Help - stuck at this body weight? What do I do?

[gh15]

Please provide proof.

I thought so!

you dont need to be provided anything,, KNOW YOUR PLACE,, your place is not at knowing who i am ,, if i wanted you to you would,, i told you the way i rule is with iron fist,, i have compassion but im very good at doing what i say and saying what i do,,from reading the bible 10 min ,, ony 10 min you would know i was DEEP IN ,, any serious bodybuuilder would know it ...and so do you ...but you chose to play balonie and again what ewlse can you do with your brain half dead and body in catabolic state eating its own flesh ...so you sit on thunderdome and as said before GO WITH THE FLOW...those are the go with the flow fellas...they go where ever the win blows,,they got NO SPINE

gh15 approved

[wes]

i love bodybuilding,, i grew hate for the cult,, some of it...not all thats why i had to bring new blood in and i did it,, as you can see old blood like wes...is still there ,, he know how huge what i did is ...but yet like a godo ole geezer he stick to his balonie,, he make surre he go to his steroid boardings and bump a source or ...beg him in email to send him this and that..or kiss my elfs ass on a boarding...those are the old fellas mentality ,,

reality of the matter is....the cult ws very filty ,, very very filty LOTS ND LOTS OF DRUG ADDICTS AND SERIOUS DRUG ADDICTS,,

i decided to change it and i did,,

i was one of those too in the past ,, i was,, i want a narcotic addict but i was a liar ,, i sold balonie to wanna be bodybuilders,, im ashamed of it,, and i swore that when im dead the bodybuild cult will look diff,, i think i did amazing job in 6-7 years as of now im on every aspect of internet,, i dont even do those things i dont know how to do it i have elfs and good fellas who do this and they shoudl be comended for it,, the cult has been changing for the better,,

most of next generation profesionals are gh15 approved with my stamp on them,, you always start from the buttom up ...you build things from the buttom up and this is what i did with gh15

gh15 approved

[wes]

you dont need to be provided anything,, KNOW YOUR PLACE,, your place is not at knowing who i am ,, if i wanted you to you would,, i told you the way i rule is with iron fist,, i have compassion but im very good at doing what i say and saying what i do,,from reading the bible 10 min ,, ony 10 min you would know i was DEEP IN ,, any serious bodybuuilder would know it ...and so do you ...but you chose to play balonie and again what ewlse can you do with your brain half dead and body in catabolic state eating its own flesh ...so you sit on thunderdome and as said before GO WITH THE FLOW...those are the go with the flow fellas...they go where ever the win blows,,they got NO SPINE

gh15 approved

I got more balls than you ..........I use my real name. 

[Benoitlapierre]

it my real name n it's me n im truly goin for national


 i will make this clear : natural bodybuilding it's fucking boring , be on stage at a girl weight lol

you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either

 it's not true when you look like frank sepe you slay pussy, i did have in past th 6 abs surfboard model body n i intimidate girls, of course they look at you but nothing happen , they think they're not in shape enough for you insecure and sleep alone

 at 250 pounds , full hgh , in club th girl will jump on you of course it's 2% of th girls , but you can fuck, and muscle mass doesnt mean masculinity but it they're mind it is ,,, they want to be ground n pounds violentl,,y i always encounter amazing sex partners be a big guy

 and train naturally lol ,,, fucking amazingly lame

so leafy bug ,, stack up th hgh ,, welcome to modern bodybuilding ,,, where being freak it's fun

[gh15]

 

you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either

 

see this sentence friends?

this is maybe the most important sentence said in the thunderdome in all its existance,, this is a what a real bodybuild will tell you ,, this is how legit bodybuild think ,, and this is legit bodybuild tell you truth to your face,,

middle weight ! natural! yes you can make it ...NO YOU WILL NOT BE ON ANY COVER..

this! is the truth loud and clear

gh15 approved

[L.L]

fuck the natty scum....die for mass

[Vince B]

You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?
The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.
You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.
This #### has to be the biggest retard on this site, Howard included.

You know bugger all. Just a guy who knocks others who have original ideas. Milos wouldn't listen to me. Luke Wood was invited to come to my gym for help with his triceps. He never showed up. I guess most take the easy way and believe it is all drugs. I know what I am talking about. 2 inches on Dan in 4 months guaranteed.

