people who commit suicide... are they really cowards....

[Loc]

or are they ballsy?

think about it, could you make up your mind right now to kill yourself and follow through not knowing whats going to happen on "the otherside?" most people think suiciders are pussies for not being able to deal with thier issues. i beg to differ and think that is an extremely ballsy move, one i can never make no matter how hard life gets.

thoughts?.....

[Ursus]

I think that if you do this kinda thing you have severe mental issues and should be pitied rather than anything else.

God knows what gets people to this stage in their life but thankfully no-one I know or care about has ever done this.

[Loc]

saw a documentary about the golden gate bridge infamous for so many go there to jump off and kill themselves which made me wonder how they do it. but yeah most have mental issues i suppose.

[PJim]

Very, very, very complicated topic. Not one that you can simply generalise AT ALL.

[240 is Back]

i coudlnt do it.

but...

if i was riddled with cancer, knew i'd be dead in a month... was in 24/7 pain and nausea... and could just lie on a beach and take a handful of painkillers and check out with the sunset, well then it might make sense.

IMO, a lot of people on their deathbed probably up the dose to check out and end the pain.  My guess is that death is pretty damn painless.  I took a spill in my yard the other day - went head over heels when changing an outside light bulb... bees flew out, the chair i was standing on fell, and i was out for a minute in the yard.  If i had died, I woudlnt' have felt a thing.  Just changing light one minute, life knocked out of me the next.  it's fast.  probably just like going to sleep.

[Borracho]

I think if you leave kids/wife/family behind than you would be a coward cause its your responsibility to take care of them. If you're single with no one depending on you than I wouldn't consider them cowards nor brave. No one chooses to be born but taking your own life for some reason remains taboo. I say fuck it do what you want.

[The Ugly]

it's fast.  probably just like going to sleep.

We'd like to think so anyway. I'm guessing for most there's probably more suffering involved.

[makaveli25]

I don't really think so. A buddy of mine killed himself. It devastated the whole town. He had more balls than anyone I ever met. Little guy but the best defense end I've ever seen especially for his size. State champ wrestler to. He tied himself to a tree set himself on fire  He was a nut got hooked on pills and his mother passed from brain cancer. He couldn't take it anymore.

[#1 Klaus fan]

I think that if you do this kinda thing you have severe mental issues and should be pitied rather than anything else.

God knows what gets people to this stage in their life but thankfully no-one I know or care about has ever done this.

By the way, I don't get it why the word pity raises so strong emotions in some people. Just a hint to that direction and you get people who will say "I don't need your pity man!". How is pity different from sympathy anyway?

[The Ugly]

saw a documentary about the golden gate bridge infamous for so many go there to jump off and kill themselves which made me wonder how they do it.

I could never go that way. I'll take the exit bag.

[Irongrip400]

saw a documentary about the golden gate bridge infamous for so many go there to jump off and kill themselves which made me wonder how they do it. but yeah most have mental issues i suppose.

Dude, that documentary was awesome. That one dude with long hair, when he jumps, he just hopped on the edge and stood up and fell. He looked like a doll. Most of the other people flailed around, he took it like a pro. Then that one dude who survived, you could tell he is still a mess. Anyways, suiciders are pussies.

[The Ugly]

Anyways, suiciders are pussies.

Hardly.

[Ursus]

By the way, I don't get it why the word pity raises so strong emotions in some people. Just a hint to that direction and you get people who will say "I don't need your pity man!". How is pity different from sympathy anyway?

Exactly!

Pity is not patronising or arrogant.

When I say the word I mean empathy or sympathy.

