Only uncrowned Mr Olympia is Victor Martinez....Shawn, Flex and Levrone never.

[Shockwave]

I Missed that part. Ronnie was in 3rd after Symmetry round behind Nasser 

Place   Name   Country   1   2   3   4   Pnts
1   Ronnie Coleman   USA   17   5   5   5   32
2   Flex Wheeler   USA   5   10   10   10   35
3   Nasser El Sonbaty   Yugoslavia   11   16   17   16   60
4   Kevin Levrone   USA   23   21   20   20   84
5   Shawn Ray   USA   18   22   24   25   89
6   Chris Cormier   USA   40   30   30   30   130
7   Lee Priest   Australia   30   35   35      100
8   Ernie Taylor   England   53   40   42      135
9   Mike Matarazo   USA   54   48   52      154
10   Jean Pierre Fux   Switzerland   53   51   53      157
11   Milos Sarcev   Yugoslavia   61   56   61      178
12   Johnny Moya   USA   60   62   62      184
13   Darrem Charles   Trinadad   69   63   61      193
14   Aaron Baker   USA   73   67   56      196
15   Gunter Schlierkamp   Germany   77   73   69      219
16   Ahmed Haidar   Lebanon   84   80   83      247
17   Claude Groulx   Canada   88   82   82      252
Withdrew   Paul Dillett   Canada   35      

Epic lulz.

[Hulkster]

Shawn in 94 was out-massed and out conditioned by Dorian

and ironically, the pics show dorian being in worse condition than shawn in every one of those 94 shots..

thank god for real life pics over internet bullshit talk...

[Shockwave]

and ironically, the pics show dorian being in worse condition than shawn in every one of those 94 shots..

thank god for real life pics over internet bullshit talk...

HAHAHAHA.
Almost 4 years later, same 3 pics on que.
Hulkster, Im almost impressed by your blind zealot like tenacity.
Thank god for that, and thank god those 3 carefully selected pics from an internet bullshit artist that have no actual representation of how those 2 looked in that contest, otherwise people might actually start taking you seriously!

[NarcissisticDeity]

HAHAHAHA.
Almost 4 years later, same 3 pics on que.
Hulkster, Im almost impressed by your blind zealot like tenacity.
Thank god for that, and thank god those 3 carefully selected pics from an internet bullshit artist that have no actual representation of how those 2 looked in that contest, otherwise people might actually start taking you seriously!

What else is he gonna say? even Shawn knows he lost in 94 it wasn't even close , wait I take that back it was close between 2nd and 3rd and the fans went HAYWIRE when Shawn placed ahead of Kevin

[abijahmaniaco]

doran has jay's abs the way his chest is so high. and is that a young milos on the left?

[NarcissisticDeity]

doran has jay's abs the way his chest is so high. and is that a young milos on the left?

Nah his abs aren't like Jay's

[G_Thang]

milos in happier days.

yates looks like shit.

[Shockwave]

milos in happier days.

yates looks like shit.

Yates not looking like shit.
Yeah he looks like shit in several photos from that contest, admittedly. But those few photos are not representative of the contest.

[JP_RC]

Dorian winning title after title is when bodybuilding truly started to go downhill.

QFT!!

Bodybuilding started going downhill after 1993.

[JP_RC]

Same contest.
Dorians condition wasnt nearly as bad as people (Hulkster) try and make it out to be.

Dorians WORST Pose

Shawn looks 10x better than Dorian in every shot.

"But Dorian is bigger." Shawn is more complete.

"But Shawn is shorter and has narrow clavicles".....Yeah that is worse than a torn bicep, bloated stomach and holding water. 

[Shockwave]

Shawn looks 10x better than Dorian in every shot.

"But Dorian is bigger." Shawn is more complete.

"But Shawn is shorter and has narrow clavicles".....Yeah that is worse than a torn bicep, bloated stomach and holding water. 

History agrees with me brosef. As far as completeness goes, Dorian IS one of the most complete BB of all time, the bicep was the only incomplete part on him.
I know its gotta suck to have to admit Shawn was too small, too narrow, and too short to be a threat to Dorian. But its ok, there many other foolish souls that agree with you, so youre not alone in being wrong.   

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shawn looks 10x better than Dorian in every shot.

"But Dorian is bigger." Shawn is more complete.

"But Shawn is shorter and has narrow clavicles".....Yeah that is worse than a torn bicep, bloated stomach and holding water. 

More complete? small high calves , no width , no clavicles , short  he is not complete you're just willing to overlook his flaws , the judges weren't

[JP_RC]

More complete? small high calves , no width , no clavicles , short  he is not complete you're just willing to overlook his flaws , the judges weren't

So if Shawn's small high calves are a flaw, how about Dorian's small high biceps? And one of them torn.
How about flat arms and shoulders that lack roundness? (see his most muscular)

And tell me what is a worse flaw, narrow clavicles and being shorter or having a torn muscle, holding water, having no detail and a distended belly?

[NarcissisticDeity]

History agrees with me brosef. As far as completeness goes, Dorian IS one of the most complete BB of all time, the bicep was the only incomplete part on him.
I know its gotta suck to have to admit Shawn was too small, too narrow, and too short to be a threat to Dorian. But its ok, there many other foolish souls that agree with you, so youre not alone in being wrong.   

people like him have their minds set in stone like fundamentalist Christians , they like what they like and can't look past their biases to see how Dorian could win , I was like that back in 1993 when Flex lost I thought he was robbed and I bitched & moaned and then once I learned how things work , I realized how much Dorian dominated that entire field it wasn't even close

people base everything on shape and what appeals to them aesthetically , they like what they like and everything else is wrong , which is why they are horrible at physique analysis , they are guided by emotion.