[gh15]

you wantn see a liar...now this! ^^ is a liar

gh15 approved

[Vince B]

gh15 claims he never lies. Well, I don't lie, distort or exaggerate anything I say about bodybuilders, bodybuilding, gyms, gym equipment, or the Irongame. It is called integrity. I also post under my own name. That takes a lot of guts, especially on forums like this. gh15 is an anonymous nobody like the rest of the flotsam. Put him on a barge adrift on the ocean....he is done here.

[gh15]

gh15 claims he never lies. Well, I don't lie, distort or exaggerate anything I say about bodybuilders, bodybuilding, gyms, gym equipment, or the Irongame. It is called integrity. I also post under my own name. That takes a lot of guts, especially on forums like this. gh15 is an anonymous nobody like the rest of the flotsam. Put him on a barge adrift on the ocean....he is done here.

again ,, you have no igf in blood,, one look at you show 2 things,, a fella that is BOTH SMALL AND FAT! you have catabolizm hitting and lack of igf...its combination of age and just no practical knowlegd of horomones needed to maintain a physiqe,,

what you achieved in past which ws nothing was by hormones usage...what you achieve now is nothing due to HORMONES LACKING,, you just cant grow..if you can show it here

gh15 approved

[Vince B]

again ,, you have no igf in blood,, one look at you show 2 things,, a fella that is BOTH SMALL AND FAT! you have catabolizm hitting and lack of igf...its combination of age and just no practical knowlegd of horomones needed to maintain a physiqe,,

what you achieved in past which ws nothing was by hormones usage...what you achieve now is nothing due to HORMONES LACKING,, you just cant grow..if you can show it here

gh15 approved

I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.

Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?

[notsureifsrs]

it my real name n it's me n im truly goin for national


 i will make this clear : natural bodybuilding it's fucking boring , be on stage at a girl weight lol

you wont see a middleweight on a flex cover, no one give a shit who' th lightheavy universe n no one know who he is either

 it's not true when you look like frank sepe you slay pussy, i did have in past th 6 abs surfboard model body n i intimidate girls, of course they look at you but nothing happen , they think they're not in shape enough for you insecure and sleep alone

 at 250 pounds , full hgh , in club th girl will jump on you of course it's 2% of th girls , but you can fuck, and muscle mass doesnt mean masculinity but it they're mind it is ,,, they want to be ground n pounds violentl,,y i always encounter amazing sex partners be a big guy

 and train naturally lol ,,, fucking amazingly lame

so leafy bug ,, stack up th hgh ,, welcome to modern bodybuilding ,,, where being freak it's fun

well he doesn't look too small tho...

I`m old,but not frustrated one bit..............hopeful ly I`ll get even older.

You achieved greatness,but cannot fucking prove it to me so don`t mention it to me again please.

I could care less about trophies,got plenty of them collecting dust in my barn...........I do this to reach goals of getting into condition as I age......it`s my lifestyle.

You know your drugs,but so do many many others,the difference is they didn`t create a gimmick persona and tell people to take tons of shit.

Most top guys knew what it took anyway or they wouldn`t be at the top.............or did you show them the light?

After a certain amount of time most trainees realize that protein powder and creatine just don`t cut it.

No they don't, because they want you to pay them and than you will hear the same gh15 advices and much more harsh ones.
do you think that
Hany Rambod
Chris Aceto
Oscar Ardon
Neil Hill
George Farah
Milos Sarcev
Victor Munoz
Shelby Starnes
Fakhri Mubarak

will give you  training and diet advices that will make you win shows?
i can tell that they wont, few might provide you worthy tips, but they are all there to give you drug advices and you can make sure they will be way more harsh than gh15's, and if you don't believe me than why don't you pick a few of them and pay them to prove it to yourself ?

[Max B]

I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.

Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?

Jesus i truly feel bad for you old man. Because i was raised to respect my elders i will not insult you like all these other goons but u truly should stop posting

[Vince B]

This is to gh15. I call bullshit that you are a pro bodybuilder and I will tell you why. They don't come online and put shit on other guys who compete. Why? Well, they all know that each of them has to make difficult decisions about what to do, what to take, how to pay bills and everything else associated with the cult. That is the sorry state of bodybuilding and it seems to be getting worse as the years go by.

