In regards to bodyfat...

[supernick]

liar priest and Trey brewer are prob  the only pros who act did get fat,  This is partially because they rairly compete and r not under a contract.  any pro under a contract wouldnt.  Like gh15 says its only water.

[Nails]

[BiGHer]

liar priest and Trey brewer are prob  the only pros who act did get fat,  This is partially because they rairly compete and r not under a contract.  any pro under a contract wouldnt.  Like gh15 says its only water.

Trey Brewer would actually come OFF hormones completely too.  I have 2 friends who are mutual friends of his and I know for a fact he comes off at times and that is when the fat goes on.

[tbombz]

this is just about the fattest any  bodybuilder has been for a guest posing show in recent memory.




^^ thats 9-10% bodyfat maximum


bodybuilders dont get fat, they just look that way when they get bloated because your so used to seeing them dry and shredded.  you will never see a top ifbb pro with more than 8-9% bodyfat, ever.

[jude2]

Some get really fat, some don't. Thats all.

[gh15]

post the pics where you think phil was fat.

yes put them i would like to see

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[gh15]

So is this hormone based water retention or just plain fat? Both? Is there 15% bodyfat hiding under the bloated outer shell?

this is liar priest at around 12%  my friends,, i know youre not used to him 12%.... but this is him at 12%  with BOAT LOAD of water between skin and muscle,,infact i will go here and say this is 10%! with boat load of water,, but 12% is somewhere i can 100% approve

only thing he did was....eating sodium like there is no tomorrow...and just putting in everything he wanted while avoiding the products needed to be avoided for that time being..he took everything out probably left insulina and testosterona in ...and played with it for 2-3 weeks and you got this in addition to the camera man who did wonderful job,,

it was for specific reasons ,, liar priest never saw 15% in a long long time,, he walk fat at12-14%

learn your hormones friends,,this iis both water and fat ....more water than fat ofcourse ,, this is a bloat mother fucker on lots of testosterona and insulina or dianabola testosterona and insulina

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[gh15]

Actually this is an interesting point.  If it's mostly water retention and they are still 6-8% bf, why don't they just take a diuretic before guest posing so they don't look like a huge pile of shit?  Shouldn't be too hard, right?  Or is it? Or is there some other motive which escapes me?

because diuretic bring the water out....it get you lighter...the fellas today think in terms of WEIGHT ON SCALE

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[gh15]

liar priest and Trey brewer are prob  the only pros who act did get fat,  This is partially because they rairly compete and r not under a contract.  any pro under a contract wouldnt.  Like gh15 says its only water.

thats correct ,, we play with only water and minimal fat,, liar priest also play with water and minimal fat,, the kid trey gained fat yesit was like sack of dead jello around his physiqe still though still! he wasnt anywhere near 20%

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[chess315]

ya lee priest is actualy pretty lean in the pic lol its an add meant to make him look more fat then he is also white lighting takes out the defention

[Swlabr]

gh15, if the top two abs are clearly visible and you can vaguely see your serratus, does that mean one is fairly lean, but holding a lot of water? What body fat would that approximately be?

[gh15]

i need pictures,, usualy the seratus and sides will show when flexing quite well on low bodyfat fella that hold water...if you see fibers running on your obliqe under skin ....and you see the t rex face both side of the abdominals as i call it ...while flexing squize side then you are low bodyfat and very lean ....if you hold less water you wil see abdominals clear with lines clear...if hold more water your abs will be seen but softer apearance,,

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[jude2]

Worst post to date gh15. Lee is alot more than 10-12 here. He is a fat ass there, look at his tits how shoft from being lazy  from not training. Look at the back fat from the rear. This is a short fat ass.

