Will the cause of homosexuality ever be figured out?

[Wiggs]

Just because you have certain feelings and desires doesn't mean you have to act on them. And as a representative of Team Marty31672, a proud and unapologetic Christian organization, let me remind you that God hates a fag.

God hates the sin not the sinner and let he that is without sin cast the first stone....

In addition, imagine you a hetero man were told you should never lay with a woman...Do you think your religion would stop you?

Reverend Wiggs

[Natural Man]

just for your information in animals homosexuality is common in a lot of species. Ever heard of the gay penguins couple taking care of a rock instead of an egg ? You d become an homo too if you had to live on an island with only another dude for the rest of your life with no chance of meeting any woman ever.
Prison for example makes people turn gay. We are all potential homosexuals. Just depends of the environment which shapes us. The beliefs, the stories, the toys, society's moral code...

Sometimes having a gay father repressing his own homosexuality will turn his boy into a fag.

[G.O.A.T.]

One more thing on the being raised by women/single mother, no father theory. My dad and my uncle were raised by my grandfather alone so there wasn't this female role to mimic. My dad was straight and his brother turned out to be flaming gay, so It's hard for me to beleive that one. But like I said, who knows for sure. I'm sticking with my theory, you like what you like. On another note, some were talking about when the first time you knew you liked women. I was in elementary school and was staring at this black girls little pop booty and boing, I had a hard on. I knew from that point, I liked women with bag asses and it follows me today.

[kh300]

What is it about gays that make their voices sound..well..gay?

I've know a few guys in high school who were normal,talked normal, walked normal,dressed normal.. then later on find out their now gay and they got this high pitched voice..I dont get it.

Anyways,,men are designed by nature to reproduce with women. hence the penis and the vagina. Obviously if your gay it some type of malfunction.

Trust me, I've done thousands of domestic disturbance calls. considering the small amount of gay couples, about every other call is between two male 'partners'.. Its not normal and it sure isn't healthy.

[Royalty]

Just because you have certain feelings and desires doesn't mean you have to act on them. And as a representative of Team Marty31672, a proud and unapologetic Christian organization, let me remind you that God hates a fag.

God hates the sin

God doesnt hate the person that commits the sin (over time the Creator works with people to help them clean up their lives the best they can. Jesus will allow people to make mistakes and learn from their mistakes)

(although God has pronounced judgements on people that continually sin)

[CC973]

Actually, it makes perfect sense...YOUR theory and religious conviction should be the big question mark

As I asked in my last post....when did you first discover you were straight?

lol@ religious conviction should be the big question mark.

When did I discover I was straight?  God made us that way so its part of our nature as men and women. Now someone can get turned around after they get for whatever reason and turn to homosexuality.  But like I said in the first post, if you're an atheist or agnostic then you can pretty much make it whatever you want it to be.  Thats on you.

[Natural Man]

they say fetishes are developed at a very young age when the mind is developing and absorbing everything around them

like when a baby is masturbating (yes they masturbate) they notice their mothers pantyhose and end up associating their arousal with pantyhose, creating a pantyhose fetish

maybe while a baby masturbated at one point, their same sex parent was changing in the room causing them to associate their sexual arousal with that type of appearance

just a theory

E

i believe in this. There's never smoke without a fire. Everything has an origin, is linked to something else. It s all about mimicking, copying, reproducing. Like the ducks who will follow any kind of moving object entering their visual range 3 hours after they re born, recording it as being their mother. take a look at piaget's work (constructivism theory)

[Chick]

lol@ religious conviction should be the big question mark.

When did I discover I was straight?  God made us that way so its part of our nature as men and women. Now someone can get turned around after they get for whatever reason and turn to homosexuality.  But like I said in the first post, if you're an atheist or agnostic then you can pretty much make it whatever you want it to be.  Thats on you.

Let me rephrase it for you...when did you decide you liked females?

[che]

I suppose if someone is not religious they can make homosexuality and marriage whatever they want to make it.

