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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2011, 11:11:46 PM »
Well, back then big legs weren't needed, but it's not to say that these guys couldn't build them bigger. Once Platz came on the scene everyone started concentrating on bigger legs and it went from there.

Now, as far as Arnold and Sami, post some pics of these two. Sami isn't even on the same planet as far as comparison.

I don't want to fight with you as i am totally your opinion, i'm just playing the devil's advocate.

I prefer Arnold's look over any of today's BBs every day, but i think that with Arnold's body, you wouldn't win shit in today's BB.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2011, 11:12:01 PM »
That's the thing, it isn't 1000 steps backwards, it's 1000 steps forwards.  It's just that it's about 900 steps too far forward.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2011, 11:12:11 PM »
How about someone do some "classic" bodybuilding shows like they had at the arnold amateur this year??

They do it in europe. How about bringing that division to the states.

Reward conditioning, small waist, proportionate and symmetrical physiques.

It's funny because I always thought it would be cool for someone to at least do a tribute (or something like that) to old school bodybuilding, during my routine I even hit a couple of old school Bill Pearl poses in the last show. (No, hes not gay ::))

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2011, 11:16:03 PM »
I remember seeing Chris Dickerson leaving the Veterans Memorial in 1981 after placing second to the one legged lactating wonder and he was dressed in a suit. He looked pretty sharp in it too. Can you imagine some of these guys today wearing a suit?
dexter does and did after the 08 olympia. he looked kinda like a regular guy.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2011, 11:16:29 PM »
I don't want to fight with you as i am totally your opinion, i'm just playing the devil's advocate.

I prefer Arnold's look over any of today's BBs every day, but i think that with Arnold's body, you wouldn't win shit in today's BB.

I know what you are saying bro, but wouldn't you agree that there isn't anyone that is winning local shows that is built better than Arnold, at least none that I know of.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2011, 11:18:04 PM »
dexter does and did after the 08 olympia. he looked kinda like a regular guy.

Dexter still looks a lot like the older guys, but he has always had trouble with leg separation, but I do agree he looks good.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2011, 11:19:18 PM »
I know what you are saying bro, but wouldn't you agree that there isn't anyone that is winning local shows that is built better than Arnold, at least none that I know of.

There isn't, but even if there were, an Arnold couldn't win today.

That's two separate things!

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2011, 11:19:55 PM »
I think we all would agree that Arnie had some smaller legs, but he did have some great separation.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2011, 11:23:28 PM »
To be honest I sometimes think that pro bb should just go under. Then maybe we could go back to the drawing board and reinvent the old look. I am NOT saying guys have to get smaller, just start marking down for big guts and rewarding a more classic look albeit bigger.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2011, 11:30:56 PM »
I disagree on the drug issue, unless you talk about the 1920s.

Back in the late 60s and early 70s, drug use was as prominent as it is today, what was different i think is the amount of drugs and the relentlessness with which drugs are applied even by people that just started working out.

Let'S believe Vince Basile for a moment, back then you could win a Mr Canada with some Dianabol, to compete in the Mr Olympia you would have needed much more.


Today you wouldn't even win a local show with the 1975 Mr Olympia stack.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2011, 11:34:08 PM »
To be honest I sometimes think that pro bb should just go under. Then maybe we could go back to the drawing board and reinvent the old look. I am NOT saying guys have to get smaller, just start marking down for big guts and rewarding a more classic look albeit bigger.

True.

Or let the IFBB be the IFBB and start some own league, people competing for fun in schools and let that grow slowly.

I think it could be quite popular, albeit it would take a time to make it bigger than local.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2011, 11:34:20 PM »
To be honest I sometimes think that pro bb should just go under. Then maybe we could go back to the drawing board and reinvent the old look. I am NOT saying guys have to get smaller, just start marking down for big guts and rewarding a more classic look albeit bigger.

pro bodybuilding should go back to fellas who compete 180-240lb,, it should be back to where it was 1970 and 1980,, no insulin what so ever,,gh is fine but no abuse ,,and all you can eat aas buffet which is ok and actualy develop the muscle and not just blow it up...

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2011, 11:34:55 PM »
very good posting

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2011, 11:36:50 PM »

the guts of the whole machinery has to be taken out and it all has to be built back up from scratch.

competitive bb'ing today isnt about building the 'ideal physique' anymore. its an embarrassing sideshow that is only causing us to be looked at like a bunch of weirdos.



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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2011, 11:37:18 PM »
Sadly those days are gone bro.

Now we have insulin and growth hormone filled abominations representing the "sport" you used to love.

Its in the gutter bro! Its not coming back.

a fella like peter putnam in 70s and 80s woud not even be able to get a chance to comepte for profesional card,,fellas that today actualy walk around 250 lb of shit ,,they are low body fat but the fat is inside the muscle and lots of insulin ,,those fellas really ruined bodybuild ,,the damage is enormous,,

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2011, 11:38:23 PM »
the guts of the whole machinery has to be taken out and it all has to be built back up from scratch.

competitive bb'ing today isnt about building the 'ideal physique' anymore. its an embarrassing sideshow that is only causing us to be looked at like a bunch of weirdos.







It's about who can take the most drugs without dying.


