40% of Waiters discriminate due to low tips.

[Primemuscle]

Waiter Racism Survey Shows 40 Percent Of Waiters Discriminate Against Black Customers
Posted: 04/24/2012 11:32  


Many waiters give inferior service to African-American customers, according to a new survey.

The study, published in the Journal of Black Studies, found that 40 percent of waiters admit they discriminate against black customers because of a perception they don't tip as much as white patrons, according to the Daily Mail.

"Many people believe that race is no longer a significant issue in the United States,’ Sarah Rusche, co-author of a paper describing the study, told the Mail. "But the fact that a third of servers admit to varying their quality of service based on customers' race, often giving African-Americans inferior service, shows that race continues to be an issue in our society."

The survey is based on interviews with 200 waiters at various large chain restaurants in North Carolina and, as the Examiner notes, 87 percent of those surveyed were white.

The survey found that blacks were typically described as “picky,” “demanding,” and “rude,” the Examiner reported.

According to the article's authors, the research shows a "continuing significance of race in contemporary society." The authors also encouraged "further research on this relatively neglected area of inquiry."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/waiter-racism-40-percent-waiters-discriminate-against-black-customers_n_1448861.html

Does anyone know if, in fact, African Americans are generally poor tippers? It would seem to me some waitstaff might discriminate against anyone who was a poor tipper, such as young folks often are. Unfortunately, it is just human nature for us to form opinions based on experience which causes us to generalize. So if a lot of folks in a particular group tip poorly, most all folks fitting that description might be discriminated against.

My wife and I tip well, especially when the service is good. More often than not, we get really great service when we eat out. We are senior citizens. I don't know if senior citizens have a good or bad reputation when it comes to tipping. What I do know is that our showing appreciation for good service has resulted in us almost always getting it everywhere we go.

In contrast, when the service is very poor, we do not hesitate to complain about it. However, this seldom happens and we eat out frequently.

[calfzilla]

Does anyone know if, in fact, African Americans are generally poor tippers? It would seem to me some waitstaff might discriminate against anyone who was a poor tipper, such as young folks often are. Unfortunately, it is just human nature for us to form opinions based on experience which causes us to generalize. So if a lot of folks in a particular group tip poorly, most all folks fitting that description might be discriminated against.

My wife and I tip well, especially when the service is good. More often than not, we get really great service when we eat out. We are senior citizens. I don't know if senior citizens have a good or bad reputation when it comes to tipping. What I do know is that our showing appreciation for good service has resulted in us almost always getting it everywhere we go.

In contrast, when the service is very poor, we do not hesitate to complain about it. However, this seldom happens and we eat out frequently.

What are some of your favorite local restaurants?

[Twaddle]

Does anyone know if, in fact, African Americans are generally poor tippers? It would seem to me some waitstaff might discriminate against anyone who was a poor tipper, such as young folks often are. Unfortunately, it is just human nature for us to form opinions based on experience which causes us to generalize. So if a lot of folks in a particular group tip poorly, most all folks fitting that description might be discriminated against.

My wife and I tip well, especially when the service is good. More often than not, we get really great service when we eat out. We are senior citizens. I don't know if senior citizens have a good or bad reputation when it comes to tipping. What I do know is that our showing appreciation for good service has resulted in us almost always getting it everywhere we go.

In contrast, when the service is very poor, we do not hesitate to complain about it. However, this seldom happens and we eat out frequently.

As I said earlier, I used to wait tables with a black waiter.  He said he didn't tip when he went out.  In his words, it was: "Mo money for me.  Mo drink money, and mo party money."  

[bradistani]

yes, the only restaurants where its not 'required' to tip are those that have no servers

right..

servers and waiters not the same thing ?

[El Diablo Blanco]

Just change the title that 40% of people in general discriminate.  Probably more.

[hardgainerj]

right..

servers and waiters not the same thing ?

yes

[Option D]

Because they get paid less than 5 dollars an hour before tipping that's why.

In california waiters get california min wage.. which is 8 something.. plus tips.. i know in ga they get somethin like 3 bucks.. that has to suck

[hardgainerj]

Does anyone know if, in fact, African Americans are generally poor tippers? It would seem to me some waitstaff might discriminate against anyone who was a poor tipper, such as young folks often are. Unfortunately, it is just human nature for us to form opinions based on experience which causes us to generalize. So if a lot of folks in a particular group tip poorly, most all folks fitting that description might be discriminated against.

My wife and I tip well, especially when the service is good. More often than not, we get really great service when we eat out. We are senior citizens. I don't know if senior citizens have a good or bad reputation when it comes to tipping. What I do know is that our showing appreciation for good service has resulted in us almost always getting it everywhere we go.

In contrast, when the service is very poor, we do not hesitate to complain about it. However, this seldom happens and we eat out frequently.

from my experience white trash, mexicans, blacks, africans, east asians, indians, middle easterners happen to be bad tippers

oh i forgot, gypsies might be the worse not only do they not tip they also try to get free food

[hardgainerj]

east asians, indians, middle easterners

on the same token these ethnic restaurant tend to provide bad service

[hardgainerj]

http://www.lousytippers.com/database1_interface/Results/results_page.asp

[Natural Man]

Were your parents bigots?

both were socialist hippies. You fail.

