Brock Lesnar: Canadian Health Care System is from the Third World

[Soul Crusher]

...the reason Medicare has unfunded liabilities is pretty simple: demographics.

Corporate healthcare gets all the healthy people under 65; enjoys the privilege of enforcing a random 17% denial rate for catastrophic illness; doesn't cover pre-existing conditions; runs with a 30% overhead and is government subsidised with billions in dirty cash each year.

Medicare has a 3% overhead, and a 90% approval rating from customers.

What's the approval rating of private corporate coverage?


Give Medicare access to the whole market and every single corporate health insurer out there would be out of business instantly... meanwhile Medicare would suddenly be flush with premiums and could build up a proper fund once more (provided it was protected from corporate raiding this time). Also, the corporate healthcare lobby would no longer be interfering with proper government function and the billions it siphons off would then be available for other projects.

Strange to say 333386, but I think we agree... universal Medicare is the only sensible way to go.


The Luke

Other than the fact that many doctors wont even take medicare patients anymore I guess it would work. 

[The Luke]

Other than the fact that many doctors wont even take medicare patients anymore I guess it would work. 

...you seem to have a poor grasp of extrapolation.

In that scenario doctors wouldn't have any choice... if they don't take Medicare patients, they wouldn't have any patients.

But, it's nice that we agree.


The Luke

[Soul Crusher]

...you seem to have a poor grasp of extrapolation.

In that scenario doctors wouldn't have any choice... if they don't take Medicare patients, they wouldn't have any patients.

But, it's nice that we agree.


The Luke

You dont understand that under your scenario, no one in their right mind would take on 250k in debt to be what is essentially a govt employee. 

[The Luke]

You dont understand that under your scenario, no one in their right mind would take on 250k in debt to be what is essentially a govt employee. 

Here in Ireland the government pays for most of the university places based on a merit system (how you do in your highschool final exams), so med students generally qualify with little or no debt. (Same thing in most European countries).

So we get the best students, and it doesn't cost the taxpayer much (about $10,000 per student per year), because the taxpayer uses it's monopsony position (single payer) to keep college costs down. We also don't have the crazy malpractice insurance scenario which is raising costs for American healthcare consumers and lining the pockets of superfluous non-contributory non-productive tollbooth insurance companies.

So that's how we solve the problem... more big government.

Watch Michael Moore's "Sicko" for a nice example of this: he talks to British NHS doctors who seem to be doing quite well.


The Luke