Deadlifts: with or without straps...

[the_steevo_uk]

Always without.

Likewise never used straps, I wrap some tissue paper round my hands to save my skin and give me a little more grip that's all...I dont really see the need to use straps, if the weight is too heavy for your wrists then lower the weight until they can cope, doesnt seem too hard. (Im talking to anybody that lifts less than 500 here not ronnie coleman types)

[chaos]

 Yeah, there is a limit in how strong your grip can become. When you reach a deadlifting weight around 400 lbs or so, further increases in strength become compromised if you don't wear straps because your grip doesen't become much stronger than that. To deadlift, say, 900 lbs like the World deadlifting champion without straps, you would need the gripping strength of a golden eagle.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

LOL stupidest post of the year right here. Epic bullshit.

[the_steevo_uk]

LOL stupidest post of the year right here. Epic bullshit.

gripping anything in the 400's shouldn't be too difficult for anybody natural who is serious about their lifting. For people on gear i cant see how anything in the 400's would pose much of a problem at all.

[Ursus]

A strong guy could hold onto 650+ lbs without any real training.

Getting it off the floor is a different matter.

I know a 145lb guy who rack pulled 661lbs He could 'only' deadlift 475ish

[Formerly_Owner76]

Deadlifts are dangerous and intelligent bodybuilders should never do them. You can tear muscles with this movement. Remember what Arthur Jones said, build muscle, don't demonstrate strength.

Of course beliefs are difficult to change so on one will pay heed to my advice. When you are young you feel almost invincible so scoff at warnings re injuries, etc. Too many people have torn muscles using weights that are too heavy. The deadlift does almost nothing for a physique. Train on machines and be safe.

I agree machines have their place Vince, but for functional strength, Squat and DL are kings.
If someone only trains with machines, they are just pumping separate body-parts, and they are sitting on their ass for the whole workout. Barbells/dumbbells are king, machines are nice additions. (IMO)

[CalvinH]

I've been doing deads every back workout for 2 months and I can tell a difference.

...I use straps when I get to 3 plates a side.

[Option D]

I've been doing deads every back workout for 2 months and I can tell a difference.

...I use straps when I get to 3 plates a side.

Ghey

[CalvinH]

Ghey

A,B,C,or D

[Option D]

A,B,C,or D

LMAO 

Im so fuckin easily ammused

[kiwiol]

I use straps when I want to roll Tallgerman's mom over

[suckmymuscle]

  I would really love to see any of you Supermen deadlifting 650 lbs without any straps on. I would love to see that. I am 100% confident that none of you could do it. Hell, I don't think any of you could do it even with straps on, let alone without them.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

That is probaly because our backs/legs are not strong enough to lift it.

[suckmymuscle]

That is probaly because our backs/legs are not strong enough to lift it.

  Yeah, you can't even lift it without straps, so I can't prove you wrong, right? So pointless discussion. I doubt, though, that if they gave you a bar loaded with 650 lbs and they tied your kness and you wore a belt to support your back, you would be able to hold it without straps for more than 5 seconds. I doubt it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Van_Bilderass]

That is probaly because our backs/legs are not strong enough to lift it.

You must be be able to do it? If not, pretty close, right?

But yeah, grip isn't usually the problem if done the way powerlifters do it.

[Ursus]

  Yeah, you can't even lift it without straps, so I can't prove you wrong, right? So pointless discussion. I doubt, though, that if they gave you a bar loaded with 650 lbs and they tied your kness and you wore a belt to support your back, you would be able to hold it without straps for more than 5 seconds. I doubt it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I could

[Van_Bilderass]

 Yeah, you can't even lift it without straps, so I can't prove you wrong, right? So pointless discussion. I doubt, though, that if they gave you a bar loaded with 650 lbs and they tied your kness and you wore a belt to support your back, you would be able to hold it without straps for more than 5 seconds. I doubt it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I bet Ursus could hold 650 for a minute or two, using mixed grip of course. Are you thinking of a over grip without thumb hook, because that's a completely different thing? My limit was 500lbs I think, from the floor. So basically grip strength is almost halved for me.

[Ursus]

You must be be able to do it? If not, pretty close, right?

But yeah, grip isn't usually the problem if done the way powerlifters do it.

No I am a fair bit away from it. For years my DL stagnated and then I kept getting injured. It is decent atm moving in right direction but I dont think I would be near 600lbs never mind 650.

Most people can't deadlift that weight because you can't lift it. I have never met a guy who deadlifts over even 500lbs with straps who could not lift it without.

[Ursus]

Even though it is a different type of grip used (support rather than crush) My forearms can hold much more weight than I can use to perform certain exercises.

[chaos]

I have never met a guy who deadlifts over even 500lbs with straps who could not lift it without.

I use to dead 500 for reps strapped in and I couldn't do it once without straps ......that was the last time I used straps, probably 1.5 years ago. Now I just chalk it up.

[suckmymuscle]

I could

  Prove it. Hold a bar loaded with 650 lbs for five seconds. I want to see it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Ursus]

  Prove it. Hold a bar loaded with 650 lbs for five seconds. I want to see it.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

If I train tomorrow I will do so.

[Ursus]

I use to dead 500 for reps strapped in and I couldn't do it once without straps ......that was the last time I used straps, probably 1.5 years ago. Now I just chalk it up.

Thats pretty unusual. Liquid chalk I find is the best. Thats what I use. Seems as though the bar sticks to your hands and you only need one application for a whole workout unless you are drenched in sweat.