this is liar priest at around 12%  my friends,, i know youre not used to him 12%.... but this is him at 12%  with BOAT LOAD of water between skin and muscle,,infact i will go here and say this is 10%! with boat load of water,, but 12% is somewhere i can 100% approve

only thing he did was....eating sodium like there is no tomorrow...and just putting in everything he wanted while avoiding the products needed to be avoided for that time being..he took everything out probably left insulina and testosterona in ...and played with it for 2-3 weeks and you got this in addition to the camera man who did wonderful job,,

it was for specific reasons ,, liar priest never saw 15% in a long long time,, he walk fat at12-14%

learn your hormones friends,,this iis both water and fat ....more water than fat ofcourse ,, this is a bloat mother fucker on lots of testosterona and insulina or dianabola testosterona and insulina

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[suckmymuscle]

IM NTO QUOTING ANYONE IN THIS BALONIE TREAD FOR THERE IS NOTHING TO QUOTE,,

NOW LISTEN CAREFULY,, I WILL SAY IT ONCE! AND THIS WILL BE IT!

I AM NEVER WRONG WHEN IT COME TO BODYFAT! NEVER EVER AM I WRONG,, I KNOW THE EXACT DIFF BETWEEN WATER AND FAT I GET PAYED A LOT TO PUT FELLAS IN EXACTLY THE RIGHT NUMBERS ASKED FOR ,,

NOW THIS IS THE PART YOU HAVE TO LISTEN VERY CAREFULY TO!

EVERY FELLA GET TRUE ESTIMATION OF THEIR BODYFAT ,, WHEN I SAY TBOMB IS 15% I MEAN EXACTLY THAT! WHEN I SAY THE URESOS IS WHATEVER I SAID HE WAS IT MEAN EXACTLY THAT ,,

THE ONLY DIFF IS WATER THAT YOU CONFUSE WITH BODYFAT! IT IS A BIG MISTAKE MADE BY BODYBUILDER A ND THAT IS WHY YOU ALWAYS SIT IN YOUR MISERABLE 178LB ON STAGE AND PLAYING THE WANNA BE MIDDLE WEIGTH BODYBUILDER THAT WANNA GO UP TO LIGHT HEAVY...

THE ONLY PRODUCTS THAT CAN PUT A BODYBUILDER AT HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD BODYFAT PERCENTAGE GIVEN IS

E P H E D R I N E AND DIURETIC

CLENBUTEROL IS SECANDARY BEST ,, AND DNP IS OFCOURSE USED BUT NOT RECOMENDED BY ME ,,

YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND ONCE AND FOR ALL THAT THE REASON ONE BODYBUILD LOOK PUFF AND SOFTER  IS IN 99% OF CASES WATER RETENTION FROM THE HORMONES EVEN IF NATURAL WATER RETENTION IS WHAT IT IS WHEN I GOD OF HORMONES DETERMINE ITS WATER,, INORDER TO GET READ OF THIS WATER THE FIRST THING WE BODYBUILD DO IS USE

E P H E D R I N A ! THIS IS SOMETHING YOU DO NOT HEAR ANYWHERE ,,WHY? BECAUSE THE SCAMBAG MOTHER FUCKING LIARS DONT OPEN THEIR MOUTH ,, WHY DO YOU THINK ANY NATURAL OUT THERE TRUE NATURAL ....GET PREP TO COMPETITION WITH FAT BURNER? WHY DO THEY USE EPHEDRINE?? BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT TAKE MAJORITY OF THE WATER OUT AND THE LITTLE FAT DOWN TO 6% OR IF HORMONIZED DOWN TO 4%

READ WHAT I WROTE ABOVE AGAIN AND AGAIN OVER AND OVER

INSTED OF TAKING OUT HORMONES....YOU PLAY WITH THEM WHILE INCREASING EPHEDRINA DOSES!!!!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT NO ONE OF THE DANTAS CARE TO TELL YOU ..WITH HIM ITS BECAUSE HE IS PURE FAT BUT IN GENERAL NO ONE TELL YOU THAT BECAUSS THEY DO NOT GIVE A FLYING BALONIE ABOUT YOU ,,