Why bag guys like Phil Heath? Makes no sense. Why would the believers on Getbig worry about exactly what drug protocols he used? I fail to see how some are superior, ethically, to others. It is all cheating and it has been going on for decades. I certainly don't accept your value system as applied to bodybuilders, society, America or even women. Nope, you are cynical but in the end it is just one sour opinion.

A champion wouldn't discourage anyone from trying to improve himself. Sorry, but you have the ethics of the unwashed flotsam. You have to remain anonymous because either howls of laughter would occur or you would be finished in the Irongame.

I am on a mission to prove that even someone my age can build a good physique without resorting to all that shit in your 'bible'.

[gh15]

I haven't had any blood tests to determine hormone levels. It is my belief that causing hypertrophy in a persistent fashion will stimulate what is needed for growth. That is exactly what is happening and it is a good feeling. My gains in the past were hardly from steroids. 2 Dianabol tablets for a couple of months didn't do much in the seventies on a few occasions. I got a bit stronger and my pecs grew the first time I tried them. On other occasions the effect was almost non-existent so I abandoned use of those drugs. Compare that with what is recommended today. Light years apart and you know it.

Why knock someone having a go at building himself up naturally?

vince basile,, you rememebr the show with basikl faulty? faulty towers,, i cant take you serious everytime you spit your balonie this is what come to my head...BASIL FAULTY lol

you got no igf in your blood,, your hgh realse is minimal at best if at all,, you cant grow with out igf ,,the reason bodybuild grow is IGF execc igf in blood,, this is the main reason for lean growth ,, the aas blow it up with water from the inside but the growth of fibers and actualy muscle dimention increase the more igf you have...you BASIL lol do not have igf,, end of case!

now i want you to watch this,, this is absolitly one of gh15 most fabortite actors and shows in history ,, i want my pupils to watch it too ,, especialy the new generation so they know what great is....


this is for you basil

watch both of them ,, gh15 has a lot of faulty in it when it come to humour


enjoy,,part 2 is what you want to watch if you are generation nothingness and dont have pacient for nothing,,

gh15 approved

[Figo]

Vince,

I've only ever seen one or two pics of you in your heyday, mr canada days

Do you have anymore pics? To see what 2 dbols a day can do..

[wes]

well he doesn't look too small tho...



No they don't, because they want you to pay them and than you will hear the same gh15 advices and much more harsh ones.
do you think that
Hany Rambod
Chris Aceto
Oscar Ardon
Neil Hill
George Farah
Milos Sarcev
Victor Munoz
Shelby Starnes
Fakhri Mubarak

will give you  training and diet advices that will make you win shows?
i can tell that they wont, few might provide you worthy tips, but they are all there to give you drug advices and you can make sure they will be way more harsh than gh15's, and if you don't believe me than why don't you pick a few of them and pay them to prove it to yourself ?

I know this,and I totally agree with you.

Why shouldn`t those guys make a buck if possible.

Not every huge national competitor has used any of these guys,or taken gh15s advice....see my point?

It`s all about upping the dosage....we`re not talking about kids begining training in their basement and posting on bb.com.

In other words,he didn`t do anything except bring this info here under the guise of a gimmick character.....also doesn`t mean he`s a pro as he claims but cannot prove.

As I said,his advice is good,his bullshit stories,not so good, and usually bordering on the ridiculous.

On a sidenote,some of his exhorbitant amounts recommended are still not going to make most guys pros or even top amatuers if everything else is not in order.......they`ll just be bigger versions of whatever they looked like prior to taking his advice.

So if the guy looked like shit,he`d just look like a bigger pile of shit with lots less money.

Speaking on money,how does anyone know that gh15 isn`t getting kickbacks from the sources he recommends?

[gh15]

I know this,and I totally agree with you.

Why shouldn`t those guys make a buck if possible.

Not every huge national competitor has used any of these guys,or taken gh15s advice....see my point?

It`s all about upping the dosage....we`re not talking about kids begining training in their basement and posting on bb.com.

In other words,he didn`t do anything except bring this info here under the guise of a gimmick character.....also doesn`t mean he`s a pro as he claims but cannot prove.

As I said,his advice is good,his bullshit stories,not so good, and usually bordering on the ridiculous.

On a sidenote,some of his exhorbitant amounts recommended are still not going to make most guys pros or even top amatuers if everything else is not in order.......they`ll just be bigger versions of whatever they looked like prior to taking his advice.

