Author Topic: Mike Mentzer clip after Mr.O 1980 (Read 11702 times)

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #25 on:** March 26, 2011, 02:18:19 PM »

Quote from: dj181 on March 26, 2011, 02:13:51 PM

According to him, his clients (circa 97 til 2001 which was when he passed) would regularly gain 20 to 30 quality pounds over a period of 3 to 4 months.

and my excrement smells like roses

240 is Back · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2011, 05:18:12 AM »

wow. awkward!

The_Infidel · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2011, 09:36:39 PM »

Quote from: mossel on March 26, 2011, 06:02:06 AM

please read this book... and then say he's an idiot... i for sure can't...

I've read the book. I understood the book. There's a few valuable pieces of info in the book.

He's an idiot

dyslexic · « **Reply #28 on:** March 27, 2011, 09:39:21 PM »

Quote from: The_Infidel on March 27, 2011, 09:36:39 PM

I've read the book. I understood the book. There's a few valuable pieces of info in the book.

He's an idiot

Good one.

slaver · « **Reply #29 on:** March 27, 2011, 11:43:37 PM »

wow mentzer looks sick

maybe he was robbed

better than flex wheeler

NotMrAverage · « **Reply #30 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:08:51 AM »

back in those days mentzer believed in fatburners, not eating anything, and cardio....the novel lipid eraser known as meth mentzer which caused eating 0-500 kcal aday (yes from icecream or cookies, oreo was the muscular choice) tipped of with 2-4 hours running...he got away with having sweets in his prep....meth mentzer should´ve stayed instead of ephedrine....bb.s should´ve gone mainstreem if more people than mentzer would direct traffic naked...then people might have thought we carred about the enviroment atleast...atleast drinking your own piss could´ve stayed...it all went downhill when drinking others cum became the norm...bodybuilders nowadays seem insane!

dyslexic · « **Reply #31 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:54:33 AM »

Quote from: NotMrAverage on March 28, 2011, 02:08:51 AM

back in those days mentzer believed in fatburners, not eating anything, and cardio....the novel lipid eraser known as meth mentzer which caused eating 0-500 kcal aday (yes from icecream or cookies, oreo was the muscular choice) tipped of with 2-4 hours running...he got away with having sweets in his prep....meth mentzer should´ve stayed instead of ephedrine....bb.s should´ve gone mainstreem if more people than mentzer would direct traffic naked...then people might have thought we carred about the enviroment atleast...atleast drinking your own piss could´ve stayed...it all went downhill when drinking others cum became the norm...bodybuilders nowadays seem insane!

What in the living hell are you babbling about? Did you take too many Ambiens before that post? Nighty-night an shit?

NotMrAverage · « **Reply #32 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:57:52 AM »

shit, so you are supposed to sleep on those? explain alot then!

slaver · « **Reply #33 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:02:05 AM »

Quote from: mossel on March 26, 2011, 06:02:06 AM

please read this book... and then say he's an idiot... i for sure can't...

is it good?

Playboy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:37:59 AM »

Mentzer was the biggest crybaby in bodybuilding.

mossel · « **Reply #35 on:** March 28, 2011, 05:30:57 AM »

could be... it's just that, (till now) it's the best bb book i've read...

dj181 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 28, 2011, 06:20:30 AM »

Part of what NotMrAverage posted can be found in Mentzer's Heavy Duty Journal, without da meth and piss drinking of course lol "A bodybuilding workout is not an endurance contest"

MB · « **Reply #37 on:** March 28, 2011, 06:49:40 AM »

Quote from: slaver on March 28, 2011, 03:02:05 AM

is it good?

This is the best of Mike's books. He even writes about contest prep, which he avoided in his other books.

Bam-bam · « **Reply #38 on:** March 28, 2011, 06:55:19 AM »

Quote from: NotMrAverage on March 25, 2011, 06:31:34 PM

On meth. Check. Wearing Villiage People cap. Check. Looking as tall as Branch. Check.

he looks small

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #39 on:** March 28, 2011, 07:07:07 AM »

1980 Mr.O thread, without Arnold ?
Really?

This should turn in to Arnold thread from now on ......

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Pet shop boys · « **Reply #40 on:** March 28, 2011, 07:10:04 AM »

And "short Mike" thought he had a chance.

WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHH

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #41 on:** March 28, 2011, 07:14:55 AM »

Quote from: dyslexic on March 26, 2011, 12:41:52 PM

That is a fantastic book, just don't apply his 'logic' to bodybuilding. That basically summarizes the book in its entirety. Mike struggles to find enough scientific analogies to parallel bodybuilding and justify their "theories"-- through 'science'

for those of you with limited vocabulary, get a comprehensive dictionary. Your'e gonna need it.

"Tautology, Inverse Ratios, illogical, formidable, quantum, desparaging, arbitrary, objectivity and subjectivity....

and while your'e at it, pick up "The Wisdom of Mike Mentzer" along with 'the Fountainhead'.

you are joking with this post, right?

andreisdaman · « **Reply #42 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:55:59 AM »

Quote from: Bam-bam on March 28, 2011, 06:55:19 AM

he looks small

you're out of your goddamn mind!

