.


i do agree with you and that's the look i go for myself. However, if everyone over 180lbs would turn pro, there would be a lot of pros. Now only some of those that are willing to push the extremes turn pro.
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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #129 on: October 04, 2009, 07:40:24 PM »
Not necessarily.

From the stories I've heard first hand....muscles never stopped Arnold from getting women.  Real women and not scary he-she looking chicks. He, like some of the good looking BB'ers that came after him infiltrated regular social circles.

Most of these guys lack Arnold's charisma...true enough, but they also lack looking human.

Kai Green is an embarrassment, Jay is huge but he looks crazy and lacks charisma, and I've said Stan McQuay and Victor are pretty decent looking...Other than that?  No.

Bodybuilders getting women have nothing to do with whether the public at large (women included) think bodybuilders are too big.

Shawn Ray was known for being a ladies' man, too. Yet, most people still thought his physique was too big.

Plus, you forget that, in Arnold's day, only the winner got paid at the Olympia. If the mainstream thought those bodybuilders were the ideal, in terms of physique, the attendance would have been much higher and the prize money much better.


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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2009, 09:54:44 PM »
Bodybuilders getting women have nothing to do with whether the public at large (women included) think bodybuilders are too big.

Shawn Ray was known for being a ladies' man, too. Yet, most people still thought his physique was too big.

Plus, you forget that, in Arnold's day, only the winner got paid at the Olympia. If the mainstream thought those bodybuilders were the ideal, in terms of physique, the attendance would have been much higher and the prize money much better.



No, but it's saying something that those guys could infiltrate certain circles that wouldn't necessarily be interested in BB.  Also those physiques were never the ideal per se, but it's safe to say that now the physiques have become a sideshow.

The point about women is that there was still some sex appeal in the "sport" back then.  Even Lee Haney who was a pretty big dude in his day,even commented on how women would come up to him and tell him he had a beautiful body.  Sure BB physiques don't appeal to all women, but I've rarely seen a BB with a nice face get turned down.  In fact women usually approach them.   :-X

You have to realize that contest pics in shape are not the most flattering which is why a woman will say that type of physique like Shawn's is too big.  But watch what happens in a club or when they go out.  Totally different reactions.

Now, the "sport" is totally fringe and has almost NO mainstream coverage.  Back in the day, shows would be on ESPN and Fox Sports.  Back in the 1970's or so it was even on Wide World of Sports.  Now there is no television coverage and it appeals to a minute fanbase.


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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2009, 04:15:56 PM »
I watched the O with my girlfriend and another couple. Our friends had never watched bodybuilding before and they enjoyed it. But, we all laughed and no one enjoyed the ass touching and gay dancing in Melvin's, Kai's, or Toney's routines. For aspiring bodybuilders this is a little embarrassing to watch or show to other people. I must ask the question why is it included in so many routines now? Homosexual judging? It seems to have nothing to do with the sport and is a step in the wrong direction if bodybuilding wants to become more mainstream.


Are you fucking kidding me? It has everything to do with it. Hello, oiled up, hyper-muscular men, flexing and dancing in tiny trunks for a crowd of men is not a hetero thing, now, is it? They are appealing to their target audience.


Nothing wrong with it, if that's what you're into. But please, don't try to justify to yourself as some sort of sport, when it's just a way for schmoes to get their kicks. And no, bbing WILL NEVER BE MAINSTREAM. EVER.
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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #132 on: November 18, 2009, 10:00:12 PM »
I really enjoyed watching this years Mr Olympia. It was the best one in a long time and the quality of competition was on par with that of the mid-90s. The lighting was great too.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #133 on: November 18, 2009, 10:50:05 PM »

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #134 on: November 18, 2009, 10:52:56 PM »
lol at presigeous. 

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #135 on: November 18, 2009, 10:53:52 PM »
Back in the 80s and 90s they put squared jawed men on covers with females, many bbers also do modeling, take a look at modelmayhem if you don't believe me. The more normal but desiel dudes get tons of compliments from the ladies---and these are some fine ass women!

fine ass women are easy... ill have more success on 10 different "9"'s than i would on 10 different "6"'s...   the hottest women dont realise how hot they are (most of the time), while average bitches think they are the shit.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #136 on: November 20, 2009, 11:41:44 AM »
No, but it's saying something that those guys could infiltrate certain circles that wouldn't necessarily be interested in BB.  Also those physiques were never the ideal per se, but it's safe to say that now the physiques have become a sideshow.

The point about women is that there was still some sex appeal in the "sport" back then.  Even Lee Haney who was a pretty big dude in his day,even commented on how women would come up to him and tell him he had a beautiful body.  Sure BB physiques don't appeal to all women, but I've rarely seen a BB with a nice face get turned down.  In fact women usually approach them.   :-X

You have to realize that contest pics in shape are not the most flattering which is why a woman will say that type of physique like Shawn's is too big.  But watch what happens in a club or when they go out.  Totally different reactions.

Now, the "sport" is totally fringe and has almost NO mainstream coverage.  Back in the day, shows would be on ESPN and Fox Sports.  Back in the 1970's or so it was even on Wide World of Sports.  Now there is no television coverage and it appeals to a minute fanbase.



