Author Topic: UFC - Junior Dos Santos defeats Cain Velasquez (Read 11899 times)

outby43 · « **Reply #50 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:02:03 PM »

Quote from: Nails on November 12, 2011, 06:57:47 PM

Cain looked fat and slow... you need to give cain your business card coach

That action has been the demise of many potential great fighters. Not advisable at all.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #51 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:04:07 PM »

Look, I really wanted Cain to win but like most fighters they hate to train with weights. Me and my wife were saying how soft Cain looked. All Cardio and little muscle. Its VERY difficult to get these guys out of the old school mentality and convince them the stronger thery are the more successful they will be and also extend they're careers because they will have less injuries. That's why I only train a few..and even that's a pain in the ass.

TheTrueVictor · « **Reply #52 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:05:32 PM »

So this is why I don't watch UFC...shit ends QUICK!

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #53 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:06:16 PM »

Obviously outback hasn't kept up with my record of trained fighters this year. Oh well. I guess I'm the herman cain/sarah palin of the boards..lol

G_Thang · « **Reply #54 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:06:53 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 12, 2011, 07:04:07 PM

Look, I really wanted Cain to win but like most fighters they hate to train with weights. Me and my wife were saying how soft Cain looked. All Cardio and little muscle. Its VERY difficult to get these guys out of the old school mentality and convince them the stronger thery are the more successful they will be and also extend they're careers because they will have less injuries. That's why I only train a few..and even that's a pain in the ass.

when the last time you seen a b e a n e r with good genetics for muscle? the men are built as bad as the women. not hating indie lad, just facts. let me know.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #55 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:10:15 PM »

What do you mean by genetics? Genetics for what? Cains a great fighter. But you can tell who trained for strength and who didn't.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #56 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:10:30 PM »

  - Extremely technical boxing, combining speed, power and precision like no other.

  - Supreme takedown defenses.

  - Has a reputation for being a BJJ black belt who is fantastic at getting submissions from his back. We have never seen it in the UFC because he never gets taken down.

  JDS = invincible

  This guy will be the heavyweight champion for as long as he wants. I wouldn't go as far as calling him the next Fedor, but he is the first truly great heavyweight in the World since Fedor's decline. The only guy who can beat him is a very skilled Muay Thai fighter who uses kicks with precision, and there is no one like this in the heavyweight division besides Overeem. I think Overeem is the only guy with a realistic chance of beating him. No wrestler or BJJ guy will succeed against this guy and surviving a boxing match against him is out of the question.

  Evidence that JDS is invincible = he did to 280 lbs Shane Carwin what a grown man would do to a 14 year-old punk if for some mistake he were judged as an adult and put together in a cell with the grown men.

  More evidence = undefeated heavyweight champ and college wrestling champion, Cain Velasquez, couldn't take him down no matter how much he tried and failed to hit him more than once while getting clipped several times consecutively, and then got KOd by a perfect spinning right punch from a ridiculous distance where JDS threw his head down and stretched his arm more than a mile far away. Incredible. Cain was completely brutalized and dominated. He couldn't do anything against JDS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

G_Thang · « **Reply #57 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:13:05 PM »

why didnt you post this before the fight, so we know you arent just bandwagon jumping? go blow one of you PM booty chasers.

Nails · « **Reply #58 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:13:25 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on November 12, 2011, 07:10:15 PM

What do you mean by genetics? Genetics for what? Cains a great fighter. But you can tell who trained for strength and who didn't.

they had a promo on fox where they were punching heavy bags, and you can see the fat shake on cain from the lats, the tits and worst the triceps, looked like a soft Gansito (mexican twinkie)

Swede! · « **Reply #59 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:14:12 PM »

Brock called this ....Before the fight. If cain could take jds down he would win. If now jds would. Cain "tried" once. then nighty night

Nails · « **Reply #60 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:15:37 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on November 12, 2011, 07:10:30 PM

- Extremely technical boxing, combining speed, power and precision like no other.

  - Supreme takedown defenses.

  - Has a reputation for being a BJJ black belt who is fantastic at getting submissions from his back. We have never seen it in the UFC because he never gets taken down.

  JDS = invincible

  This guy will be the heavyweight champion for as long as he wants. I wouldn't go as far as calling him the next Fedor, but he is the first truly great heavyweight in the World since Fedor's decline. The only guy who can beat him is a very skilled Muay Thai fighter who uses kicks with precision, and there is no one like this in the heavyweight division besides Overeem. I think Overeem is the only guy with a realistic chance of beating him. No wrestler or BJJ guy will succeed against this guy and surviving a boxing match against him is out of the question.

  Evidence that JDS is invincible = he did to 280 lbs Shane Carwin what a grown man would do to a 14 year-old punk if for some mistake he were judged as an adult and put together in a cell with the grown men.

