Author Topic: "As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16 (Read 7516 times)

Moen · « **Reply #25 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:29:25 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:20:25 PM

causality my friend.. look it up.. consider the implications

Works both ways just fine. People who believe are not able to be objective, people who are objective are not able to believe.

tbombz · « **Reply #26 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:29:25 PM

Works both ways just fine. People who believe are not able to be objective, people who are objective are not able to believe.

you didnt understand me... causality in terms of what causes things to happen.. including the universe.. your statement about objectivity and belief might be true but it depends on how you define "believe"

Moen · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:31:49 PM »

Believe in something that doesn't exist, whatever that may be.

Examples include but are not limited to: God, Muhammed, ghosts, zombies.

tbombz · « **Reply #28 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:32:18 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:30:54 PM

you didnt understand me... causality in terms of what causes things to happen.. including the universe.. your statement about objectivity and belief might be true but it depends on how you define "believe"

Heywood · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:34:41 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:16:17 PM

obama didnt lie about libya. if you want your opinion on political issues to be taken seriously you need to be objective and not spew bullshit talking points that misrepresent the opposition and are outright false.

uh, yeah. Libya was all legit.....

sorry.......

Moen · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:36:13 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on October 18, 2012, 01:32:18 PM

"causality in terms of"? Causality is causality!

tbombz · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:38:23 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:31:49 PM

Believe in something that doesn't exist, whatever that may be.

Examples include but are not limited to: God, Muhammed, ghosts, zombies.

you dont know what you dont know.

Quote from: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 01:34:41 PM

uh, yeah. Libya was all legit.....

sorry.......

day one = tragic event, happened during protests over video, unsure about details.

day two= tragic event, unsure of details, no justification for it, act of terror

next week or so = unsure of details, can not say yet whether it was planned ahead of time, happened at same time as protests over video so thats a possibility it was related to those

two weeks= finally the intelligence community comes to conclusion, pre meditated, act of terror.

report comes out that embassy wanted extra security.. was denied by STATE DEPARTMENT.. not the president..

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:39:00 PM »

Irongrip400 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:40:15 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on October 18, 2012, 12:43:40 PM

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16. "The government doesn't create jobs," - Mitt Romney, October 16.

The government doesn't, the private sector does. Civil servants are worthless. Most government jobs should be privatized, it would force competition.

tbombz · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:40:27 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:36:13 PM

"causality in terms of"? Causality is causality!

is it real? if so, what caused the universe?

Moen · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:41:09 PM »

The Big Bang.

tbombz · « **Reply #36 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:42:17 PM »

thats not an answer! big bang happened INSIDE the universe. it was a part of the universe. what caused the big bang to happen?

Moen · « **Reply #37 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:48:28 PM »

Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.

tbombz · « **Reply #38 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:51:44 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:48:28 PM

Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.

its not a scientific issue, its a philosophical one. sccience cant speak on it. no matter what scientists prove to be true, one can always ask "well what causes that to be true?" ... so the big bang happened.. what caused it to happen? some kind of energy ? ok, well what caused that energy to behave in that way ? oh, so thats what caused it.. well what caused that ? ad infinitum

Shockwave · « **Reply #39 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:52:30 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:48:28 PM

Energy? I'm not a cosmologist, I can only follow what they have to say on these matters.

I think his point is that we don't know yet.

tbombz · « **Reply #40 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:58:19 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 01:52:30 PM

I think his point is that we don't know yet.

can never know.. A1! why? B2! why? C3! why? D4! why? ...ad infinitum

tbombz · « **Reply #41 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:59:03 PM »

Quote from: Heywood on October 18, 2012, 01:57:40 PM

hey look, sodomize & murder our ambassador....no problemo', it's all good......

ur right.. arresting the people involved isnt enough... we ought to nuke libya

Moen · « **Reply #42 on:** October 18, 2012, 01:59:56 PM »

We'll know one day and the answer won't be God

Shockwave · « **Reply #43 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:02:34 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:59:56 PM

We'll know one day and the answer won't be God

I agree with Taylor... I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer. There will always be a "what caused/created this?"

tbombz · « **Reply #44 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:03:48 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 01:59:56 PM

We'll know one day and the answer won't be God

you dont get it. we can never know what caused the universe to exist. no matter what we find out, we always have more questions. if you find out X, ill ask: where did X come from? why does X happen? what causes X to be X? what came before X?

tbombz · « **Reply #45 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:04:28 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:02:34 PM

I agree with Taylor... I don't think we'll ever have a definitive answer. There will always be a "what caused/created this?"

Moen · « **Reply #46 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:05:24 PM »

You can ask questions all you want, if we come to the definite truth, that is it.

I studied philosophy, philosophy has it's place when there is no science to go by. Once the science is there, philosophy (should) ends.

Shockwave · « **Reply #47 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:07:28 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 02:05:24 PM

You can ask questions all you want, if we come to the definite truth, that is it.

I studied philosophy, philosophy has it's place when there is no science to go by. Once the science is there, philosophy (should) ends.

Of course, but there will never be a definitive answer. Will always will be that next question.

Moen · « **Reply #48 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Shockwave on October 18, 2012, 02:07:28 PM

Of course, but there will never be a definitive answer. Will always will be that next question.

There will be. Unfortunately, we won't be around anymore

Shockwave · « **Reply #49 on:** October 18, 2012, 02:10:13 PM »

Quote from: Moen on October 18, 2012, 02:08:21 PM

There will be. Unfortunately, we won't be around anymore

I imagine humanity will be wiped out by some natural disaster long before we ever figure it out.