IT IS THE EPHEDRINE THAT SHOW SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW THOSE 9% EUROSOS HAVE,, AND IT IS THE EPHEDRINE THAT WOULD PUT SOMEONE LIKE JOE AT DRY 7% IF NOT 6... AND IT IS THE EPHEDRINE THAT PUT US BODYBUILDER READY AS IN DRIERRRRR WHEN ON MEGA DOSE HORMONES...AND THEN DIURETIC APPLICATION ,,

GET IT IN YOUR FUCKIN HEAD ALREADY ,, YOU ARE NOT SLOW I KNOW YOU ARE NOT SLOW BUT YOU ACT SLOW TO KEEP GOING ABOUT THIS BALONIE

I AM NEVER WRONG ABOUT BODYFAT,,

THE ONLY DIFF IS THE DRY FELLAS USE EPHEDRINA AND FAT BURNERS OF THE SUCH ....EPHEDRINA WILL ALSO DO SOMETHING LIKE MOST SERIOUS AMPHETAMINES WILL DO AND IT IS REDUCE WATER REDUCE FINAL BODYFAT% AND! ANDDDDDDDD! WILL ADD ADDDDDDDDDDDDD SOME WEIGHT TO YOU IN THE FORM OF PRESERVED MUSCLE AND PUMP DRY PUMP IN THE MUSCLE THAT WILL EXPEND THE MUSCLE AND VOLUMIZE IT FROM WITHIN ....YES YES THE FACT ABOUT CLENBUTEROL  ABILITY TO EXPEND THE MUSCLE FROM WITHIN IS TRUE BUT IT IS WAY BETTER WITH EPHEDRINA AND DONE BY US BODYBUILDERS ALL THE TIME,,

YOU EAT CLEAN AND TRY TO GET INTO COMPETITION MODE....

THEN EAT WHATEVER AND USE EPHEDRINE...PREFEREBLY WITH AAS..

AND YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU END UP LIKE,,

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WILL END UP LIKE PUPILS..

190+LB ON STAGE WITH EPHEDRINE

185 LB ON STAGE WITH OUT IT!

EPHEDRINE IS OUR SECRET TO EVERYTHING RELATED TO DRYNESS AND THE REDUCTION OF WATER FROM OTHER HORMONES....THIS IS A SECRET THAT AGAIN NO ONE TELL YOU BALONIE ABOUT BECAUSE NO ONE GIVE A FLYING FUCK WETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT...THEY ARE ALL COCROCHES WHO DONT CARE ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES

WHAT DO YOU THINK GET PHILSULINA NOW TO BE IN SHAPE? THE GH? OFCOURSE IT KEEP HIM LEAN ....BUT WHAT GET HIM HARD?? FUCKIN MEGA DOSE EPHEDRINA AND AMPHTAMINE,, FELLA IS AS HIGH AS A KITE,,

LEARN YOUR FUCKIN BODYBUILDING AND HOW WE MANIPULATR WATER WITH EATING FREE OF WORRY !

YOU FELLAS REALLY NEED TO LEARN YOUR BODYBUILD AND BODYFAT AND WATER,, LOTS OF MISGUDED SOULS IN THIS TREAD ,, THIS IS NOT GOOD

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[gh15]

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no,, since i know how the industry work ,, since i been doing this for so many years and been the subject of those pictures at time when younger....since i know how much those picture make fellas like sagi kalev appear bigger when sagi is not very big,, since i know how the before and afteer picture are taken and used to be taken within  4 weeks of eachother ,,since i know all of the methods used including photoshoping and air brushing ...i can garentee you liar priest is not fat there,, HE IS FATTER THAN YOU USED TO SEE HIM ,, he is 12% ,,some will say 15% yes..but no he is 12% 12-13% the water is what make you fellas think he is 20-22% ,, the  the water,, but even fellas not experienced much with bodybuild and hormones will tell you that he is 15% there,, they are wrong but even them will say it is 15% which is not 20% ,,

first thing when you look at this fella you think in the terms of HUGE,, little man but HUGE,, no one think in terms of huge thick muscle if someone is fat,, when you see samoan fellas you dont think in terms of huge thick muscles,, you think in terms of FATZOS big heavy fatzos,, in liar priest case you think in terms of big thick muscle in the so call fat pictures,, they were done specifically for a reason ,, it was done on special request to sell a produt and OHHH IT DID

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[dnduque]

Believe what u will...but aside from the occasional advil and caffiene...lifetime natural....41 years old today...gotta post before i out grow my childish vanity and/or my metabolism/dicipline starts acting it's age
....what's your guess...would be sweet if it was 4.1 for symmetry sake...