  More evidence = undefeated heavyweight champ and college wrestling champion, Cain Velasquez, couldn't take him down no matter how much he tried and failed to hit him more than once while getting clipped several times consecutively, and then got KOd by a perfect spinning right punch from a ridiculous distance where JDS threw his head down and stretched his arm more than a mile far away. Incredible. Cain was completely brutalized and dominated. He couldn't do anything against JDS.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

You got all that from a 15 sec fight

Benoitlapierre · « **Reply #61 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:16:04 PM »

i was impress . 1.04 wow

Swede! · « **Reply #62 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:16:57 PM »

We should remember, Roy Nelson, stood and Banged with JDS for 3 full rounds. Got the shit beat out of him but never stopped going forward.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #63 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:17:22 PM »

Quote from: G_Thang on November 12, 2011, 07:13:05 PM

why didnt you post this before the fight, so we know you arent just bandwagon jumping? go blow one of you PM booty chasers.

Hey, idiot, did you read the title of my thread? It's called "Welcome to the Junior dos Santos Era". By definition, his era only started after he won the belt(his era as the best heavyweight in the World). So it would be impossible for me to have made this thread before he won the belt since his era didn't exist at that time. You are one stupid fuck.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

chaos · « **Reply #64 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:17:25 PM »

JDS didn't move his front leg once when Cain kicked him several times.
Cain tried one half assed single leg takedown.
I like JDS and his fighting style, lets see how long he can hold the belt.

Nails · « **Reply #65 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:18:15 PM »

Quote from: TheTrueVictor on November 12, 2011, 07:05:32 PM

So this is why I don't watch UFC...shit ends QUICK!

UFC.....

Swede! · « **Reply #66 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:18:30 PM »

Quote from: chaos on November 12, 2011, 07:17:25 PM

JDS didn't move his front leg once when Cain kicked him several times.

100$ says you Read this somewhere and didn't notice it yourself

che · « **Reply #67 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:19:11 PM »

Quote from: Nails on November 12, 2011, 07:18:15 PM

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #68 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:19:56 PM »

Quote from: Nails on November 12, 2011, 07:15:37 PM

You got all that from a 15 sec fight

No, I got that from watching all his fights, and my assesment was confirmed tonight by watching what he did to Cain.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

chaos · « **Reply #69 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:23:33 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on November 12, 2011, 07:18:30 PM

100$ says you Read this somewhere and didn't notice it yourself

Have you ever been kicked? I mean by a conscious adult, not a drunk invalid.

I notice those things every fight, those "little" slaps to the calf/knee/thigh hurt and hurt bad. Really should be checked as much as possible.

Swede! · « **Reply #70 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:25:41 PM »

Quote from: chaos on November 12, 2011, 07:23:33 PM

Have you ever been kicked? I mean by a conscious adult, not a drunk invalid.
I notice those things every fight, those "little" slaps to the calf/knee/thigh hurt and hurt bad. Really should be checked as much as possible.

yes... most poeple havent gotten a clue how much damage they do. but I didnt know you knew stuff like that.

Rumor is jds came into this fight with a meniscus injury and couldnt throw punched without it hurting. I guess hes happy it finished fast. Or its just bs doesn't matter though.

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91736/1/watch-ufc-post-fight-press-conference.html

post fight press conferense soon

paq stream http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/91372/2/watch-boxing:-pacquiao-vs-marquez.html

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #71 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:27:38 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on November 12, 2011, 07:16:57 PM

We should remember, Roy Nelson, stood and Banged with JDS for 3 full rounds. Got the shit beat out of him but never stopped going forward.

Bad example...Roy Nelson is a brawler with an absurdly tough chin. He "survived" 3 rounds getting the shit beaten out of him and no one else in the heavyweight division will be able to do that. There are a lot of fighters in the heavyweight division who are better than Roy Nelson, but no one has his chin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Swede! · « **Reply #72 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:29:09 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on November 12, 2011, 07:27:38 PM

Bad example...Roy Nelson is a brawler with an absurdly tough chin. He "survived" 3 rounds getting the shit beaten out of him and no one else in the heavyweight division will be able to do that. There are a lot of fighters in the heavyweight division who are better than Roy Nelson, but no one has his chin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

I was mentioning it to show what a tough fucker Roy is. Not skill wise hence why i said ...he got the shit kicked out of him.
Good fighter though especially now when hes lost some fat. I want to see him in 202 though

che · « **Reply #73 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:32:34 PM »

Quote from: Swede! on November 12, 2011, 07:29:09 PM

I was mentioning it to show what a tough fucker Roy is. Not skill wise hence why i said ...he got the shit kicked out of him.

Actually I think Roy Nelson is one of the most skilled heavyweights in the UFC, problem is that he's not athletic and he gets tired easily.

chaos · « **Reply #74 on:** November 12, 2011, 07:34:20 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on November 12, 2011, 07:27:38 PM

Bad example...Roy Nelson is a brawler with an absurdly tough chin. He "survived" 3 rounds getting the shit beaten out of him and no one else in the heavyweight division will be able to do that. There are a lot of fighters in the heavyweight division who are better than Roy Nelson, but no one has his chin.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

How many rounds did JDS punch Carwin in the face