Defeat in Maine a harsh blow to gay-marriage drive

[Soul Crusher]

Defeat in Maine a harsh blow to gay-marriage drive
AP via Google ^ | 5 hours ago Nov 4 2009 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:11:55 AM by GonzoII
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The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage. They had Maine's governor, legislative leaders and major newspapers on their side, plus a huge edge in campaign funding. So losing a landmark referendum was a devastating blow, for activists in Maine and nationwide.

In an election that had been billed for weeks as too close to call, Maine's often unpredictable voters repealed a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.

"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote. They prevailed in many of Maine's far-flung small towns and lost by a less-than-expected margin in the state's biggest city, Portland.

"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," declared Frank Schubert, chief organizer for the winning side.

Attention will now turn to other states, including California — where Schubert was an instrumental strategist a year ago in the successful campaign to overturn cost-ordered same-sex marriage.

Gay-rights activists have been planning to go back to the ballot in California, either in 2010 or 2012, in another attempt to legalize gay marriage. But the Maine result was not the victory they had been hoping for to fire up their troops.

Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that steered substantial funds to fight gay marriage in both California and Maine, was


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[BM OUT]

people dont like fags!!!!Ive said it again and again and again.The media and the libs can try to normalise it until they are blue in the face,NO ONE LIKES FAGS!!

[shootfighter1]

Many people would support gay unions with benefits but not redefining marriage.  That's the way it should be IMO.  I'm fine with gay couples having similar rights but marriage is a definition between a man and woman and intended to help propogate the species in a balanced initial environment.

[MCWAY]

Defeat in Maine a harsh blow to gay-marriage drive
AP via Google ^ | 5 hours ago Nov 4 2009 | DAVID CRARY

Posted on Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:11:55 AM by GonzoII
________________________ ________________________ ___________________

The stars seemed aligned for supporters of gay marriage. They had Maine's governor, legislative leaders and major newspapers on their side, plus a huge edge in campaign funding. So losing a landmark referendum was a devastating blow, for activists in Maine and nationwide.

In an election that had been billed for weeks as too close to call, Maine's often unpredictable voters repealed a state law Tuesday that would have allowed same-sex couples to wed. Gay marriage has now lost in all 31 states in which it has been put to a popular vote — a trend that the gay-rights movement had believed it could end in Maine.

"Today's heartbreaking defeat unfortunately shows that lies and fear can still win at the ballot box," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

With 87 percent of the precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote. They prevailed in many of Maine's far-flung small towns and lost by a less-than-expected margin in the state's biggest city, Portland.

"The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," declared Frank Schubert, chief organizer for the winning side.

Attention will now turn to other states, including California — where Schubert was an instrumental strategist a year ago in the successful campaign to overturn cost-ordered same-sex marriage.

Gay-rights activists have been planning to go back to the ballot in California, either in 2010 or 2012, in another attempt to legalize gay marriage. But the Maine result was not the victory they had been hoping for to fire up their troops.

Brian Brown of the National Organization for Marriage, a conservative group that steered substantial funds to fight gay marriage in both California and Maine, was


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"Lies and fear" don't work 31 straight times. Someone might want to inform Ms. Carey of that. They come up with that excuse, every time they lose.

[Soul Crusher]

If the GOP runs on a truly conservative platform, anti-tax, pro-growth, pro-jobs, message in 2010, Pelosi/Reid/Obama will be sent packing for Cuba.


 

[Purge_WTF]

  Liberals can't seem to get over the fact that this country was founded upon Christian principles. The majority of Americans support traditional marriage. End of story.

[MCWAY]

If the GOP runs on a truly conservative platform, anti-tax, pro-growth, pro-jobs, message in 2010, Pelosi/Reid/Obama will be sent packing for Cuba.

Throw in the pro-life and traditional marriage items for good measures, and that should do it.

[Soul Crusher]

  Liberals can't seem to get over the fact that this country was founded upon Christian principles. The majority of Americans support traditional marriage. End of story.

I want a conservative pro-growth, economic commo sense, pro-freedom, pro-small business, pro-1st and 2nd amendment, tradional values, type of guy/gal to get up there.

  

  

[blacken700]

people dont like fags!!!!Ive said it again and again and again.The media and the libs can try to normalise it until they are blue in the face,NO ONE LIKES FAGS!!

tell us how you really feel

[Soul Crusher]

tell us how you really feel

I hope the Dems keep it up and keep pissing people off. 

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[headhuntersix]

If u run like the new gov in Virginia, then u will win. He didn't run attack ads he ran ads showing how he planned to fix things. Barry will use the same lib chicago attack politics and won't have fixed a thing. He can't run on hope and change.