As I mentioned earlier, the TV coverage wasn't all that great, especially on ESPN. Coverage of bodybuilding came mainly via episodes of "American Muscle". On occasion, ESPN would air a contest (the first one I saw on ESPN was the Junior USA, back in 1990). But, like American Muscle, the contest would appear in the wee hours of the morning, unless you were fortunate to catch it, during one of the few times it aired during the day. Plus, the footage would be severely edited, with the music of the competitors barely audible. And, the broadcast of the show came MONTHS after the contests went down.


The only way to get the results of a contest immediately after its conclusion was to use an ESPN 1-900 number (1-900-PUMP-IRON, I believe).

The lone exception to this was the two years that the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF) was around. For example, I found out who won the first WBF Championship on June 22, 1991, one week after the contest occured (June 15). But, that was because the results were shown on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge.

People would much rather watch footage of a contest LIVE on the web (or wait a week or two to get results and footage online), than wait 3-5 months to find out who won a show.

As for the appeal to women, I realize contest pics are quite different than off-season ones. The point is that most people in the 70s found Arnold's physique just as "disgusting" then, as people find Jay Culter's physique now.

Heck, even people TODAY find pics of Arnold, in his prime as "nasty" (i.e. the cashier who rang up my purchase of an IronMan magazine, two years ago, with The Oak on the cover).



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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #137 on: November 20, 2009, 12:30:48 PM »
As I mentioned earlier, the TV coverage wasn't all that great, especially on ESPN. Coverage of bodybuilding came mainly via episodes of "American Muscle". On occasion, ESPN would air a contest (the first one I saw on ESPN was the Junior USA, back in 1990). But, like American Muscle, the contest would appear in the wee hours of the morning, unless you were fortunate to catch it, during one of the few times it aired during the day. Plus, the footage would be severely edited, with the music of the competitors barely audible. And, the broadcast of the show came MONTHS after the contests went down.


The only way to get the results of a contest immediately after its conclusion was to use an ESPN 1-900 number (1-900-PUMP-IRON, I believe).

The lone exception to this was the two years that the World Bodybuilding Federation (WBF) was around. For example, I found out who won the first WBF Championship on June 22, 1991, one week after the contest occured (June 15). But, that was because the results were shown on WWF Superstars and Wrestling Challenge.

People would much rather watch footage of a contest LIVE on the web (or wait a week or two to get results and footage online), than wait 3-5 months to find out who won a show.

As for the appeal to women, I realize contest pics are quite different than off-season ones. The point is that most people in the 70s found Arnold's physique just as "disgusting" then, as people find Jay Culter's physique now.

Heck, even people TODAY find pics of Arnold, in his prime as "nasty" (i.e. the cashier who rang up my purchase of an IronMan magazine, two years ago, with The Oak on the cover).

a 1 900 number?  Are you serious? ???  One would have to be a pretty hardcore schmoe to do that.  ;D

I thought those 1 900 numbers were restricted to phone sex lines for guys wanting to get their jollies... on second thought... never mind.  ::)

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #138 on: November 25, 2009, 10:23:31 PM »
a 1 900 number?  Are you serious? ???  One would have to be a pretty hardcore schmoe to do that.  ;D

I thought those 1 900 numbers were restricted to phone sex lines for guys wanting to get their jollies... on second thought... never mind.  ::)

LOL!

GF/Wife: Who are you calling dear?

Schmoe: I need to find out if my favorite muscle man won his pageant.

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #139 on: November 25, 2009, 10:29:41 PM »
LOL!

GF/Wife: Who are you calling dear?

Schmoe: I need to find out if my favorite muscle man won his pageant.



And I'm willing to pay the phone charges of a 1 900 number to find out!  ::)

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2009, 10:37:17 PM »
And I'm willing to pay the phone charges of a 1 900 number to find out!  ::)
I'm embarrased to read this post. ;D

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2009, 10:39:10 PM »
I was watching it and people came round to look at a room for rent in my house. My friend took them for a tour and when they came to meet me I was parked in front of my computer watching men in thongs and they weren't quite sure what was going on  ;D

Needless to say, we never heard from them again....
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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #142 on: November 26, 2009, 02:15:18 PM »
And I'm willing to pay the phone charges of a 1 900 number to find out!  ::)
theres nothing gay about it

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #143 on: November 26, 2009, 02:30:26 PM »
And I'm willing to pay the phone charges of a 1 900 number to find out!  ::)

theres nothing gay about it

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2010, 12:12:03 PM »
 ;D

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #145 on: February 14, 2010, 12:57:39 PM »
you're seeming more and more desperate each day, bay

bumping up old threads to prove your agenda

ever hear of camraderie?

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #146 on: February 14, 2010, 02:24:48 PM »
exactly earl :D

that's what it is, camraderie....in a thong
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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #147 on: February 14, 2010, 02:26:59 PM »
exactly earl :D

that's what it is, camraderie....in a thong

Music + muscle men + thongs + posing for other men + confetti = gay.  :D

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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #148 on: February 14, 2010, 02:31:21 PM »
even the angle is gay...
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Re: Embarrassed waching the O?
« Reply #149 on: February 14, 2010, 02:31:34 PM »
Music + muscle men + thongs + posing for other men + confetti = gay.  :D

don't forget glitter and oil ;D