[Palpatine Q]

Believe what u will...but aside from the occasional advil and caffiene...lifetime natural....41 years old today...gotta post before i out grow my childish vanity and/or my metabolism/dicipline starts acting it's age
....what's your guess...would be sweet if it was 4.1 for symmetry sake...

You look fantastic.....Doubt the nattie claim though, unless you ARE the guy with the best genetics in the world.

[gh15]

Believe what u will...but aside from the occasional advil and caffiene...lifetime natural....41 years old today...gotta post before i out grow my childish vanity and/or my metabolism/dicipline starts acting it's age
....what's your guess...would be sweet if it was 4.1 for symmetry sake...

lol believe what he you want what? this is amphetamine physiqe,, like every natural out there that get anywhere and can reduce bodyfat and water

again i will repeat it once again ,, for everyone to see and get it in their head,,

HUMAN PHYSIQE EXPLAINED


GROW = HORMONES

CUT = SPECIFIC HORMONES AND AMPHETAMINES

can you get dry and hard with 6 pack at dry 5-6% naturaly? yes you can ...will it ever be truly natural? no it wont ,, why? because your sorry ass will use amphetamine in some form or another,,

you fellas need to understand the way the human body work,,

amphetamines such as ephedrine is the reason you see dry hard look on bodybuilder,,notice what happen first week you are on it...first 2 days lol first day! you hear in the gym if you are going to compete soon lol and this is after a day or 2 on ephedrina lol if you got some muscle ofcourse...but even if not always look leaner and better,,and the weight ...the good ole weight doesnt decrease ,, it decrease a little then stabelize then climb up few lb while at the same time lean you the fuck out and make you both drier and harder,,

this is the all secret of bodybuild ...knowing how to use amphetamines and hormones together ,, i can not believe i still need to reapet this,,

what do you think fellas just walk 200lb dry 6%?  lol i dont think many of you even know what it is to be detailed conditioned 6% dry if you think you can do it compeltely naturaly lol ,, even the true natrual use some amphetamines either via supp company who sell it legaly under the radar or via americana walmart ephedrina

i keep tellin you ephedrine make physiqe impressive ,, if you are on hormones you wil be shredded dry and everyone will be complimenting you

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[JZMB]

lol believe what he you want what? this is amphetamine physiqe,, like every natural out there that get anywhere and can reduce bodyfat and water

again i will repeat it once again ,, for everyone to see and get it in their head,,

HUMAN PHYSIQE EXPLAINED


GROW = HORMONES

CUT = SPECIFIC HORMONES AND AMPHETAMINES

can you get dry and hard with 6 pack at dry 5-6% naturaly? yes you can ...will it ever be truly natural? no it wont ,, why? because your sorry ass will use amphetamine in some form or another,,

you fellas need to understand the way the human body work,,

amphetamines such as ephedrine is the reason you see dry hard look on bodybuilder,,notice what happen first week you are on it...first 2 days lol first day! you hear in the gym if you are going to compete soon lol and this is after a day or 2 on ephedrina lol if you got some muscle ofcourse...but even if not always look leaner and better,,and the weight ...the good ole weight doesnt decrease ,, it decrease a little then stabelize then climb up few lb while at the same time lean you the fuck out and make you both drier and harder,,

this is the all secret of bodybuild ...knowing how to use amphetamines and hormones together ,, i can not believe i still need to reapet this,,

what do you think fellas just walk 200lb dry 6%?  lol i dont think many of you even know what it is to be detailed conditioned 6% dry if you think you can do it compeltely naturaly lol ,, even the true natrual use some amphetamines either via supp company who sell it legaly under the radar or via americana walmart ephedrina

i keep tellin you ephedrine make physiqe impressive ,, if you are on hormones you wil be shredded dry and everyone will be complimenting you

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Isnt Clen better than ephedrine??