[Marlo Stanfield]

or are they ballsy?

think about it, could you make up your mind right now to kill yourself and follow through not knowing whats going to happen on "the otherside?" most people think suiciders are pussies for not being able to deal with thier issues. i beg to differ and think that is an extremely ballsy move, one i can never make no matter how hard life gets.

thoughts?.....

its a bit of both... noone commits suicide because they are happy. people commit suicide because they gave up on life ( for whatever reason), nd cant handle it like a man... but i never understood they saying " he took the easy way out"... its not easy. its takes gutys to stare a gun down and pulling the trigger. or going on a roof and jumping off.

i sometimes think about death ( after having some really close encounters, which i wont get to today, maybe sometime down the road i'll vent). The part that i cant wrap my head around is the moment of death. what happens? is it like you fall asleep? or is it painful? i cant understand when people say he died peacefully, how can that be? if your heart stops, isnt that painful? isnt it like a heart attack? you pretty much die because blood and oxygen stop circulating...or when people die in their sleep, what happens at that momemnt? do you know its happening? is it like pitch black and you and boom thats it?  no i have not been drinking lol

[The Ugly]

The part that i cant wrap my head around is the moment of death. what happens? is it like you fall asleep? or is it painful? i cant understand when people say he died peacefully, how can that be? if your heart stops, isnt that painful? isnt it like a heart attack? you pretty much die because blood and oxygen stop circulating...or when people die in their sleep, what happens at that momemnt? do you know its happening? is it like pitch black and you and boom thats it?  no i have not been drinking lol

It's gotta be miserable, no matter how it happens.

[howardroark]

Or maybe just stupid.

I know what's going to happen "on the other side:" jack shit. Nothing. Non-existence.

[Stark]

people without problems don't kill them self - hope this helps

[claymore]

or are they ballsy?

think about it, could you make up your mind right now to kill yourself and follow through not knowing whats going to happen on "the otherside?" most people think suiciders are pussies for not being able to deal with thier issues. i beg to differ and think that is an extremely ballsy move, one i can never make no matter how hard life gets.

thoughts?.....

Cowards

[YngiweRhoads]

https://www.google.ca/search?q=suicide+victims+brains&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[tbombz]

they could be one of many different things. extremely faithful. extremely hopeful. extremely tormented. extremely depressed. etc.

it would be a rare case where the word "coward" applies though, i think.

in fact im finding it very difficult to think up a possible possibilty where it would.

[indie-lad]

its a bit of both... noone commits suicide because they are happy. people commit suicide because they gave up on life ( for whatever reason), nd cant handle it like a man... but i never understood they saying " he took the easy way out"... its not easy. its takes gutys to stare a gun down and pulling the trigger. or going on a roof and jumping off.

i sometimes think about death ( after having some really close encounters, which i wont get to today, maybe sometime down the road i'll vent). The part that i cant wrap my head around is the moment of death. what happens? is it like you fall asleep? or is it painful? i cant understand when people say he died peacefully, how can that be? if your heart stops, isnt that painful? isnt it like a heart attack? you pretty much die because blood and oxygen stop circulating...or when people die in their sleep, what happens at that momemnt? do you know its happening? is it like pitch black and you and boom thats it?  no i have not been drinking lol

I wonder the same thing...

[tbombz]

its a bit of both... noone commits suicide because they are happy. people commit suicide because they gave up on life ( for whatever reason), nd cant handle it like a man... but i never understood they saying " he took the easy way out"... its not easy. its takes gutys to stare a gun down and pulling the trigger. or going on a roof and jumping off.

i sometimes think about death ( after having some really close encounters, which i wont get to today, maybe sometime down the road i'll vent). The part that i cant wrap my head around is the moment of death. what happens? is it like you fall asleep? or is it painful? i cant understand when people say he died peacefully, how can that be? if your heart stops, isnt that painful? isnt it like a heart attack? you pretty much die because blood and oxygen stop circulating...or when people die in their sleep, what happens at that momemnt? do you know its happening? is it like pitch black and you and boom thats it?  no i have not been drinking lol

is it even possible to die ? 

[King Shizzo]

Or maybe just stupid.

I know what's going to happen "on the other side:" jack shit. Nothing. Non-existence.

Thats probably why they do it.  You don't think devout christians or other religious people commit suicide do you?  It mostly people who don't believe, and just want to end the pain/problems.

[The Ugly]

It mostly people who don't believe, and just want to end the pain/problems.

Agreed. End it.

[Wiggs]

They aren't cowards, unless you've been in their shoes, shut your fucking face.