Author Topic: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits  (Read 1799 times)

Eric15210

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1207
  • poor people are crazy I'm eccentric
Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« on: April 27, 2010, 11:59:52 AM »
 ;D Now Obama is concerned about deficits

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Tuesday Washington must urgently confront unpleasant truths about deficits, while the Federal Reserve chairman said failure to mop up red-ink spending would "ultimately do great damage" to the country.

Obama refused to rule out measures that would fight "exploding deficits." This signaled that politically toxic tax increases were options that could be under consideration by members of a panel he tasked with reducing federal deficits that threaten to erode Americans' standard of living.

Obama explicitly told reporters in the White House's Rose Garden that neither he nor his commission members would say what options remain viable.

"We're not playing that game. I'm not going to say what's in. I'm not going to say what's out. I want this commission to be free to do its work," said the president, flanked by Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, the two men he asked to lead efforts to reach a consensus plan for the deficit.

It's a task, though, that even members of the bipartisan fiscal commission admit is an almost impossible chore: produce a deficit no bigger than $550 billion by 2015, an amount equal to about 3 percent of the total U.S. economy. That would require deficit savings in the range of $250 billion or more.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke used the commission's first meeting as a forum to make his most urgent call yet to get the government's fiscal house in order. He warned that failing to curb federal budget deficits would damage the U.S. economy in the long run.

Bernanke again urged the White House and Congress to come up with a credible plan to reduce the nation's red ink, which hit a record $1.4 trillion last year.

Failing to do so would push interest rates higher — not only for Americans buying cars, homes and other things — but also for Uncle Sam to service its debt payments, he said.

"The path forward contains many difficult trade-offs and choices, but postponing those choices and failing to put the nation's finances on a sustainable long-run trajectory would ultimately do great damage to our economy," Bernanke said.

Budget director Peter Orszag told the panel that Democrats and Republicans must work together to tame deficit-spending habits.

"If we allow the policy positions that divide us to prevent us from taking action, the projected medium- and long-term deficits will threaten the health of our economy and the living standards our people enjoy," Orszag said. "Sustained, growing long-term deficits will increase our reliance on creditors from abroad, reduce investment in our labs, factories, and businesses, and weaken confidence in the federal government's creditworthiness."

It may be easier to ignore long-term problems, Orszag said, "but we will pay a severe price if we do."

The deficit has turned alarmingly worse since the recession that started at the end of 2007. Many projections show it never dipping below 4 percent of the economy over the next decade. Deficits that size are unsustainable, economists say. They would put upward pressure on interest rates, crowd out private investment and ultimately erode living standards.

The quickly growing national debt — the accumulation of years of annual budget deficits — today stands at a staggering $12.88 trillion and the Congressional Budget Office expects the nation to add another $1 trillion a year for another decade. The federal government itself holds a large portion of this debt, some $4.5 trillion, with much of it sitting in the Social Security Trust Fund.

The remaining $8.5 trillion is held by worldwide investors in the form of Treasury bills and bonds. China is the largest single holder of these securities.

But the options for curbing the deficit — cutting spending on popular entitlement programs and broad-based tax increases — are so politically toxic that the only way Obama and his Democratic allies controlling Congress are willing to take them on during this midterm election year is through the commission.

The most obvious solutions, higher taxes or fewer government benefits, are the most toxic — one reason the 18-member panel has instructions to deliver its recommendations after the November election.

"You're going to have to raise taxes. You're going to have to cut spending," Urban Institute President Robert Reischauer said to the panel. "It's going to have to hurt."

Even before the panel convened, however, House GOP leaders issued press releases urging it to take tax increases off the table as a deficit-closing option.

Obama said that getting the job done is "going to require the people of both parties" to put politics aside. He said he's counting on the bipartisan panel to bring an end to "an already severe fiscal crisis brought on by decades of bad fiscal habits in Washington."

The panel is co-chaired by Bowles, a former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, and Simpson, a Wyoming Republican


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/ap_on_bi_ge/us_deficit_commission
RIP Bob Probert

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41760
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 12:03:09 PM »
What a complete scam and pof this entire admn is. 

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 12:03:17 PM »
I thought Repubs were bipartisan on the healthcare bill

first they fought it and lied about it for about 8 months and then after it passed they took credit for the parts they liked

How much more bipartisan can you get?

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41760
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 12:04:36 PM »
This dirtbag Kenyan Communist pofs spents TRILLIONS and then decides says we need to curtail the deficit? 

Unreal.  Truly unreal. 

