IFBB Pro Pre-Workout Drug Protocol

[Aussie Duffman]

Doubtful that is true.  Not a single pro I know uses any insulin of any kind pre workout.  Let alone 50ius of it.  You would have to be jugging straight sugar water the entire workout.

4units in locker room 2litres flat pepsi with creatine while working out , 4 units after then half of the one kilo of pasta salami olive oil and twelve eggs with cheese pasta bake you made last night , and protein drink,half hour later the other half of pasta ,then another half hour chicken and rice with sauce

[dustin]

all those pde-5 inhibitors give me headaches in the back of my head, where an artery runs on the left side. ace inhibitors and other vasodialators do the exact same thing for me.

you are right that pde-5 inhibitors work bettr in the dick but they are still vasodialators and classified as such. i don't feel a difference between using vigra/cialis and other vasodialators, except the former gives me boners that won't go away.

Same here, bro. I can't tolerate that stuff well. I get migraines so stuff like this is no good.

The gym-boner novelty also wears off very quickly... unfortunately, the boner itself doesn't LOL

[FAST LANE]

lol at the viagra.. even if it is a vasodialator,(which I guess in essence it is) what benefit does it have PWO?  And holy shit at 15iu Nubain.. but then again if your in the know, these guys most likely are hooked on Nubain and carry their syringes with them at all times,, probably multiple shots a day

[chess315]

this stuff he comes up with anyone with any knowledge of bodybuilding drugs could. Its just logical mega dosing

[Big N]

Awaiting gh15's response...

[JUMPER]

how the heck do you consume that many carbs during the workout when taking that much slin?

[farrellzach]

how the heck do you consume that many carbs during the workout when taking that much slin?

When you're on the amount of GH they are, you don't need to consume as many carbs. Also you have drinks like karbolyn, or just soda as Dusty Hanshaw has shown in videos.

[wes]

Three words  - fucking ridiculously crazy.

[Wolfsanglerune]

that was pretty interesting...had me up till ten minutes pre workout tho.

[no one]

Doubtful that is true.  Not a single pro I know uses any insulin of any kind pre workout.  Let alone 50ius of it.  You would have to be jugging straight sugar water the entire workout.

lol ok...

even i was using 10iu of humalog pre workout and i had no aspirations ever competing again.

[Benny B]

lol ok...

even i was using 10iu of humalog pre workout and i had no aspirations ever competing again.

obviously, you are a complete idiot

[AlphaMaleDawg]

doesn't seem that far fetched really. I'd like to see the intra workout carb drink and the post workout protocol

[wes]

Wonder what he does after training,and between workouts ?

[BFG]

In regards to insulin - humalog and humulin-r have different release time-frames so they peak at different points. The person in question (or anyone using this protocol) would not need ~500 grams of carbs during their workout. I do not have this specific bodybuilder's intra and post workout protocol but I can't imagine it would be any different than what most of the pros (and top amateurs) are doing.

I already posted the in depth protocol in a previous thread but heres what I assume it would look like (summarized):

2 hours pre workout - around 100g complex carbs and 50g protein
45 mins pre workout - 50g complex/50g simple carbs and 50g protein
walking in the gym - 75g simple sugars (large gatorate/soda/non-diet energy drink/glucose tabs/etc)
intra workout - 100-200g simple sugars (a common favorite is a large gatorade with additional dextrose powder added), BCAA's, creatine
post workout - 100-200g simple sugars, 100g protein
30 mins later - 100-200g complex and simple carbs, 100g protein
2 hours later - 100g complex carbs, 50g protein

[BFG]

Note the sheer amount of food this requires to achieve top pro level size. As I mentioned in a previous thread, this is why most pros smoke marijuana around the clock to stimulate some level of appetite.

[njflex]

In regards to insulin - humalog and humulin-r have different release time-frames so they peak at different points. The person in question (or anyone using this protocol) would not need ~500 grams of carbs during their workout. I do not have this specific bodybuilder's intra and post workout protocol but I can't imagine it would be any different than what most of the pros (and top amateurs) are doing.

I already posted the in depth protocol in a previous thread but heres what I assume it would look like (summarized):

2 hours pre workout - around 100g complex carbs and 50g protein
45 mins pre workout - 50g complex/50g simple carbs and 50g protein
walking in the gym - 75g simple sugars (large gatorate/soda/non-diet energy drink/glucose tabs/etc)
intra workout - 100-200g simple sugars (a common favorite is a large gatorade with additional dextrose powder added), BCAA's, creatine
post workout - 100-200g simple sugars, 100g protein
30 mins later - 100-200g complex and simple carbs, 100g protein
2 hours later - 100g complex carbs, 50g protein

thats something else,,lotta fuel there to have that kind of look/build.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

In regards to insulin - humalog and humulin-r have different release time-frames so they peak at different points. The person in question (or anyone using this protocol) would not need ~500 grams of carbs during their workout. I do not have this specific bodybuilder's intra and post workout protocol but I can't imagine it would be any different than what most of the pros (and top amateurs) are doing.

