Author Topic: Top 3 Mr Olympia's of all time (Read 8610 times)

Mr Nobody · « **on:** December 25, 2009, 11:41:19 AM »

Top 3 Mr Olympia's of all time.

1. Arnold
2. Ronnie
3. Dorrian

Now you have to take into consideration the difference in years and drug science for the years at which they won the title.

Discuss.

mogulgangi · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2009, 12:38:58 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2009, 11:41:19 AM

Top 3 Mr Olympia's of all time.

1. Arnold
2. Ronnie
3. Dorrian

Now you have to take into consideration the difference in years and drug science for the years at which they won the title.

Discuss.

oh brother

calfzilla · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:22:03 PM »

Dorian
Arnold
Haney

Wiggs · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:22:57 PM »

Ronnie
Haney
Arnold

tendonitis · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:27:21 PM »

Arnold
Ronnie
Haney

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:28:20 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on December 25, 2009, 01:22:57 PM

Ronnie
Haney
Arnold

Wiggs I call racist on your picks

Wiggs · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:30:33 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2009, 01:28:20 PM

Wiggs I call racist on your picks

I was gonna call racist on some other pics but decided to be racist myself...

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:42:38 PM »

1 Ronnie, 2 Dorian, 3 Jay

I never understood that Arnold hype. Back in the days he was one of the best, but conditioning & proportion wise he doesn't deserve a all time top 3 placing. Only reasons for his popularly I can find is the way he represented BB & his charisma.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #8 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:50:18 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on December 25, 2009, 01:42:38 PM

1 Ronnie, 2 Dorian, 3 Jay

I never understood that Arnold hype. Back in the days he was one of the best, but conditioning & proportion wise he doesn't deserve a all time top 3 placing. Only reasons for his popularly I can find is the way he represented BB & his charisma.

Plates I have to disagree, the dude was in the 70's huge ass arms and chest. I know if he was in the Mr O today in his shape then he wouldnt win but you got to consider the drug advances and such.

tendonitis · « **Reply #9 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:52:07 PM »

Arnold was farther ahead of his competition during his time than even Ronnie and Haney during theirs. That is the proper way to judge them. Few even remember who finished second to Arnold he was so far ahead of the pack.

bodybuilder1234 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:54:26 PM »

1. Easily Arnold, small waist, good muscle bellies and a near perfect physique considering his time
2. Ronnie
3. Yates!

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #11 on:** December 25, 2009, 01:57:14 PM »

Quote from: bodybuilder1234 on December 25, 2009, 01:54:26 PM

1. Easily Arnold, small waist, good muscle bellies and a near perfect physique considering his time
2. Ronnie
3. Yates!

1234 is a smart man

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #12 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:02:42 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2009, 01:50:18 PM

Plates I have to disagree, the dude was in the 70's huge ass arms and chest.

He sure had some serious guns, but his bicep/tricep development was way out of proportions. The same for his arms/legs, and waist/torso. The striations in his chest were only visable during a most muscular.

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I know if he was in the Mr O today in his shape then he wouldnt win but you got to consider the drug advances and such.

I agree that more efficient PED's are in advance for todays pro's, but -for example- Zane (no, not a typical favorite of mine) had a much better conditioning.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #13 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:07:04 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on December 25, 2009, 01:52:07 PM

Arnold was farther ahead of his competition during his time than even Ronnie and Haney during theirs. That is the proper way to judge them. Few even remember who finished second to Arnold he was so far ahead of the pack.

In case it's a all time comparison you need to compare Ronnie with Arnold, not Ronnie with Phil Heath or Arnold with Mike Mentzer

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #14 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:08:31 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on December 25, 2009, 02:07:04 PM

In case it's a all time comparison you need to compare Ronnie with Arnold, not Ronnie with Phil Heath or Arnold with Mike Mentzer

So how do we compare?

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #15 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:12:24 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2009, 02:08:31 PM

So how do we compare?

Serious question? LOL
I thought we were comparing Mr O's to decide our personal top3, but I could be wrong

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #16 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:17:32 PM »

Quote from: DroppingPlates on December 25, 2009, 02:12:24 PM

Serious question? LOL
I thought we were comparing Mr O's to decide our personal top3, but I could be wrong

Yes from your last post it seems we cant compare? I think we can but take into consideration the times of each Mr O and competion factors. So in the Arnold years he didnt have the competion of today but didnt have the drugs of today either so if we give him the drugs of today and face the competion would he win?

kyomu · « **Reply #17 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:21:41 PM »

Sincerely Arnolds physique cant beat those phsiques of Haney, Yates, Coleman, Dexter and Cutler.
If we talk about greatest, i understand that you guys include him in top 3.
But, if you include Arnold physique as top 3, seriously you dont know bbing.

tendonitis · « **Reply #18 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:26:27 PM »

If Arnold were competing today he would still be a multiple time Mr. Olympia. He would use the same drugs, advances in nutrition and equipment that are available to the guys competing today and he would crush them the same way he did the guys back in the 70s.

All things being equal Arnold would simply "will" his way to victory. What Arnold has inside that drives him can't be defeated. He simply won't allow himself to lose. It's why he's accomplished things nobody ever dreamed he could.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #19 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:27:44 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on December 25, 2009, 02:26:27 PM

If Arnold were competing today he would still be a multiple time Mr. Olympia. He would use the same drugs, advances in nutrition and equipment that are available to the guys competing today and he would crush them the same way he did the guys back in the 70s.

All things being equal Arnold would simply "will" his way to victory. What Arnold has inside that drives him can't be defeated. He simply won't allow himself to lose. It's why he's accomplished things nobody ever dreamed he could.

X2

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #20 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:30:46 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on December 25, 2009, 02:21:41 PM

Sincerely Arnolds physique cant beat those phsiques of Haney, Yates, Coleman, Dexter and Cutler.
If we talk about greatest, i understand that you guys include him in top 3.
But, if you include Arnold physique as top 3, seriously you dont know bbing.

So who is your top 3 kyomu?

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #21 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:31:06 PM »

Quote from: Mr Nobody on December 25, 2009, 02:17:32 PM

Yes from your last post it seems we cant compare?

No, I won't say that. It's just a different point of view and that's ok with me.

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I think we can but take into consideration the times of each Mr O and competion factors. So in the Arnold years he didnt have the competion of today but didnt have the drugs of today either so if we give him the drugs of today and face the competion would he win?

I see your topic more as a virtual pose down. I agree that this could be a unfair comparison because of more effective PED's, supplements, foods, gyms, knowledge and other factors these days. But hey, you were the topic starter

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #22 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:38:55 PM »

Quote from: tendonitis on December 25, 2009, 02:26:27 PM

If Arnold were competing today he would still be a multiple time Mr. Olympia. He would use the same drugs, advances in nutrition and equipment that are available to the guys competing today and he would crush them the same way he did the guys back in the 70s.

All things being equal Arnold would simply "will" his way to victory. What Arnold has inside that drives him can't be defeated. He simply won't allow himself to lose. It's why he's accomplished things nobody ever dreamed he could.

Only with much better proportions and this is much more a genetic thing.

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #23 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:43:11 PM »

Since we all agree Arnold is the best the real arguement should be who should be second, Ronnie or Dorian.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #24 on:** December 25, 2009, 02:51:20 PM »

Quote from: just_a_pilgrim on December 25, 2009, 02:43:11 PM

Since we all agree Arnold is the best the real arguement should be who should be second, Ronnie or Dorian.

Looks like Arnold inspired you with his Oliva mind war tricks