Personally I am religious and I find the idea that homosexuals are born that way to be ridiculous.  I'm not saying its as simple as a personal choice either.  I'm sure something happens at some point in their life that moves them to that type of behavior.  God made us all in his own likeness and image and with a certain nature and purpose.  As he did with everything else on this earth. Scripture is clear on the issue of homosexuality so to say someone is born into the world like that just doesn't make sense.

 

[pellius]

God hates the sin not the sinner and let he that is without sin cast the first stone....

In addition, imagine you a hetero man were told you should never lay with a woman...Do you think your religion would stop you?

Reverend Wiggs

Despite popular beliefs, the vast majority of Catholic priests are celibate. A politician recently announced that at 53 years old he has remained celibate because sex is only allowed within the context of marriage.

Though it seems incomprehensible in this day and age, there are still people left and are really out there that have the discipline to practice self-control and adhere and really practice their beliefs.

And no where in the Bible, or in Christianity, does it implore one to hate the sin and not the sinner. That was said by Ghandi  not Christ. It seems incongruous to profess to love someone and then condemn them to hell. Buddhism is a pacifistic belief system.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Like so many passages in the Bible: "Turn the other cheek.", "Judge not, lest ye be judged.", "Eye for an eye.", context is everything, my tranny loving friend.  

First of all, that particular passage was never included in the original text and many believe it doesn't belong in the Book of John. But no matter. Like several instances in the Bible where many tried to "trip up" or "trap" Jesus and find inconsistencies in his teaching this was one of them. If Jesus allowed the woman to be stoned the Romans would seized them for violating their law. Adultery was punishable by exile and confiscation of property. A father was permitted to kill his daughter and her partner. And a husband was allowed to kill his wife's partner only under specific circumstances but only require to divorce his wife. Remember, adultery was defined as having sex with a married woman. This gave a married man a lot of leeway. He could, and many did, have sex with unmarried women.

Now, if Jesus allowed the woman to go free he would lose face with the people for not adhering to the law of Moses. The onus was now on the people, mostly Pharisees, who were put in the dilemma of admitting some sin or that their position meant more to them than Mosaic law.

So to reiterate: God hates a fag. And if you're a fag -- he hates you, too.
 

  

[pellius]

What is it about gays that make their voices sound..well..gay?

I think that probably happens when you get rammed in the pooper a few times.

[CC973]

Let me rephrase it for you...when did you decide you liked females?

I'm saying the exact moment I (or anyone) decided I was attracted to females doesn't matter.  God created men and women with a nature and purpose to come together as a couple.  Every human being is born with that same nature but somewhere along the road some get turned around and become attracted to the same sex.

For this reason shall a MAN leave his father and mother and cleave unto his WIFE and the TWO shall become ONE flesh.
Matthew 19:6

[mr_florida]

50% of homosexual males were born that way...the remaining got sucked into it.

[Chick]

I'm saying the exact moment I (or anyone) decided I was attracted to females doesn't matter.  God created men and women with a nature and purpose to come together as a couple.  Every human being is born with that same nature but somewhere along the road some get turned around and become attracted to the same sex.

For this reason shall a MAN leave his father and mother and cleave unto his WIFE and the TWO shall become ONE flesh.
Matthew 19:6

It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males

Your religion blinds you from common sense

The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...

[chaos]

It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males

Your religion blinds you from common sense

The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...

Does that mean drug addicts have a "natural attraction to drugs" or murders have a "natural attraction" to murder? What about pedophiles Bob? Is is OK for them to have a "natural attraction" to kids?

[pellius]

Being attracted or having sexual desires for the same sex is one thing. Homosexual behavior is something else. If a person engages in homosexuality that does not mean, strictly speaking, he is gay in the sense of being attracted to the same sex. If that were the case then for some just merely going to prison changes your genetically predisposed sexual orientation.