[Sir Humphrey]

people dont like fags!!!!Ive said it again and again and again.The media and the libs can try to normalise it until they are blue in the face,NO ONE LIKES FAGS!!

Fags don't like you either, but I don't see them shitting on your civil rights 

[headhuntersix]

Gay marriage is not a civil right....never has been and doesn't look like it will be any time soon. 31 times....31 times...end it now. Give em civil unions and be done with it.

[Sir Humphrey]

Gay marriage is not a civil right....never has been and doesn't look like it will be any time soon. 31 times....31 times...end it now. Give em civil unions and be done with it.

You actually believe the Christo-fascist Far Right won't oppose civil unions with the same vigour they oppose gay marriage? 

[blacken700]

The Catholic Church is a powerful force in Maine so when the men in dresses who fuck little altar boys told their parishoners that gay marriage was wrong
and a sin, the rubes in the pews believed it and voted as they had been told.
 

[Sir Humphrey]

The Catholic Church is a powerful force in Maine so when the men in dresses who fuck little altar boys told their parishoners that gay marriage was wrong
and a sin, the rubes in the pews believed it and voted as they had been told.
 

So true. Gay marriage requires an all-out campaign costing the Church hundreds of millions, but pedophile priests? Just transfer them to another parish. Good to know they have their priorities figured out. 

[Soul Crusher]

So true. Gay marriage requires an all-out campaign costing the Church hundreds of millions, but pedophile priests? Just transfer them to another parish. Good to know they have their priorities figured out. 

Oh please, face the facts people dont want this shit.   In CA gay marriage went down as well. 

PEOPLE DONT WANT THIS! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[Sir Humphrey]

Oh please, face the facts people dont want this shit.   In CA gay marriage went down as well. 

PEOPLE DONT WANT THIS! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I don't like grown-up people talking to invisible friends either, but that doesn't give me the right to pass a law banning all churches and religions. 

[tonymctones]

Fags don't like you either, but I don't see them shitting on your civil rights 

nobody is shitting on anybodies civil rights maybe you should try and understand the constitution hoss.

as of right now men are all categorized in one category men...this is why you can have gays in mens locker rooms and bathrooms.

You see the govt cannot treat ppl differently but they can break ppl into seperate groups if they treat everyone in that group the same...i.e. tax brackets

by granting gays the right to marriage you have open the door to new laws pertaining to simply gay men and gay women not just men and women.

they already have the same rights as every other men or women in the US they arent being denied anything more then any other man or woman.

[tonymctones]

I don't like grown-up people talking to invisible friends either, but that doesn't give me the right to pass a law banning all churches and religions. 

again maybe you should try and understand the constitution the reason you dont have the right to pass a law that bans churches and religions is b/c that is a RIGHT GRANTED BY THE CONSTITUTION...

have you ever read the constitution humphrey? I mean honestly?

[Sir Humphrey]

nobody is shitting on anybodies civil rights maybe you should try and understand the constitution hoss.

as of right now men are all categorized in one category men...this is why you can have gays in mens locker rooms and bathrooms.

You see the govt cannot treat ppl differently but they can break ppl into seperate groups if they treat everyone in that group the same...i.e. tax brackets

by granting gays the right to marriage you have open the door to new laws pertaining to simply gay men and gay women not just men and women.

they already have the same rights as every other men or women in the US they arent being denied anything more then any other man or woman.

You mean the same constitution that used to keep black people separate from white people? The same constitution that banned interracial marriage? 

[tonymctones]

You mean the same constitution that used to keep black people separate from white people? The same constitution that banned interracial marriage? 

those were in breach of the constitution brain child and thus got overturned AGAIN you cannot discriminate between ppl but you can break them into groups if you treat each person in the same group equally.

explain to me how not allowing gays to marry breaches the constitution there hoss? im looking foreword to this response

[Sir Humphrey]

those were in breach of the constitution brain child and thus got overturned AGAIN you cannot discriminate between ppl but you can break them into groups if you treat each person in the same group equally.

explain to me how not allowing gays to marry breaches the constitution there hoss? im looking foreword to this response

So you are saying the constitutional ban on interracial marriage was in breach of the constitution? 

[tonymctones]

So you are saying the constitutional ban on interracial marriage was in breach of the constitution? 

yes b/c it was never in doubt the black men and women were still men and women and as the constitution gave men and women the right to marry they logically under the constitution had to give black men and women the right to marry whoever they wanted unless they wanted to create different classes along the lines of race.

again how is not allowing gays to marry breaching the constitution?

[tonymctones]

again how is not allowing gays to marry breaching the constitution?

Still waiting humphrey