I mean,, i've always thought that 'cause clen was anti-catabolic and stuff..

[apply85]

ephedrine is the only thing I ever used.

I don't have the genes to ever look big, or even cut really, I always carry a layer of water on me, but when I was at an old friend's birthday party she kept remarking on how built I look. I was like, I always trained, and she goes, but you never looked like this. I don't know if the differences are even measurable... I would say I had a little bit more thickness in my shoulder and chest area, and most importantly when I wasn't wearing my shirt the "shelf" that gh15 talks about only existed when I was on ephedrine. There was more pop in my chest and shoulders for sure. Even now I wanna say it was the training that did it, but how can that be, I always trained, it's gotta be the epherine

[gh15]

Isnt Clen better than ephedrine??

I mean,, i've always thought that 'cause clen was anti-catabolic and stuff..

who told you ephedrine is catabolic? lol  you either dont eat enough ,, or just use bunch load of it ,, epehdrine is better than clenbuterol infact MUCH better and much less risky

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[MuscleManiac]

Ok so when it comes to the T MET look (tren, test, mast, equip.) are guys doing this in the offseason with gh and slin or are they switching to the test/deca/dbol type cycles for offseason.

Also what happens because I have a preworkout from back in the day that still has ephedrine in it (kranker) so is it a bad idea to still use that in the offseason?

[gh15]

ephedrine is the only thing I ever used.

I don't have the genes to ever look big, or even cut really, I always carry a layer of water on me, but when I was at an old friend's birthday party she kept remarking on how built I look. I was like, I always trained, and she goes, but you never looked like this. I don't know if the differences are even measurable... I would say I had a little bit more thickness in my shoulder and chest area, and most importantly when I wasn't wearing my shirt the "shelf" that gh15 talks about only existed when I was on ephedrine. There was more pop in my chest and shoulders for sure. Even now I wanna say it was the training that did it, but how can that be, I always trained, it's gotta be the epherine

what  it was is the low bodyfat and lower water retention ,, and what did that ws the ephedrina and whatever else you were on ,,

girls dont see anything other than what they can see infront of their eyes,, same in gymnasium ,, you can se 240b fellas 12% looking at 180lb 6% fellas with jelousy in their eyes ,, why? because the muscles can be seen ,, the sculpted defined conditioned structures muscle can be seen and if you are build well and symetric and have the condition and the lean quality to yoru muscle ...even if it is not very big it will APEAR BIG,,

remember bodybuild is illusion ...you want to see the detail ,, you want to see it because this is only thing fellas out of the street can notice,, you cant walk to fellas in the street tell them ...excuse me sir but can you compliment me ...i have this deep lines in my delts and traps you just cant see it right now because im in offseason mod...but please just compliment me tell me if im a bodybuilder please sir,, can you please ask me if i compete....
doesnt work this way my friends,, you comment ONLY on what you can see,, unless you are a bodybuilder...then its diff because we know what to look for but most people are no bodybuilders ...they want to see! to see!

there is NO offseason

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[gh15]

Ok so when it comes to the T MET look (tren, test, mast, equip.) are guys doing this in the offseason with gh and slin or are they switching to the test/deca/dbol type cycles for offseason.

Also what happens because I have a preworkout from back in the day that still has ephedrine in it (kranker) so is it a bad idea to still use that in the offseason?

there is no offseason ,, offseason and on season for 200lb bodybuilder should be 10-15lb from competition weight MAX!

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[MuscleManiac]

wait what???

How do I make gains if I'm always at 250 at 5'10" when I have guys who are 5'7" and getting up to 267 in the offseason.

Are you saying I shouldn't be getting over 250 if I compete at 215 to 220. I've qualified for nationals but haven't competed there yet most likely next year.

I mean it would be a lot easier to stay at 250 then trying to get to 300...