As a behavior becomes more accepted and even encourage you're going to get more of it. There use to be a time when oral sex was considered more intimate than intercourse. Now, it's what? Third base? That's part of the gay agenda. To make fag behavior more acceptable and more common and to equate it on the same level as heterosexuality. Maybe even make it trendy, fashionable and cool to suck a cock every now and then.

Understand, to say that you don't equate homosexuality on the same level as heterosexuality is a statement on behavior, not on the person. That is to say that a fag is considered evil or not given the same civil rights. Don't be fooled by this gay marriage movement. Gays have the same rights to marriage as everyone else. As Arnold once said, "I support gay marriage as long as it's between a man and a woman." No one has the right for the government or society to recognize same sex marriage. Of course everyone has the right to marry anybody and anything they want within the context of their belief system, religious or otherwise. A friend of mine was invited to Bob Paris' wedding way back when. What they don't have the right to is to require others to recognize, embrace and even honor their unions. There is currently an active movement to be allowed to marry animals. If I love my sister and want to marry her do I have the right for society to recognize and honor that union?

That's what I liked about Hugh Hefner during much of his life. For all practical purposes he lived as a polygamous. Essentially having several women that lived with him and that he had sex with. He just did his own thing and didn't require or care if it was officially recognized or endorsed. If a couple of queers want to place house -- have at it. Just don't require the rest of us to endorse and honor it. Now you are asking for special rights. A right that has never existed in all of humanity.

[che]

I don't like to  watch lesbian porn, if I don't see a penis I'm not interested.

Am I gay  

[chaos]

I don't like to  watch lesbian porn, if I don't see a penis I'm not interested.

Am I gay  

Could be.

[JOHN MATRIX]

It doesn't matter...because it was never a decision you consciencely made....just as you had a natural attraction to females, the homosexual has a natural attraction to males

Your religion blinds you from common sense

The ultimate irony, is that for the same reasoning you believe homosexuals to "turn around" to their sexual attraction....you believe what you do as a LEARNED process, not a natural one...

chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob  

its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy   thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.

one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.

oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.

[chaos]

chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob  

its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy   thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.

one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.

oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.

So are murderers, rapists, pedos, drug addict, thieves, etc all biologically predetermined, or is it just homosexuality?

[che]

Could be.

That sucks .

[Chick]

Does that mean drug addicts have a "natural attraction to drugs" or murders have a "natural attraction" to murder? What about pedophiles Bob? Is is OK for them to have a "natural attraction" to kids?

Pretty dumb argument...were talking about sexual orientation.  No young kid is pre-disposed to taking drugs, or wanting to murder someone, or wanting to have sex with kids... No one is saying that being a pedo is OK.

[chaos]

That sucks .

All I'm sayin is.........have you seen A Clockwork Orange?

[chaos]

Pretty dumb argument...were talking about sexual orientation.  No young kid is pre-disposed to taking drugs, or wanting to murder someone, or wanting to have sex with kids... No one is saying that being a pedo is OK.

That's my point, you're saying homos are genetically wired that way, why can't the same be said for the other I listed? Because you don't approve of those actions? Your argument here is weak.

[pellius]

chick is laying the smack down on this religious nutjob  

its 100% BIOLOGICALLY DETERMINED. its not something they 'turn to', you dont 'become' gay just because your a momma's boy   thats the dumbest shit ive ever heard...it may turn you into a metrosexual or something, but a true homo is that way because his genes determined it. just like you never 'decided' you were going to like girls, they never 'decide' that they are going to like dudes it just happens.

one reason you can tell its all biological is cause there are so many fags with things like clearly effeminate bone structures and undeveloped, girl like voices among other things...when their bdies were forming they for whatever reason got their male and female traits/genes mixed up.

oh and there are gay animals as well, so that alone will tell you its not just some human behaviour decision.

How do trannies develop real tits? People say it's because of the hormones they take but how come it doesn't work on real woman that have no boobs? Also, when they take hormones to be more like a girl how come some of there have such massive cocks? Wouldn't female hormones make it shrink?

Anyone? Wiggs?