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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2011, 07:31:51 PM »
I'm bigger and more muscular than him so i don't care
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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2011, 08:21:30 PM »
guy def has a pump in  the last pic. 

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2011, 12:48:06 PM »
Yawn ! I wish men would stop saying other men have 'pussy slaying physique's' ::).This place gets gayer everyday

Men like to slay pussy.  Stop judging us!  Just because I look at pictures of oiled up muscular dudes in a speedo doesn't mean I'm gay.......shit, maybe it does.
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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #103 on: November 10, 2011, 06:16:30 AM »
He doesn't progress at an astonishing rate from year 1 to 7. The pics were taken with full pumps. Not ripped, not even well conditioned. I'm not saying he's natural but I've seen black guys look far better that are natural. His formarms, traps, other visible bodyparts don't have that thick look you need drugs for. For the guys saying looking this good is impossible without drugs, learn how to train and stop reading all the nonsense chewed out by bodybuilding establishment (their goal is to get you to buy supps, looking for the 'secret').

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2011, 06:24:44 AM »
people call me tricky for particular reasons

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2011, 06:31:43 AM »
This topic...

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2011, 06:54:55 AM »
He doesn't progress at an astonishing rate from year 1 to 7. The pics were taken with full pumps. Not ripped, not even well conditioned. I'm not saying he's natural but I've seen black guys look far better that are natural. His formarms, traps, other visible bodyparts don't have that thick look you need drugs for. For the guys saying looking this good is impossible without drugs, learn how to train and stop reading all the nonsense chewed out by bodybuilding establishment (their goal is to get you to buy supps, looking for the 'secret').

You can post a pic of Christian Bale from The Machinist and some genius here will claim he's taking gear for all that mass.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2011, 07:07:45 AM »
You can post a pic of Christian Bale from The Machinist and some genius here will claim he's taking gear for all that mass.

bad example..as christian bale is a drug user.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2011, 07:24:33 AM »
bad example..as christian bale is a drug user.

"gear for all that mass" => drugs to attain that size. Not talking about rec drugs or his condition, just the size.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2011, 07:27:55 AM »
"gear for all that mass" => drugs to attain that size. Not talking about rec drugs or his condition, just the size.

he has used hormones to add mass and get in shape for movies...same as many other hollywood stars.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2011, 07:30:37 AM »
he has used hormones to add mass and get in shape for movies...same as many other hollywood stars.

I know that, I'm not naive. Can't you see from The Machinist reference that I'm saying some people here claim even the smallest of guys use drugs to get that "big"?

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #111 on: November 10, 2011, 07:33:31 AM »
He doesn't progress at an astonishing rate from year 1 to 7. The pics were taken with full pumps. Not ripped, not even well conditioned. I'm not saying he's natural but I've seen black guys look far better that are natural. His formarms, traps, other visible bodyparts don't have that thick look you need drugs for. For the guys saying looking this good is impossible without drugs, learn how to train and stop reading all the nonsense chewed out by bodybuilding establishment (their goal is to get you to buy supps, looking for the 'secret').


Hes as natural as a horses cock in your moms ass. Do you retards ever go outside? Goto gyms? HAve any real friends? That is an oral steroid or ph physique even from the 3 yr mark. Low dose doesnt abuse good genetics to put on mass. Can also be test prop 350-500 mg wk

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #112 on: November 10, 2011, 07:34:20 AM »
Those pics are of me. I would’ve posted sooner in this thread, but had to wait for my account to be approved which took a while. I’m flattered that someone took my pics and then discussed my physique for 5 pages…lol. For the record, I AM NATURAL. No offense to anyone that isn’t, but that's just a personal choice that I have made. I made this choice because any possible side efffect or risk to my health just isn’t worth it. My health is my top priority. I was able to achieve my physique over the course of 7 years. If my progress was made over 7 months, then that just wouldn’t be possible naturally. It’s not like I’m super shredded at a ridiculously low competition bodyfat. I’m currently 25yrs old, 6’1 225lbs at around ~13% bf. Oh, and my after pics are pumped post workout in the gym locker room…lol. I don't walk around with that pump all day everyday.

Background:
I was able to achieve my physique with discipline. This fall marks 7 years of consistent training for me. Right out of high school I weighed ~180lbs and never played a sport. I started lifting freshman year in college in the fall of 2004 at 18yrs old and since then have made some pretty good progress over years. The most noticeable change in my physique can be seen in my current pics when I cut out eating processed foods and began eating a stricter clean bulk diet this past year. I was able to get slightly bigger and leaner as a result.

Routine:
I rarely take a break unless I go on vacation or get sick and that's just for a couple of days. Over the past 7 years, the most that I've taken off from the gym was either a few days at the min to 3 weeks to a month max because of extenuating circumstances like going back to school, exams, and no access to a gym etc. Once you start making progress, it can be very addicting and become a healthy obsession. A lot of it is mental too. If I don't go to the gym then I start to feel horrible and guilty.
I started out just working chest/triceps, back and biceps twice a week and not much else. My approach was very simplistic. I just lifted as heavy as I could and drank a shake post workout. Over the years my training has evolved into a 5 day split to target each muscle group and work out all body parts evenly to be proportioned. I lift 5 days a week (off Monday and Friday) and lift one muscle group a day. If I skip a day lifting, then that day automatically becomes my next lifting day.

Diet:
My approach to diet and building muscle is very simplistic. Believe it or not but I've never counted calories in my life. I simply focus on the grams of protein per serving and content. My main sources of protein are lean meats, shakes, veggies and healthy carbs. I spend $100+ a week on food and consume 230 grams of protein on lifting days. I follow a strict diet and literally eat the same foods 6 days a week with only one cheat day.