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66495
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 12:05:10 PM »
What a joke.  Spend us into oblivion then complaining about spending.  ::)

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 12:07:01 PM »
What a joke.  Spend us into oblivion then complaining about spending.  ::)

I assume you're referring to the Repubs in the Congress for the last 8 years

Eric15210

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1207
  • poor people are crazy I'm eccentric
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 12:08:48 PM »

RIP Bob Probert

tonymctones

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 26520
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 12:10:29 PM »
I thought Repubs were bipartisan on the healthcare bill

first they fought it and lied about it for about 8 months and then after it passed they took credit for the parts they liked

How much more bipartisan can you get?
well I dont know who to believe first pelosi and the messiah said and you parroted for months that the reps have no ideas, gave no ideas, and werent willing to participate...then pelosi the messiah said and you parroted that they indeed did have ideas, gave ideas and were participating...

which one was right?  ::)

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66495
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 12:21:51 PM »
well I dont know who to believe first pelosi and the messiah said and you parroted for months that the reps have no ideas, gave no ideas, and werent willing to participate...then pelosi the messiah said and you parroted that they indeed did have ideas, gave ideas and were participating...

which one was right?  ::)

you're right

we need to give the Rebubs credit for mandates .

that was their idea

BM OUT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8229
  • Getbig!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 12:22:11 PM »
I assume you're referring to the Repubs in the Congress for the last 8 years

The republicans had the congress for the last 8 years?Really?I thought they controlled it the last two years of the Bush presidency.In fact,oddly,thats exactly when the 54 consecutive months of job growth ended.

By the way,I havent heard ONE republican taking ANY credit for the health care law.I still see the polls showing 58% of Americans want it repealed.

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 12:42:29 PM »
The republicans had the congress for the last 8 years?Really?I thought they controlled it the last two years of the Bush presidency.In fact,oddly,thats exactly when the 54 consecutive months of job growth ended.

By the way,I havent heard ONE republican taking ANY credit for the health care law.I still see the polls showing 58% of Americans want it repealed.

I never heard a peep out of the Repubs when Bush was spending us into oblivion

dario73

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6467
  • Getbig!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 12:53:07 PM »
I never heard a peep out of the Repubs when Bush was spending us into oblivion

Pelosi said this administration would be the most fiscally responsible in history. Yet, it has spent more than Bush did in his last 4 years of presidency.

But, at least with Bush, we had under 6% unemployment rate, tax cuts, and no devaluation of the dollar. The increased unemployment and economic debacle came when Democrats took both houses and now the Presidency. Now, with Health Care reform (as bad as the one just passed), the future is even more bleak.

Democrats made a lot of promises and have kept none. Are you saying that they can do this because of Bush?

I am sure you complained during the Bush years, why are you not complaining now? It is WORST now then ever.

BM OUT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8229
  • Getbig!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 12:57:43 PM »
I never heard a peep out of the Repubs when Bush was spending us into oblivion

I never hear a pep from libs that Obama passed a trillion dollar  stimulus plan that has helped the counry lose 4 million jobs AFTER it passed.

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 01:07:33 PM »
I never hear a pep from libs that Obama passed a trillion dollar  stimulus plan that has helped the counry lose 4 million jobs AFTER it passed.

connect the dots for us on that statement

how did the bill help the country lose jobs and why did Repubs say the opposite?

http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/

BM OUT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8229
  • Getbig!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 01:22:54 PM »
connect the dots for us on that statement

how did the bill help the country lose jobs and why did Repubs say the opposite?

http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/

Yes,it was the stimulus that created those jobs.Right.I want you to show me ANY article where ANY republican says the stimulus created ONE job.In fact,perhaps you might show me a quote from Even Bayhe[spelling]where he said it didnt create ONE job.A total lie from a left wing site.

The stimulus passed and the country lost 4 million jobs and the only people who benefitted were filthy,lazy ass union pieces of crap.It was a democrat slush fund designed to pay off unions.

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 01:30:50 PM »
Yes,it was the stimulus that created those jobs.Right.I want you to show me ANY article where ANY republican says the stimulus created ONE job.In fact,perhaps you might show me a quote from Even Bayhe[spelling]where he said it didnt create ONE job.A total lie from a left wing site.

The stimulus passed and the country lost 4 million jobs and the only people who benefitted were filthy,lazy ass union pieces of crap.It was a democrat slush fund designed to pay off unions.

Why did so many Repubs claim it help create or save jobs?

did you check the link?

Here it is again:  http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/


GigantorX

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6381
  • GetBig's A-Team is the Light of Truth!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 01:39:52 PM »
Why did so many Repubs claim it help create or save jobs?

did you check the link?

Here it is again:  http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/



So it took taxpayer money and borrowed money to creat jobs to dig ditches, fix certain roads etc etc....so fucking what? Those jobs are history the moment the Stim. money is exhausted. The jobs are not sustainable as they were "saved and created" by taking money/borrowing money and giving it to someone else. There is ZERO wealth being created, just more hocus pocus.

Did increased demand "create" these "jobs"? Absolutely not.

Consumer Credit is still contracting
Wages are still declining or stagnant
Underemployment is still rising
Forclosures are still rising at the fastest pace in history.
Personal bankruptcies keep rising.
U.E. is STILL AT about 10%
Govt. Debt is unsustainable.
Interest rates are still at 0%
The govt. is still throwing every "stimulus" and bribe possible at the housing market and it is still in the tank.

The Stimulus Bill has done what all Stimulus plans do.....create debt, transfer money around, pay off constituencies and add little to the recovery....and there isn't even a recovery right now.