 

[abijahmaniaco]

jay's abs do the exact same thing. they look terrible in top pose and very visible in bottom pose.

[andreisdaman]

Shawn ray, Levrone, flex?
Get the fuck out of here......Shawn in 94 was out-massed and out conditioned by Dorian, Kevin in 92 was outmassed and same in 2002 (his legs were toothpicks and he had a non exsistent back) Flex was raped in 98 and in 99.
I love how people assume that these guys were uncrowned Mr Olympias........when? what year?
They can never go into specifics explaining how and when they should of won.

The only controversial was perhaps 1997 and 2007, when Nasser and Victor lost.
Victor was in superior condition with superior shape where Nasser had an advantage in muscle shape and aesthetics. But Nasser was out conditioned and destroyed from the back. Victor was not.

Only one controversial Olympia and that is 2007.

you're out of your mind..Shawn absolutely owns Dorian

[Rambone]

Too bad Shawn was so short. Fantastic pussy-pulling physique nonetheless. Definitely would want to look like that over Dorian.

[MCWAY]

Shawn ray, Levrone, flex?
Get the fuck out of here......Shawn in 94 was out-massed and out conditioned by Dorian, Kevin in 92 was outmassed and same in 2002 (his legs were toothpicks and he had a non exsistent back) Flex was raped in 98 and in 99.
I love how people assume that these guys were uncrowned Mr Olympias........when? what year?
They can never go into specifics explaining how and when they should of won.

The only controversial was perhaps 1997 and 2007, when Nasser and Victor lost.
Victor was in superior condition with superior shape where Nasser had an advantage in muscle shape and aesthetics. But Nasser was out conditioned and destroyed from the back. Victor was not.

Only one controversial Olympia and that is 2007.

Yates outconditioned Ray in 94? ARE YOU HIGH?

You could WRING the water out of Dorian's skin, not to mention his bloated waist and torn biceps.

[andreisdaman]

Yates outconditioned Ray in 94? ARE YOU HIGH?

You could WRING the water out of Dorian's skin, not to mention his bloated waist and torn biceps.

Not to mention Dorian looks way unhealthy compared to shawn

[Shockwave]

Yates outconditioned Ray in 94? ARE YOU HIGH?

You could WRING the water out of Dorian's skin, not to mention his bloated waist and torn biceps.

Thats a bit of an exaggeration, Dorian wasnt as conditioned as 93 or 95, but he wasnt "water logged" by any strench. His conditioning was about equal to Ray, Ray even said in an interview that Dorian just overcarbed resulting in his bloated waist.

[powerbar]

Anyone that thinks that Dorian should have won the symmetry round in any show he ever did is retarded, blind or a family member of Dorian's.  I have no problem with him winning the muscularity round of most of his Olympias.  Figure out where he truly belongs in the symmetry round and then you'll probably find that Shawn, Flex and Kevin should all have a Sandow.  One other thing, height isn't part of the judging criteria.  If you don't have midget proportions then it shouldn't matter how tall you are.  If it was a height contest Shawn Bradley's name would would have been brought up in this thread not Shawn Ray's.

[Grape Ape]

Shawn deserved the Sandow in 1996, but not 1994.

No, he didn't.

[JP_RC]

Anyone that thinks that Dorian should have won the symmetry round in any show he ever did is retarded, blind or a family member of Dorian's.  I have no problem with him winning the muscularity round of most of his Olympias.  Figure out where he truly belongs in the symmetry round and then you'll probably find that Shawn, Flex and Kevin should all have a Sandow.  One other thing, height isn't part of the judging criteria.  If you don't have midget proportions then it shouldn't matter how tall you are.  If it was a height contest Shawn Bradley's name would would have been brought up in this thread not Shawn Ray's.

Every round is a physique round. That explains why Dorian won the symmetry round despite having horrible symmetry.

That being said, still Shawn>Dorian in 94.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Anyone that thinks that Dorian should have won the symmetry round in any show he ever did is retarded, blind or a family member of Dorian's.  I have no problem with him winning the muscularity round of most of his Olympias.  Figure out where he truly belongs in the symmetry round and then you'll probably find that Shawn, Flex and Kevin should all have a Sandow.  One other thing, height isn't part of the judging criteria.  If you don't have midget proportions then it shouldn't matter how tall you are.  If it was a height contest Shawn Bradley's name would would have been brought up in this thread not Shawn Ray's.

He won the posing rounds as well and why? ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS and height isn't part of the judging criteria? how do you know? you can't even figure out how Dorian won the ' symmetry ' round

[NarcissisticDeity]

Every round is a physique round. That explains why Dorian won the symmetry round despite having horrible symmetry.

That being said, still Shawn>Dorian in 94.

no Shawn doesn't ' > ' Dorian in 1994 only in your biased mind , how the judges apply the criteria , Dorian crushed Shawn in 1994


1994 was a very close contest , between second and third with Shawn actually BEHIND Kevin after the prejudging and just barely beating him for second much to the unhappiness of the crowd , Shawn was destroyed like he was in 93 and 92