Bulked up and cut back down, in retrospect

[muscularny]

whats even more dangerous is lying to yourself, see that takes a toll on your brain and sooner or later reality will kick you in the ball sack and you will join the millions who have to rely on anti-depressants.

154lbs for a guy is pathetic, jaw line or no jaw line.

See, arguing about things like this is silly, you simply have to observe.

#1, are there women who will like a 154lb guy? Im sure, just like there are woman who like tiny dick, not many.

#2 154lbs is FAR FAR away from being huge to a point where its taxing on your health, obviously I have no clue on how tall you are. Lets say you are on the shorter side at 5'6, you can easily go to 190lbs and stay at 9% BF and look way above avg. Not huge but still better than most.  

#3 super hot chics can be seen with the following guys

* Rich men
* Guys who are above avg in the looks dept, in many cases that will mean body not just some cutup face
* Girls who have been with a guy back when he was in shape and now he became a slob, when you see a hot girl with a fat pig, remember its possible once upon a time he was in shape OR she was a slob and over the years got into shape and had a few surgeries etc.

GIRLS like guys with muscle, if they liked twinky looking men male strip clubs would hire twinks, after all male strip clubs care about money, if girls like pudgy natrual looking teddy bears as some call their fat man, male strip clubs would have at least one pudgy fuck on stage.

Fact is when a girl says ewww gross on muscles shes simply saying, I cant find a muscular guy who will date me or shes intimated as she will always have to be on her tippy toes as the muscular guy gets more attention.

DO NOT BS yourself into thinking girls like twinks, its bullshit, maybe they will like you as a friend, or maybe if shes into small men as she likes using strap ons etc who knows, but sane women like manly looking men.

The mistake that many make is judging what women like based on actors, remember, when a girl likes an actor shes in love with some role he played etc, and also always knows hes got cash. In the real world being above avg in size will always land you better quality.

Come to NYC or go to any large city and go out to a lounge or club and OBSERVE, you will be awaken from your bullshit dream very quickly.

[Firemuscle]

I know what it means to be cut. I was under 10 percent in highschool. I played football offense, defense, special teams never came off of the field. Ran track 400m, 800m, 4x800, 4x400 hardest races there is and also wrestled. I know what cut is I know what good genetics are.

 I've played lots of sports too. I know what those football players look like, almost none of them are cut. They look just like I did at 182.

[Bam-bam]

I think blackflag should do some heavy test cycles for a year, generate plenty of new muscle cells and blow up. Then once he gets clean again he will level up his natural weight for ever thanks to muscle memory.

[Firemuscle]

whats even more dangerous is lying to yourself, see that takes a toll on your brain and sooner or later reality will kick you in the ball sack and you will join the millions who have to rely on anti-depressants.

154lbs for a guy is pathetic, jaw line or no jaw line.

See, arguing about things like this is silly, you simply have to observe.

#1, are there women who will like a 154lb guy? Im sure, just like there are woman who like tiny dick, not many.

#2 154lbs is FAR FAR away from being huge to a point where its taxing on your health, obviously I have no clue on how tall you are. Lets say you are on the shorter side at 5'6, you can easily go to 190lbs and stay at 9% BF and look way above avg. Not huge but still better than most.  

#3 super hot chics can be seen with the following guys

* Rich men
* Guys who are above avg in the looks dept, in many cases that will mean body not just some cutup face
* Girls who have been with a guy back when he was in shape and now he became a slob, when you see a hot girl with a fat pig, remember its possible once upon a time he was in shape OR she was a slob and over the years got into shape and had a few surgeries etc.

GIRLS like guys with muscle, if they liked twinky looking men male strip clubs would hire twinks, after all male strip clubs care about money, if girls like pudgy natrual looking teddy bears as some call their fat man, male strip clubs would have at least one pudgy fuck on stage.

Fact is when a girl says ewww gross on muscles shes simply saying, I cant find a muscular guy who will date me or shes intimated as she will always have to be on her tippy toes as the muscular guy gets more attention.

DO NOT BS yourself into thinking girls like twinks, its bullshit, maybe they will like you as a friend, or maybe if shes into small men as she likes using strap ons etc who knows, but sane women like manly looking men.

The mistake that many make is judging what women like based on actors, remember, when a girl likes an actor shes in love with some role he played etc, and also always knows hes got cash. In the real world being above avg in size will always land you better quality.