I already posted the in depth protocol in a previous thread but heres what I assume it would look like (summarized):

2 hours pre workout - around 100g complex carbs and 50g protein
45 mins pre workout - 50g complex/50g simple carbs and 50g protein
walking in the gym - 75g simple sugars (large gatorate/soda/non-diet energy drink/glucose tabs/etc)
intra workout - 100-200g simple sugars (a common favorite is a large gatorade with additional dextrose powder added), BCAA's, creatine
post workout - 100-200g simple sugars, 100g protein
30 mins later - 100-200g complex and simple carbs, 100g protein
2 hours later - 100g complex carbs, 50g protein

this explains why they look like fat bloated shit in the offseason. That's an astronomical amount of carbs. If I eat more than 250g of carbs per day every day, I look like shit

[njflex]

this explains why they look like fat bloated shit in the offseason. That's an astronomical amount of carbs. If I eat more than 250g of carbs per day every day, I look like shit

its a tradeoff ,,,u like to be lean,it seems by your pics and thats ok too ,,if u have no plans to compete there is no offseason ,,stay lean get a little smooth but water look then warm weather drop down get lean and bf stable.

[oliveiraugo]

A love this guys posts.

He really knows what hes talking about.

Well, its pretty useless since mostly of us canīt afford it. But is a very welcome info.

BFG, you should make an Amateur Guide, (like GH15s Bodybuilding for the Poor lol.) With no GH and Insulin. To win locals shows.

[aesthetics]

this explains why they look like fat bloated shit in the offseason. That's an astronomical amount of carbs. If I eat more than 250g of carbs per day every day, I look like shit

you don't need that many carbs for that much slin preworkout - even if someone were to run that much. but yeah, pros say in interviews they eat over 10k calories a day in the offseason, probably eating 1.5k grams of carbs a day.

[makaveli25]

I guess bodybuilding really is a full time job if these protocols are true. That would be a pain in the ass lifestyle.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

its a tradeoff ,,,u like to be lean,it seems by your pics and thats ok too ,,if u have no plans to compete there is no offseason ,,stay lean get a little smooth but water look then warm weather drop down get lean and bf stable.

I do like to be lean but that doesn't mean I am always lean. Whenever I pack on muscle, I get bloated/gain fat and I HATE the way my face and stomach looks. Luckily I'm at the point where I feel I have enough muscle to just be lean year round from now on. I just never posted pics when I wasn't in condition because I was too embarrassed. I had off seasons just like anyone and as recently as 3 months ago...just not anymore

you don't need that many carbs for that much slin preworkout - even if someone were to run that much. but yeah, pros say in interviews they eat over 10k calories a day in the offseason, probably eating 1.5k grams of carbs a day.

yea i know but i was just reading the disagram in the post I quoted and that's a fuckload of carbs

[BOW]

viagra is isolated to the muscles of the penis.

no it is not. the pde5 enzyme is located in other smooth and skeletal muscles throughout the body.

[wes]

I would never want to do all that just to look like bloated whale shit.

Sorry,I`ll remain an old twink, and more than likely live a lot longer, and still be training until they pry a fucking barbell from my cold dead hands long after whaleshit has stopped due to heart problems or some other shit.

[aesthetics]

I do like to be lean but that doesn't mean I am always lean. Whenever I pack on muscle, I get bloated/gain fat and I HATE the way my face and stomach looks. Luckily I'm at the point where I feel I have enough muscle to just be lean year round from now on. I just never posted pics when I wasn't in condition because I was too embarrassed. I had off seasons just like anyone and as recently as 3 months ago...just not anymore

yea i know but i was just reading the disagram in the post I quoted and that's a fuckload of carbs

if you drop your bodyfat and get into the lower single digits, like 7% or below, water weight doesn't really make you look bad anymore because you have hardly any sub-q fat deposits for the water weight to expand. still washes out your lines and ruins the hardness of muscles, but, it won't make you "ugly" anymore like when you're higher bodyfat and hold water. (also it's the rips dude, they make everyone bloated looking like a puffed up porcupine-fish)

did you see that video though? at the end he talks about how $200 worth of food is his weekly allotment, and that he goes through 30lbs. of fish a week