If a thing like Branch Warren can win a show, you should shut down the circus immediatly.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2011, 11:39:09 PM »
Agreed on both you guys points. The guys back in the 70's and 80's took a lot of STEROIDS. What is ruining bodybuilding today in a nut shell is insulin and overeating!!!!!!! Eating massive amount of food and using tons of slin. How many of you guys have seen some of the pros when they were younger and said wow so and so looked great back then? Yes they did because their physiques had not been ruined yet thru slin abuse.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2011, 11:44:05 PM »
You guys like to rip on Branch so lets use him for an example. What if Branch stopped using insulin completely just slin and nothing else. He would also have to adjust his diet accordingly. He would come into these shows with a smaller waist and with a tighter more shredded look mainly in the upper body where he lacks it now. Of course I am no so sure some of these guys could ever go back to what they used to look like. Even Dorian has somewhat of an distended gut these days. Also, I was kinda surprised at the Palumbo pics too.

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2011, 11:47:18 PM »
No it wasn't, back then we trained and we trained hard, back then drugs were really the finishing touches and training came first. Not so today. today drugs come first, training second. As far as being gay? Sure there were gay bodybuilders but nothing like it is today as far as I know. But in all fairness, there were no computers, no internet and gossip and opinion boards, obviously, but the ones that were (are) gay kept it to themselves and acted like professionals, a word that can rarely be used in todays industry. I remember going to shows and seeing my favorite pros signing autographs, waring a suit and tie, dressed nicely....like professionals.

you will never get thsoe time again unles disaster of major proprtion hit the world,, and it most likley wont in your life time,,the 70s and 80s is long long time memory that if you were lucky to be adult or even kid in those times you are one of the most fortune humans,,the machinary in the form of computers advanced society but also ruined the world ,,today you take cell phone from girl and the girl is going to mental hospital ,,people actualy runing their BANK ACCOUNTS FROM THEIR CELL PHONE WITH ALL CODES AND EVERYTHIN,,people rely on computer to a point that if something happen they will shoot themselves or stay lost and die,, it is already in the blood like hiv,,it now develped into aids...it eats society ,,and thus bodybuild is nothing different,,who do you think do bodybuild? thsoe same felas who their girlfriend going around with cell phone 24 7 and live her life by it texting every 36 second ,,sorry every 11 seconds ,,cant even sit and eat in restaurant with out the whore texting... same for people not wanting to even deal or call pon the phoen to anyone or forget about going and meeting face to face,,no one does it,,they all do everything from cell or from their lap ....

no one even beat up anyone anymore,,they all own eachother on computers,,back in the 80s you would tak ethe fuckin kid outside and beat him up or fight him ....today if you do it ,,the kid pull a gun or a knife so you cant even go into good ole fight because there wil always be a gun and someone really die....

so what we stay with is SHIT SOCIETY and only major disaster can change it and move back time,,anyother way we go forword...but in reality every forword in the so called modern technological era = step into no where ,,into lonliness and into insanity,,it wil all fal apart you can see it with the american goverment,,it all falls apart,,slowly and safely ,,god forbid if americana ever fall apart this world is over then

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #44 on: March 31, 2011, 11:49:51 PM »
you will never get thsoe time again unles disaster of major proprtion hit the world,, and it most likley wont in your life time,,the 70s and 80s is long long time memory that if you were lucky to be adult or even kid in those times you are one of the most fortune humans,,the machinary in the form of computers advanced society but also ruined the world ,,today you take cell phone from girl and the girl is going to mental hospital ,,people actualy runing their BANK ACCOUNTS FROM THEIR CELL PHONE WITH ALL CODES AND EVERYTHIN,,people rely on computer to a point that if something happen they will shoot themselves or stay lost and die,, it is already in the blood like hiv,,it now develped into aids...it eats society ,,and thus bodybuild is nothing different,,who do you think do bodybuild? thsoe same felas who their girlfriend going around with cell phone 24 7 and live her life by it texting every 36 second ,,sorry every 11 seconds ,,cant even sit and eat in restaurant with out the whore texting... same for people not wanting to even deal or call pon the phoen to anyone or forget about going and meeting face to face,,no one does it,,they all do everything from cell or from their lap ....

no one even beat up anyone anymore,,they all own eachother on computers,,back in the 80s you would tak ethe fuckin kid outside and beat him up or fight him ....today if you do it ,,the kid pull a gun or a knife so you cant even go into good ole fight because there wil always be a gun and someone really die....

so what we stay with is SHIT SOCIETY and only major disaster can change it and move back time,,anyother way we go forword...but in reality every forword in the so called modern technological era = step into no where ,,into lonliness and into insanity,,it wil all fal apart you can see it with the american goverment,,it all falls apart,,slowly and safely ,,god forbid if americana ever fall apart this world is over then

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2011, 11:52:14 PM »
True.

Or let the IFBB be the IFBB and start some own league, people competing for fun in schools and let that grow slowly.

I think it could be quite popular, albeit it would take a time to make it bigger than local.

Come to the Yokosuka show this year, very local show, people competing for fun, drug use at the minimum, no freaks, held in a theater, very old school ;)
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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2011, 11:54:09 PM »
Come to the Yokosuka show this year, very local show, people competing for fun, drug use at the minimum, no freaks, held in a theater, very old school ;)

i will go there for sure!

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2011, 12:01:27 AM »
i will go there for sure!

Perhaps as a competitor? ;)
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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2011, 12:10:04 AM »
Perhaps as a competitor? ;)

Could happen!

Lately i feel like competing a bit.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Before Pro Bodybuilding
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2011, 12:24:01 AM »
what's the point?
does any of GB got enough power to change something?