Viking11 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 28, 2011, 01:24:04 PM »

Pilfering their hats, sunglasses, lol!! Awkard but funny video for an inpromptu (was band managers idea by the way).

pellius · « **Reply #44 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:05:24 PM »

Quote from: dj181 on March 26, 2011, 02:13:51 PM

According to him, his clients (circa 97 til 2001 which was when he passed) would regularly gain 20 to 30 quality pounds over a period of 3 to 4 months.

Notice he never showed pics of these clients except one of the Barbarian brothers and that German juicer. Gaining weight in and of itself is meaningless. People all over the world are gaining weight without ever touching a weight -- or their toes for that matter.

And Mentzer, when describing these gains in bodyweight, never ever used the word "quality."

dj181 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:41:48 PM »

So are you saying he's full of shit, and his clients really didn't make such great progress? He did in fact train Anthony Robbins, the motivational speaker. And I remember seeing Robbins on some television infomercial back in 2000, and the dude was NOTICEABLY BIGGER. He claimed that HIT training gave him that size. And if you are looking for visual proof of Mentzer's theroy in action type "The Boise Experiment" into the youtube search engine. There are 2 dudes who videotaped their HIT training experience, and they made some pretty damn good progress. Especially the smaller guy.

pellius · « **Reply #46 on:** March 28, 2011, 09:17:27 PM »

Quote from: dj181 on March 28, 2011, 03:41:48 PM

So are you saying he's full of shit, and his clients really didn't make such great progress? He did in fact train Anthony Robbins, the motivational speaker. And I remember seeing Robbins on some television infomercial back in 2000, and the dude was NOTICEABLY BIGGER. He claimed that HIT training gave him that size. And if you are looking for visual proof of Mentzer's theroy in action type "The Boise Experiment" into the youtube search engine. There are 2 dudes who videotaped their HIT training experience, and they made some pretty damn good progress. Especially the smaller guy.

None of this black and white thinking. Mentzer would not approve of this logic. Because I believed he exaggerated doesn't mean that I think he's full of shit. I've been a Mentzer fan and following his general principles since 1970, probably before you were even born.

When Mentzer says that a with a properly conducted workout session you should make improvement after each and every workout is just simply wrong. He never did it and nobody else did it. If you made a discernible improvement after every workout you'd be 400 pounds of muscle in 5 years.

Of course every time you failed to make gains he would just say that you did something wrong. You will find that out soon enough when you fail to get your 16 inch arm at 7%. Or have you now drop that down to 15" -- down from the original 17"?

dj181 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 29, 2011, 06:42:45 AM »

Well man, as far as me and my 16 inch arm is concerned, that will be covered in full detail during Phase 2 of my 3 Phase Project, and yeah, I firmly believe that I can have a MUSCULAR 16 inch arm @ sub-7. And as far as Mentzer's claim about one making progress each and every single workout, and him not doing that during his own career is because as he said, he wasn't properly implimenting volume and frequency, as he was doing to much of both, and he didn't reduce either aspect enough. He said that one should be able to maximize their full muscular potential within 1 year or less. I know that fast and immediate results are possible coz I've experienced them myself at various times. I'll be honest here, I'm not the best person to demonstrate Mentzer's theroy coz I'm an OCD kinda dude, and I just can not train so infrequently, it's literally impossible for me. The absolute best I can hope for is every other day training, and in fact I usually end up training 2 or 3 days in a row. But that's my problem.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #48 on:** March 29, 2011, 07:15:52 AM »

Quote from: dj181 on March 29, 2011, 06:42:45 AM

Well man, as far as me and my 16 inch arm is concerned, that will be covered in full detail during Phase 2 of my 3 Phase Project, and yeah, I firmly believe that I can have a MUSCULAR 16 inch arm @ sub-7. And as far as Mentzer's claim about one making progress each and every single workout, and him not doing that during his own career is because as he said, he wasn't properly implimenting volume and frequency, as he was doing to much of both, and he didn't reduce either aspect enough. He said that one should be able to maximize their full muscular potential within 1 year or less. I know that fast and immediate results are possible coz I've experienced them myself at various times. I'll be honest here, I'm not the best person to demonstrate Mentzer's theroy coz I'm an OCD kinda dude, and I just can not train so infrequently, it's literally impossible for me. The absolute best I can hope for is every other day training, and in fact I usually end up training 2 or 3 days in a row. But that's my problem.

Sounds like a "Wild horse out of control".

dj181 · « **Reply #49 on:** March 29, 2011, 07:41:01 AM »

I actually had a phone consultation back in 2000 with him, and I just couldn't bring myself to train only once a week, as he suggested. And he did in fact call me a wild horse that needed to be bit and bridled. It would be nice to have some fit and sexyass female bit and bridle me ROFL!