[Primemuscle]

What are some of your favorite local restaurants?

My wife and I eat out for breakfast mostly. We frequent several restaurants which are close to where we live in West Linn, OR.

Yesterday, we went to Shari's in Willamette. Shari's is a chain. There prices are moderate. My wife really enjoys the strawberry crepes. That is what she had for breakfast yesterday. I enjoy their potato pancakes now that they changed the recipe to make them more basic.

Sunday morning, we took my sister who had been house sitting for us for several days to Biscuit's for brunch. Biscuits is about two miles from our house. I had biscuits and gravy with basted eggs and bacon. My sister ordered a Greek omelet. Toby, our waitperson is moving back to her home town in a week. We are going have breakfast at Biscuits on her last day so we can take her a card and wish her well for the future. She is the best waitress we have ever enjoyed knowing. She will be sorely missed by many.

Easter Sunday, we made reservations at 503 a local eatery. This is a fairly high end restaurant. However, it is definitely a neighborhood restaurant as it is relatively small. Everything they make is delicious. We had a several course breakfast meal which we languished over for almost two hours. Their Bloody Mary's are great!

The list of restaurants in our area is long. They range in price, starting with fast food restaurants which are so inexpensive that they are cheaper than cooking at home. The other night, I drove down to Taco Del Mar for taco salads for dinner. Two taco salads to go came to less than $12. You cannot fix them at home for that price. Then there are some higher end local establishments like Bugatti's Italian restaurant where a dinner for two can run about $150.

Frankly, we are a bit spoiled here in West Linn. There are so many choices of places to eat meals out. And if we want to drive a little further, Portland has many, many excellent restaurants, such as: Blue Hour, The Ringside, Jake's and many, many others.

The funny thing about us eating out so often is that both my wife and I enjoy cooking. She is the better cook, although I tend to experiment more and will make more elaborate meals. One of my signature dishes is vichyssoise.

[Soul Crusher]

I think its a reverse racism and payback thing.  They love the idea of bing in charge and bein served for once.   

I see when i am in a restuarant like TGIF or Applebees or Charlie Browns and some fat disgusting greasy thug is just sitting there flowing out of the chair bossing the wait staff around like he owns the place. 

"Yo - get me some more ketchup."

"Yo - there aint enough cheese on this bitch"

"Yo - when you come back i wants another beer (half already done) - dis one be cold yo."

"Yo - you take this coupon in here?"

"Yo - tell the chef this steak aint cooked right  . . . and also bring me some extra bread too"




etc etc.       

[Primemuscle]

I think its a reverse racism and payback thing.  They love the idea of bing in charge and bein served for once.   

I see when i am in a restuarant like TGIF or Applebees or Charlie Browns and some fat disgusting greasy thug is just sitting there flowing out of the chair bossing the wait staff around like he owns the place. 

"Yo - get me some more ketchup."

"Yo - there aint enough cheese on this bitch"

"Yo - when you come back i wants another beer (half already done) - dis one be cold yo."

"Yo - you take this coupon in here?"

"Yo - tell the chef this steak aint cooked right  . . . and also bring me some extra bread too"




etc etc.       

Are you being serious???

In my entire life, I have never experienced such behavior in a restaurant. Proprietors have the right to refuse service. I would imagine that they'd exercise that right with customers as rude as the one you describe. No waitstaff should have to put up with people talking to them like that.

Some of the waiters in restaurants here in the Portland area are Latino or African American. Do you think this would make a difference in how someone who is also a minority would treat the waitstaff?

Oh, and don't tell me this mainly happens in New York City because I've spent some time in New York and I still have not ever witnessed anyone of any race speaking thusly to their server.

[randy841]

Maybe they should get a little sign for the table saying "I tip 15% - its ok to serve me" and they would get better service?  

Maybe that should be rephrased like this for better service

I'm black, proud, & a little sentimental at times, but "I tip 15% - its ok to serve me".

[Soul Crusher]

Not Manhattan since the blacks have been pushed out.

The real shit goes down in Brooklyn, Bronx, Yonkers, Mt Vernon, etc.


  

    

[randy841]

Everything in that article is true except for this line: "The study, published in the Journal of Black Studies, found that 40 percent of waiters admit they discriminate against black customers because of a perception they don't tip as much as white patrons, according to the Daily Mail."

It's not a perception, it's a fact.  Blacks are the worst tippers out of all races.  I waited and bartended for about 5 years, and blacks were by far the worst tippers.  I would give them the best service possible, so there would be no excuse for a shitty tip, and they would still tip shitty.  There was a black guy that waited tables with me, and I told him he needed to talk to his people and get them to start fucking tipping.  He said, "Shit, I don't tip either when I go out to eat!"  I said, "What the fuck do you mean, you wait tables and you don't tip other waiters?"  He said, "Yep, that's just mo party money, and mo drink money for me."  His name was Rob, and he was a sorry mother fucker.