Keep showing the link and saying whatever you want...it doesn't cover over the fact that the Stimulus Bill was a total waste.

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 01:44:04 PM »
So it took taxpayer money and borrowed money to creat jobs to dig ditches, fix certain roads etc etc....so fucking what? Those jobs are history the moment the Stim. money is exhausted. The jobs are not sustainable as they were "saved and created" by taking money/borrowing money and giving it to someone else. There is ZERO wealth being created, just more hocus pocus.

Did increased demand "create" these "jobs"? Absolutely not.

Consumer Credit is still contracting
Wages are still declining or stagnant
Underemployment is still rising
Forclosures are still rising at the fastest pace in history.
Personal bankruptcies keep rising.
U.E. is STILL AT about 10%
Govt. Debt is unsustainable.
Interest rates are still at 0%
The govt. is still throwing every "stimulus" and bribe possible at the housing market and it is still in the tank.

The Stimulus Bill has done what all Stimulus plans do.....create debt, transfer money around, pay off constituencies and add little to the recovery....and there isn't even a recovery right now.

Keep showing the link and saying whatever you want...it doesn't cover over the fact that the Stimulus Bill was a total waste.

I'm not saying anything

I'm just posting what the Repubs have said

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 01:49:54 PM »
This dirtbag Kenyan Communist pofs spents TRILLIONS and then decides says we need to curtail the deficit? 

Unreal.  Truly unreal. 

you dumb ass, you act like he spent the shit on a new crib or a nice truck or some shit. Fool, if the shit wasnt fucked up, he wouldnt have had to

Mutha Fuckas kill me with this shit "Kenyan Communist" You know you make your self a retard with this brand of hyperbole...

Dude just get your point out with out cheapening your message...like when i see shit like that i totally turn away like after the first sentence.. Instead of posting shit like a rational human with out prejudging the issue by way of party lines. Your "sky is falling" rant turns off a potential reader "myself". Stop being a Tard Bro

GigantorX

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6381
  • GetBig's A-Team is the Light of Truth!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 01:54:35 PM »
I'm not saying anything

I'm just posting what the Repubs have said

Of course you weren't saying anything.... ::)

When I hear "Stimulus Bill" and "Recovery" and/or "created jobs" in the same sentence I just give that handy response.

It's just a built in reaction now.

Soul Crusher

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41760
  • Doesnt lie about lifting.
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 01:58:44 PM »
you dumb ass, you act like he spent the shit on a new crib or a nice truck or some shit. Fool, if the shit wasnt fucked up, he wouldnt have had to

Mutha Fuckas kill me with this shit "Kenyan Communist" You know you make your self a retard with this brand of hyperbole...

Dude just get your point out with out cheapening your message...like when i see shit like that i totally turn away like after the first sentence.. Instead of posting shit like a rational human with out prejudging the issue by way of party lines. Your "sky is falling" rant turns off a potential reader "myself". Stop being a Tard Bro

Maybe hearing such utter lies, bs, and garbage from this imposter elicites such responses?

BM OUT

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8229
  • Getbig!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 02:00:49 PM »
Why did so many Repubs claim it help create or save jobs?

did you check the link?

Here it is again:  http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/



I read it and they were saying money came into the district.I didnt see a single stat on there saying the money created this many jobs.Now,is this what your talking about?

When President Barack Obama comes to Charlotte today to tour Celgard, a battery-parts maker that has received $49 million in stimulus money, he's sure to tout how government money will put people to work.

He's visiting a company that hasn't yet spent any of its stimulus money, according to federal documents.

Celgard wouldn't talk Thursday about its plans or the specifics of its grant. The governor's office has said the money will help create about 300 jobs over the next five years.

Please figure out how much the 300 jobs cost when you spend 49 million?If thats the libs idea of job creation no wonder we are in the situation we are.

Option D

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17367
  • Kelly the Con Way
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2010, 02:16:54 PM »
Maybe hearing such utter lies, bs, and garbage from this imposter elicites such responses?

na...just post and discuss like a regular human man.  Your hyperbole filled posts suggest they lack truth and the substance of your post isnt in the actual issue, but its filled with idiotic catch phrases...

GigantorX

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6381
  • GetBig's A-Team is the Light of Truth!
Re: Obama urges bipartisan effort on soaring deficits
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2010, 03:07:41 PM »
I read it and they were saying money came into the district.I didnt see a single stat on there saying the money created this many jobs.Now,is this what your talking about?

When President Barack Obama comes to Charlotte today to tour Celgard, a battery-parts maker that has received $49 million in stimulus money, he's sure to tout how government money will put people to work.

He's visiting a company that hasn't yet spent any of its stimulus money, according to federal documents.

Celgard wouldn't talk Thursday about its plans or the specifics of its grant. The governor's office has said the money will help create about 300 jobs over the next five years.

Please figure out how much the 300 jobs cost when you spend 49 million?If thats the libs idea of job creation no wonder we are in the situation we are.

Good post.