So if the guy looked like shit,he`d just look like a bigger pile of shit with lots less money.

Speaking on money,how does anyone know that gh15 isn`t getting kickbacks from the sources he recommends?

i suggest you to keep to yourself insted of trying to tlel im being bribed,, this is straight again assumptions,, the way i approve a source is through my elfs using their products and there is never a bribe,, never ever,, my storys are real ,, when i say i did something that means it was done,, again ,, you are a member of steroid boardings this is how you get your hormones correct? didnt you see what i did on steroid boardings? didnt you see when i promise something the places get cleaned,, look into the past.....loook into the past if you have any clue you would know i do not just talk i walk the walk ,,

my advice is not good it is GOLD,, it is the only way to become profesional ,, and you can become profesional with half ass genetic ask lee apperson and dan hill,, it all a mater of products and timing and ofcourse dosing,, along with other things ,, there are many useless thing i eliminated from bodybuilding such as pct such as lots of anti estrogens and many other things,, i brought huge change and this is what frastraing to many filt convicts around the cult,, but rest assure NOTHING can stop gh15

gh15 approved

[wes]

I didn`t assume you got kickbacks,I just asked how would anybody know if you did or not.

Nobody knows but you........I could truly care less either way.

[_bruce_]

You would not put a single millimeter on Leafy's arms after having him clean out. You couldn't even stop the inevitable loss of diameter as in loss of actual muscle tissue. Why do you talk about drug users when you admit you haven't a clue about drugs?

The only way his arms would "grow" is if you hit his arms with a ruler for a few hours every day and had him overtrain so they swelled up with fluid due to inflammation. OR if you fattened him up, but then it would be just that, fat.

You could put Leafy on all possible performance enhancing drugs AS well as your training program and those 2 inches would not happen in that time span. Not even close.

This #### has to be the biggest retard on this site, Howard included.

Hahahaha - what a mean way to destroy dreams of the elderly.

[dj181]

How lean will he be though ? Anyone can put size on by eating alot more and training but how much is muscle vs fat and water.
To put an inch on an advanced trainer like leafy he will be looking at a 10 - 15 pound body weight increase, so a 20 - 30 pd increase in bodyweight for 2 inches of lean tissue in 4 months . Sorry Vince no way , he couldnt do that with steroids , they speed up recovery and put size on faster than a natty could ever dream of but even with the help of thee drugs he couldnt do that - lean mass here not fat, 2 inches of fat/muscle/water then yes but he will look like ass.

Spot on post right there!

[LittleJ]

again wes,, this is a problem many of your generation have ,, they didnt have gh15...they didnt realize its all in the igf release,, they didnt understand that a fella is = parelel develoment to its igf realese this is what make ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the diff between profesional and amatuer in low ranks,,yes muscle shape matter but not even remotely close to igf in blood,,igf is EVERYTHBING,,

trophy is not what you need to concentrate on ,, you are an older bodybuild,, im not yhoung either but i achieved and got to greatness in bodybuilding,, i then decided to  help the kids of today to become bodybuilders insted of them ending up old and frastrated,, i should be commended for that and i am ,, i have 100s of thank you letters a week from female and males from yongsters and oldsters,, again the fact i dont posting them doesnt mean they are not there,,

if gh15 was balonie gh15 wouud be gone in 2006 about 6 months into its postings

gh15 approved

Gh15 is the worst thing that happen to getbig.

[stuntmovie]

In an attempt to get back on track here ...... does MOLNER resemble LEAF or does he not?

Molnar has 'more time in grade', but LEAF will catch up and pass for his bigger twin brother.

I leave room for argument though.

[WillGrant]

In an attempt to get back on track here ...... does MOLNER resemble LEAF or does he not?

Molnar has 'more time in grade', but LEAF will catch up and pass for his bigger twin brother.

I leave room for argument though.

Great shape on this fellow

[pellius]

Gh15 is the worst thing that happen to getbig.

You leave GetBig and no one will ever notice you've left. Your contributions, influence and impact on this board is pretty much zero. No one comes even remotely close to the influence and impact on this board and bodybuilding boards all over the world than gh15.

He is the best thing to happen to GetBig and all the internet bodybuilding boards. There were times when there long periods where he didn't post. People would start asking about him. Where is he? Why doesn't he answer PMs? You think a single person will ask about you if you stopped posting?