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter how stellar your service is towards blacks, 95% of them are terrible tippers.

I like the way you put that - that 'he needs to talk too his people'

ROFL...  

P.S.  Report this post to Jesse Jackson so he can have a talk with this gentleman.  

[Earl1972]

i worked as a partime bartender for weddings and banquets for a few years

blacks in general weren't good tippers and they were easily the biggest complainers

they weren't the worst though, anybody over 65 and anybody with a foreign accent was worse than blacks

women in general also aren't good tippers, they could seem like the kindest and sweetest girl around and you were still lucky to get a dollar from them, they ordered drinks that take effort to make (unlike guys) and tell you how great it tastes and still often times no tip

guys are much more generous with money than women

E

[calfzilla]

My wife and I eat out for breakfast mostly. We frequent several restaurants which are close to where we live in West Linn, OR.

Yesterday, we went to Shari's in Willamette. Shari's is a chain. There prices are moderate. My wife really enjoys the strawberry crepes. That is what she had for breakfast yesterday. I enjoy their potato pancakes now that they changed the recipe to make them more basic.

Sunday morning, we took my sister who had been house sitting for us for several days to Biscuit's for brunch. Biscuits is about two miles from our house. I had biscuits and gravy with basted eggs and bacon. My sister ordered a Greek omelet. Toby, our waitperson is moving back to her home town in a week. We are going have breakfast at Biscuits on her last day so we can take her a card and wish her well for the future. She is the best waitress we have ever enjoyed knowing. She will be sorely missed by many.

Easter Sunday, we made reservations at 503 a local eatery. This is a fairly high end restaurant. However, it is definitely a neighborhood restaurant as it is relatively small. Everything they make is delicious. We had a several course breakfast meal which we languished over for almost two hours. Their Bloody Mary's are great!

The list of restaurants in our area is long. They range in price, starting with fast food restaurants which are so inexpensive that they are cheaper than cooking at home. The other night, I drove down to Taco Del Mar for taco salads for dinner. Two taco salads to go came to less than $12. You cannot fix them at home for that price. Then there are some higher end local establishments like Bugatti's Italian restaurant where a dinner for two can run about $150.

Frankly, we are a bit spoiled here in West Linn. There are so many choices of places to eat meals out. And if we want to drive a little further, Portland has many, many excellent restaurants, such as: Blue Hour, The Ringside, Jake's and many, many others.

The funny thing about us eating out so often is that both my wife and I enjoy cooking. She is the better cook, although I tend to experiment more and will make more elaborate meals. One of my signature dishes is vichyssoise.

Nice, I hear a lot of good things about Biscuits just haven't tried them yet. I don't go to West Linn much but I'm pretty close in Gresham. I have taken a few friends to Jakes, probably the most expensive meal I ever bought. And Sharis wouldn't say I love them but since it's 24hrs I tend to go there a lot. Speaking of 24 hr you need to try the Original Pancake house it's roughly on SE 12th and Powell. But speaking of tips I tip ok but make it a point to really take care of waite staff that I know from being a regular. Also my number 1 determination of the tip will be if my glass is kept full. I don't care if they are rude or if the food is shitty as long as I always have something to drink.

[Primemuscle]

i worked as a partime bartender for weddings and banquets for a few years

blacks in general weren't good tippers and they were easily the biggest complainers

they weren't the worst though, anybody over 65 and anybody with a foreign accent was worse than blacks

women in general also aren't good tippers, they could seem like the kindest and sweetest girl around and you were still lucky to get a dollar from them, they ordered drinks that take effort to make (unlike guys) and tell you how great it tastes and still often times no tip

guys are much more generous with money than women

E

No doubt you are correct about this, based on your personal experience. However, my wife and I both tip reasonably well at 20% or better and we are both over 65. I never tip a bartender less than a buck per drink and often more. I usually put a $1 in the tip jar at Starbucks when I get a drink. Neither of us is African American nor do we have foreign accents unless we are in traveling in a foreign (non-English speaking) country. Speaking of which, it is a good idea to study the tip culture in foreign countries before traveling there. For example, according to my German daughter-in-law, it is poor form to tip generously in Germany. Perhaps this is because the waitstaff are better paid there.

[garebear]

both were socialist hippies. You fail.

Questions can fail?

How did you become a bigot?

[basil]

Truth be told blacks don't tip

I heard that.  I don't know from experience because, "it stays pretty white, pretty late up here".

[Ronnie Rep]

Cause they are getting paid $2.13 an hour, dumbass.

They rely on tips to make a living, this shit ain't rocket science

That!

[TRIX]

well increase there pay and up the price of food to cover the costs

lol @ tipping.. what a joke.

[peruke]

If you are a low tipper, you should never eat in the same place twice.      Many people don't tip, or under tip.   Most places put tip on check for parties of 6, or more...