Author Topic: So fedor lost to silva last week... (Read 19257 times)

devilsmile · « **on:** February 20, 2011, 01:13:48 AM »

So that's how you win the unstoppable lol

I guess the old 200lbs "heavy weight" era is over... it's the much heavyer guys with great sambo/jiu jitsu backround that rule now.

"He's an underweight heavyweight and he's finding that out tonight". well said.

sure he didn't knock him down but he wone.

MindSpin · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2011, 12:19:39 PM »

Fedor has been done for a long time. It's just that they kept feeding him cans....

L00n · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »

your hate is epic.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2011, 02:32:14 PM »

Fedor picked the easy opponent and got his ass handed to him by a 5-1 underdog.

That is down right embarrassing.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2011, 03:27:43 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on February 22, 2011, 02:32:14 PM

Fedor picked the easy opponent and got his ass handed to him by a 5-1 underdog.

That is down right embarrassing.

Here are some facts for you:

1. Silva outweighted Fedor by 57 lbs. That is like the difference in weight between BJ Penn and Lyoto Machida!

2. Fedor won the first round according to the judges score cards.

3. Fedor lost due to a doctor stoppage. He wasn't KOd or embarassed in the cage ok. It should have been ruled a no-contest just like in his second fight with Nogueira.

4. Fedor took on a younger and much bigger&stronger fighter and held his own against him going 1-1 on two rounds.

5. Fedor retired, so all of this doesen't matter. Let it go.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

MindSpin · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2011, 03:32:27 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on February 22, 2011, 03:27:43 PM

Here are some facts for you:

1. Silva outweighted Fedor by 57 lbs. That is like the difference in weight between BJ Penn and Lyoto Machida!

2. Fedor won the first round according to the judges score cards.

3. Fedor lost due to a doctor stoppage. He wasn't KOd or embarassed in the cage ok. It should have been ruled a no-contest just like in his second fight with Nogueira.

4. Fedor took on a younger and much bigger&stronger fighter and held his own against him going 1-1 on two rounds.

5. Fedor retired, so all of this doesen't matter. Let it go.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

He's fought bigger and stronger guys before...what's you point?

Yes, he held his own in the 1st round. In the second he was completely humiliated. All he could do was flop from his back to his stomach while getting punched.

He didn't complain when the doc stopped the fight. It was clear he'd had enough.

And, last I checked he has not retired. M1 won't let him...lol.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2011, 04:10:22 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on February 22, 2011, 03:27:43 PM

Here are some facts for you:

1. Silva outweighted Fedor by 57 lbs. That is like the difference in weight between BJ Penn and Lyoto Machida!

2. Fedor won the first round according to the judges score cards.

3. Fedor lost due to a doctor stoppage. He wasn't KOd or embarassed in the cage ok. It should have been ruled a no-contest just like in his second fight with Nogueira.

4. Fedor took on a younger and much bigger&stronger fighter and held his own against him going 1-1 on two rounds.

5. Fedor retired, so all of this doesen't matter. Let it go.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

The current #1 ranked HW in the world has no problem hanging with the 'new breed' of HW size and speed. He is about the same size as Fedor too.

Fedor won a round against a 5-1 underdog. He still got demolished in his last two fights. He has not officially retired, but he mosy likely should considering his recent performances.

Painlayer69 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:05:43 AM »

LMFAO This is so great.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2011, 07:35:26 PM »

What kind of Light heavyweight would Fedor make if he ever decided to take "getting into shape" serious?

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:31:56 AM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on February 27, 2011, 07:35:26 PM

What kind of Light heavyweight would Fedor make if he ever decided to take "getting into shape" serious?

A mediocre one at best.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2011, 03:19:55 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on February 28, 2011, 07:31:56 AM

A mediocre one at best.

all of your posts revolve around the great Fedor

you can't hate somebody that much for being "mediocre"

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MindSpin · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2011, 05:20:42 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 01, 2011, 03:19:55 PM

all of your posts revolve around the great Fedor

you can't hate somebody that much for being "mediocre"

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I can't speak for weighpshr, but I can't stand Fedor because he is an overrated fighter who allowed himself to be manipulated by his management team.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2011, 07:00:42 PM »

Quote from: Evolver on March 01, 2011, 05:20:42 PM

I can't speak for weighpshr, but I can't stand Fedor because he is an overrated fighter who allowed himself to be manipulated by his management team.

so who had a better career?

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MindSpin · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2011, 09:03:40 PM »

Better career? It depends how you define that. I would say Randy Couture. He held belts in two divisions, won some epic battles, came back from devastating losses, made a pile of money, fought the best in his divisions, never ducked a fight, was inducted into the hall of fame and he's still going.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2011, 09:43:51 PM »

oh brother

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WeightPSHR · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2011, 09:57:31 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 01, 2011, 07:00:42 PM

so who had a better career?

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I would never say anyone had the "best" career of all time, but I can think of MANY fighters who have accomplished more in the sport. Randy is one of the fighters I respect most. He has evolved, and accomplished so much in MMA, and to top it off, he's almost 50 and still fighting some of the best in the world. No other fighter in the sport has evolved like he has. That is hard to do.

Hughes, GSP, Anderson, BJ are all fighters that have had remarkable careers. Fedor was a big fish in a small pond, and showed that he has been unable to evolve with the sport. He also ducked fights that the MAJORITY of fans wanted to see. This is what really tarnished MY opinion of him.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2011, 10:24:12 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 01, 2011, 09:57:31 PM

I would never say anyone had the "best" career of all time, but I can think of MANY fighters who have accomplished more in the sport. Randy is one of the fighters I respect most. He has evolved, and accomplished so much in MMA, and to top it off, he's almost 50 and still fighting some of the best in the world. No other fighter in the sport has evolved like he has. That is hard to do.