Come to NYC or go to any large city and go out to a lounge or club and OBSERVE, you will be awaken from your bullshit dream very quickly.

 How old are you?

 As you get older having muscles matters less. Most women who are over 30 don't give a shit about muscles on a man. They care about your money, social status, education level, overall attractiveness, charisma, etc.

 HEIGHT matter to women. They like a tall man. But they usually don't give a shit about muscle size. A 5'6 guy with muscle will be less attractive than a skinny 6 foot guy. That's how it is.

[Firemuscle]

I think blackflag should do some heavy test cycles for a year, generate plenty of new muscle cells and blow up. Then once he gets clean again he will level up his natural weight for ever thanks to muscle memory.

 I was gonna try that.

 But from my research, it looks like most guys lose just about all the muscle after they come off.

 Maybe i'll try it someday though if i'm feeling the urge.

[kushtestgrowth]

lol, why are you such a pussy? your whole persona is so easy to analyze through your posts.

[Spike]

This thread is worthless without pictures.

Will u pm me some pics?

I'll make it worth ur while sweetness

[DK II]

How old are you?

 As you get older having muscles matters less. Most women who are over 30 don't give a shit about muscles on a man. They care about your money, social status, education level, overall attractiveness, charisma, etc.

 HEIGHT matter to women. They like a tall man. But they usually don't give a shit about muscle size. A 5'6 guy with muscle will be less attractive than a skinny 6 foot guy. That's how it is.

Not really true, actually around 30 is the only time were women look into things like social status and education, it's when their time comes to have a family.

Women around 40 are very much into muscular men.

[Firemuscle]

lol, why are you such a pussy? your whole persona is so easy to analyze through your posts.

 Yours is too PussyKoochHo.

 You are a young, immature jackass who acts cocky to hide his epic insecurities.

 Insecurites are also why you are so driven to gain size too.

 Very one-dimensional character you are PussyKoochHo. You have a facade built up and you aren't being real. I'm being real at least.

 Also, you havn't posted a picture and you claim to have crazy development. You're just a fucking liar like no one, fatpanda, pumpster, etc. etc....

 PussyKoochHo. You are 100% bitch.

[Firemuscle]

Not really true, actually around 30 is the only time were women look into things like social status and education, it's when their time comes to have a family.

Women around 40 are very much into muscular men.

 Sometimes they do, that's true.

 But muscles are not as important to them as other factors.

 And it seems like women either love them or hate them. Some women have strong muscle fetishes, other don't care or are repulsed by it.

 There are about 15 factors that attract women. Muscle is just 1 of those factors.

[tonymctones]

LMFAO maybe you should worry less about what women want and more about what you want...

and if you want ass, there are plenty of chicks that dig guys with muscle who arent ripped.

[polychronopolous]

Seems like you got the shitty end of the genetic stick Good for you though I like your enthusiasm. If you've gone this long without using aas don't even bother unless you are interested in hrt at a older age.

yeah he is doing the best with the shit genetics that were given to him

[kushtestgrowth]

Yours is too PussyKoochHo.

 You are a young, immature jackass who acts cocky to hide his epic insecurities.

 Insecurites are also why you are so driven to gain size too.

 Very one-dimensional character you are PussyKoochHo. You have a facade built up and you aren't being real. I'm being real at least.

 Also, you havn't posted a picture and you claim to have crazy development. You're just a fucking liar like no one, fatpanda, pumpster, etc. etc....

 PussyKoochHo. You are 100% bitch.

lol what the fuck are you talking about? you're insecure, just look through your posts... its rediculous, you would sell your soul to be muscular. fuckin loser i wouldnt ever need to prove anything to someone like you.. single loser in his mid 30's... wow

[DK II]

Sometimes they do, that's true.

 But muscles are not as important to them as other factors.

 And it seems like women either love them or hate them. Some women have strong muscle fetishes, other don't care or are repulsed by it.

 There are about 15 factors that attract women. Muscle is just 1 of those factors.

Bodybuilding is not for you, just go on and run marathon.

158lbs, LMAO.

[Devon97]

BFRD speaking spittin' some truth!

I'm 6'4" 214 7% BF, drug free since 04' -

Once you get past 31 and drug free it's a whole diff ball game.

[Firemuscle]

 What you all are saying is different than the reality I see.

 I don't see naturals walking around at 200 pounds and cut.