Supplements:
The only supplements that I've ever taken are protein, fish oil and a multi-vitamin. I don't drink any kind of caffeine or preworkouts. People easily get to addicted to that stuff.

You'd be surprised what the human body is capable of naturally. All it takes is patience, consistency and discipline.
I probably won't get much bigger than this, but I'm still learning what my body is capable of.



1 Year of Lifting (~190lbs)



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6 Years of Lifting (~220lbs)




Me Today: 7 Years of Lifting (225lbs)





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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #113 on: November 10, 2011, 07:36:59 AM »
I know that, I'm not naive. Can't you see from The Machinist reference that I'm saying some people here claim even the smallest of guys use drugs to get that "big"?

yes, you (some) can build a good physique with zero drugs.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #114 on: November 10, 2011, 07:39:14 AM »
Your biceps are huge everything else is reasonable for drug free.  However u arent a lifetime natural and its always the black dudes that have to much pride to admit it. Y the fuck did you write so much in ur post. No1 gives a shit

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #115 on: November 10, 2011, 07:40:06 AM »
yes, you (some) can build a good physique with zero drugs.

Not according to the "experts" here. The ones that started juicing 3 months after they started lifting and the ones with the shittiest genetics are the experts who know what's possible and what's not, lol.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2011, 07:45:30 AM »
Not according to the "experts" here. The ones that started juicing 3 months after they started lifting and the ones with the shittiest genetics are the experts who know what's possible and what's not, lol.

they are idiots and it's sort of a defense mechanism for them.

that being said, i'm pretty sure you and me don't agree about what is possible as a natural. but I do get your point.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2011, 07:48:26 AM »
Not according to the "experts" here. The ones that started juicing 3 months after they started lifting and the ones with the shittiest genetics are the experts who know what's possible and what's not, lol.

Actually all the guys that "juice" here have very impressive builds, moron.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2011, 07:51:30 AM »
Actually all the guys that "juice" here have very impressive builds, moron.

Yeah, like Arvilla, Billy Guns and lots more right? You haven't seen all of the guys here that juice yet, shit for brains.

And don't call me moron - I'm not your father.

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2011, 07:54:07 AM »
I have no motive or reason to lie. I'm not a bodybuilder, nor do I have any sponsors. I simply lift because I enjoy it. Just because I look good doesn't mean that I'm on something...lol. I'm not about to go back and forth arguing with you guys about it. If you don't believe me based on the information that I provided above with progress pics, then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. Good luck guys!

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2011, 08:12:02 AM »
Yeah, like Arvilla, Billy Guns and lots more right? You haven't seen all of the guys here that juice yet, shit for brains.

And don't call me moron - I'm not your father.


You names 2 outcasts in their mid 30s who suck at life.  My guess is you live in the middle of nowhere america, really i wonder what your life consists of you have nearly 20000 posts on a bodybuilding board yet you refute the use of hormones im recreational lifters. Please go hang yourself "kiwiol"

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2011, 08:14:56 AM »
Natty growth stops WAAAAAYYYYY before 3-5 years....if you train right....but yeah, most people spend the first few years doing everything wrong.

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« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2011, 08:22:34 AM »

You names 2 outcasts in their mid 30s who suck at life.  My guess is you live in the middle of nowhere america, really i wonder what your life consists of you have nearly 20000 posts on a bodybuilding board yet you refute the use of hormones im recreational lifters. Please go hang yourself "kiwiol"

Don't live in America and I disproved your stupid post that EVERYONE who juices looks great. I never said that rec lifters don't do drugs, just saying not every single one of them is on it. And that's not a reference to guys like Layne Norton or whoever. You're typical of the idiots who claim to know what someone is using by just looking at their pics and always gets it wrong, just like your analysis of me.

Maybe you should stop parroting gh15 and get the IOC to employ you and your amazing talent - they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars testing athletes for drugs and you can save them all that money by simply looking at the athlete and saying what they're on.

And I won't hang myself - who's gonna fuck your mom in the ass if I do? ;D

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #123 on: November 10, 2011, 08:32:47 AM »
Yawn ! I wish men would stop saying other men have 'pussy slaying physique's' ::).This place gets gayer everyday

Lettuce be reality, thats what majority of guys are here to achieve, infact most things we do as guys in life is to aquire more/better quality pussy.... very few are here with the views of one day to standing on a stage lathered in fake tan in posing trunks....

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Re: This guy claims NATURAL - 7 year progress
« Reply #124 on: November 10, 2011, 08:34:08 AM »
Don't live in America and I disproved your stupid post that EVERYONE who juices looks great. I never said that rec lifters don't do drugs, just saying not every single one of them is on it. And that's not a reference to guys like Layne Norton or whoever. You're typical of the idiots who claim to know what someone is using by just looking at their pics and always gets it wrong, just like your analysis of me.

Maybe you should stop parroting gh15 and get the IOC to employ you and your amazing talent - they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars testing athletes for drugs and you can save them all that money by simply looking at the athlete and saying what they're on.

And I won't hang myself - who's gonna fuck your mom in the ass if I do? ;D


Lol europeans still using the same humor we used in elementary school. Listen buddy, get a life. Go watch ur batman collection and play with your action figures while rallying up your impressive post count. Verdict: Kiwiols a fag becase he has 85000 posts and not one pic
Of himself and the negro is not a lifetime natural.  Case closed