Hughes, GSP, Anderson, BJ are all fighters that have had remarkable careers. Fedor was a big fish in a small pond, and showed that he has been unable to evolve with the sport. He also ducked fights that the MAJORITY of fans wanted to see. This is what really tarnished MY opinion of him.

Didn't Bas Rutten recently say GSP is a novice Mma fighter?

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2011, 06:19:11 AM »

Quote from: The Abdominal Snoman on March 01, 2011, 10:24:12 PM

Didn't Bas Rutten recently say GSP is a novice Mma fighter?

I never saw this, but if true, this would surely confirm that Bas has been hit in ht head too many times and has not gotten over his Benadryl and Vicodin addcition

Earl1972 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2011, 03:46:31 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on March 01, 2011, 09:57:31 PM

I would never say anyone had the "best" career of all time, but I can think of MANY fighters who have accomplished more in the sport. Randy is one of the fighters I respect most. He has evolved, and accomplished so much in MMA, and to top it off, he's almost 50 and still fighting some of the best in the world. No other fighter in the sport has evolved like he has. That is hard to do.

Hughes, GSP, Anderson, BJ are all fighters that have had remarkable careers. Fedor was a big fish in a small pond, and showed that he has been unable to evolve with the sport. He also ducked fights that the MAJORITY of fans wanted to see. This is what really tarnished MY opinion of him.

randy squeaks out decisions against brandon vera, and he had the best career

and you say that fedor was pampered, who was pampered more than randy other than brock?

could you possibly be more of a ufc ball licker?

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Geo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 02, 2011, 06:20:09 PM »

Fedor was a stud who probably let time and circumstances get the best of him before he could maximize his legacy...

nothing more nothing less !

for all anyone knows, he'll fight again and start kicking ass !

tell ya one thing,put him and Werdum back in the cage again, and I'd bet big on Fedor.

MindSpin · « **Reply #20 on:** March 02, 2011, 09:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 02, 2011, 03:46:31 PM

randy squeaks out decisions against brandon vera, and he had the best career

and you say that fedor was pampered, who was pampered more than randy other than brock?

could you possibly be more of a ufc ball licker?

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By saying Randy was pampered, you've lost all credibility. The guy fought the best LHW & HW fighters of the last 10 yrs. He didn't win them all, but he never ducked a fight.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 02, 2011, 09:45:52 PM »

Quote from: Evolver on March 02, 2011, 09:20:48 PM

By saying Randy was pampered, you've lost all credibility. The guy fought the best LHW & HW fighters of the last 10 yrs. He didn't win them all, but he never ducked a fight.

he was handed a heavyweight title fight against tim sylvia after being "retired" and handed a interim title fight with chuck

you have the nerve to say Fedor fought cans and then say that randy fought the best heavyweights? who? pedro rizzo? maruice smith? ricco rodriquez LOSS who are the great heavyweights he fought? are you including tim sylvia in that argument and than excluding him for Fedor? does an old Nog count for randy (brutal loss) but not Fedor?

he did not fight the best lhw's unless you consider chuck, vitor, and tito to be the best

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kevcat · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2011, 02:27:04 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 02, 2011, 09:45:52 PM

he was handed a heavyweight title fight against tim sylvia after being "retired" and handed a interim title fight with chuck

you have the nerve to say Fedor fought cans and then say that randy fought the best heavyweights? who? pedro rizzo? maruice smith? ricco rodriquez LOSS who are the great heavyweights he fought? are you including tim sylvia in that argument and than excluding him for Fedor? does an old Nog count for randy (brutal loss) but not Fedor?

he did not fight the best lhw's unless you consider chuck, vitor, and tito to be the best

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Excellent post

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2011, 07:03:22 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 02, 2011, 09:45:52 PM

he was handed a heavyweight title fight against tim sylvia after being "retired" and handed a interim title fight with chuck

you have the nerve to say Fedor fought cans and then say that randy fought the best heavyweights? who? pedro rizzo? maruice smith? ricco rodriquez LOSS who are the great heavyweights he fought? are you including tim sylvia in that argument and than excluding him for Fedor? does an old Nog count for randy (brutal loss) but not Fedor?

he did not fight the best lhw's unless you consider chuck, vitor, and tito to be the best

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Earl, you are missing the point here. Fedor's record and quality of opponents can be debated as can Fedor's or any other fighter. I will say it again, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to say who had the 'best' career because there are so many factors involved. It's totally subjective.

I say Randy has had one of the best careers because of his longevity, ability to evolve as a complete fighter, and the fact that at nearly 50 yrs of age, he's still a competitive fighter. He has established a respected gym to train at as well. Randy has done a ton for the sport and is a huge reason why the sport has taken off like it has.

Not to mention he has been in a couple of decent sized Hollywood films.

When you look at all he has accomplished, you'd have to be a fool to say that it's not remarkable....and to top it off, he is still fighting some of the best in the world at 50!!!! Do you realize most don't make it into their late 30's at this level?

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2011, 07:05:31 AM »

Quote from: kevcat on March 03, 2011, 02:27:04 AM

Excellent post

At the time, these were top ranked guys. If you want to compare records, many of Fedor's fights were not against top ranked guys at the time.