 Where are they? I see lots of naturals who are a soft 200 pounds. Cut 200 pounds = steroids. Unless they are like 6 foot 4.

[Stavios]

I agree completely dude, I never thought I would say this but it's  come to a point in my life (31) where I think bodybuilding and massing and all this shit is just silly, it's cool when you're 19,21 but as you get older you just realize it's retarded and for little kids, last few years I've gotten way more into staying lean and fit by doing more cardio and cross training with muay thai. At this point I'm 244 and have no interest in getting bigger

244 is huge as fuck tho, that's a good weight to walk around at

[polychronopolous]

he logs onto the internet and brags about how big of a badass he is because he weighs in the 150s and when he walks around your average shopping center he is not viewed as a man who lifts weights but rather as just an average nobody.

[The Grim Lifter]

What you all are saying is different than the reality I see.

 I don't see naturals walking around at 200 pounds and cut.

 Where are they? I see lots of naturals who are a soft 200 pounds. Cut 200 pounds = steroids. Unless they are like 6 foot 4.

You bulked for a year. If you started at 154 naturally you could at least get to 180 and be lean naturally if you gave it a few years.

You can have your 15 reasons women will go for men. If you are good looking, it's a big one, if you are in good shape its a big one and if you have muscle on top of it all you're a fucking god.

Getting cut can be done in months. It takes years to build muscle. You're already making excuses i don't think it's for you.

[Meso_z]

In late 2009 I decided to "bulk up". At that time my body weight was only 154.

 So I ate everything. Ate 6-8x per day. Lifted hard. By mid 2010 I was up to 182. Of course some of it was fat. I was feeling like shit. Low energy from eating food all the time. My body constantly digesting and breaking down foods, feeling tired because of it. Looking like shit, bigger, but softer all around with fat around my waist and face. I was stronger for sure though. I could tell I was less attractive to women. I didn't feel healthy.

 I got sick of living the bulking life and decided to cut back down. Started dieting, eating cleaner, doing more cardio. Now i'm back down to 158. I feel MUCH better. More energy. My body feels healthy and light, not bloated. Feel clean instead of being full of toxins. My shitting and digestion is back to normal.

 I am getting more smiles from females again becuase of my lean neck and jawline, vascularity and muscle tone. Most women don't give a fuck about muscle size, they appreciate muscle tone, a hard body and vascularity, but sheer size usually doesn't impress them. Getting bigger and thinking it'll get you more pussy is a foolish road to walk on.

 What did I gain from bulking up? 4 pounds of muscle.

 What did I learn? I learned that being big does not feel good. It can look good sometimes if it's lean mass, but it definitely taxes your internal organs when you carry more weight, it's just nopt healthy. When you eat more food you tax your organs more, have less energy, your body is busy digesting all the time. Your heart is pumping blood to more tissue and working harder.

 The bodybuilder diet, eating 6-8x per day. That really fucking sucks. I am REALLY happy to be eating 3x per day again like a normal person. Bulking is lame. Slow, steady, lean growth is what it's all about.

 Bulked up = feel like shit, less energy, unhealthy, unnattractive, unathletic, losing.

 Lean and cut = feel great, more energy, healthy, attractive, athletic, winning.

 High bodyfat = fail. Cut = win. It don't matter how much muscle you have underneath it.
 

hahaha omg. You were never  "Lean and cut" asshole so you will never know how it is to be...Let alone "Bulked up". Fucking idiot go back to bb.com forums.

[DK II]

hahaha omg. You were never  "Lean and cut" asshole so you will never know how it is to be...Let alone "Bulked up". Fucking idiot go back to bb.com forums.

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[Hulkotron]

182, you must have been a beast.

[DK II]

182, you must have been a beast.

He probably could hardly walk at this weight, this is much too much to be able to perform in daily life. 

For a healthy male, your weight should be around 130lbs. 

[Meso_z]

He probably could hardly walk at this weight, this is much too much to be able to perform in daily life. 

For a healthy male, your weight should be around 130lbs. 

Lean and cut = feel great, more energy, healthy, attractive, athletic, winning.

lol....

You basically feel like shit.

The sweet spot of feeling great, happy and healthy is exactly in the middle of "lean and cut" and "bulked up"...

[Meso_z]

He probably could hardly walk at this weight, this is much too much to be able to perform in daily life. 

For a healthy male, your weight should be around 130lbs. 

lol he doesnt seem to have a problem carrying his boyfriend around on his back though.