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Serious Question....
« on: August 07, 2013, 09:26:36 AM »
Would it be better to go sub 10%BF and train up from there on lower cals... or stay at 12% and train heavy on more cals? Keep in mind I'm coming off injury and am still healing.

Natty no gear....yet! (prob. use 80% Gals method once I get on test)

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 09:30:26 AM »
I mean the difference between 10% and 12% is not COLOSSAL!!!


How much Sub 10% are you talking about?

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 09:31:02 AM »
Another permabulker afraid he will have to cut on the ding-dongs

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 09:32:18 AM »
12% is too fat natty or not.

Damn dude we have a strict definition of 'fat' on this board  - I look soooooooo in shape when I'm 12%  :D

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 09:33:25 AM »
I mean the difference between 10% and 12% is not COLOSSAL!!!


How much Sub 10% are you talking about?

I can be at 8% in 6 weeks no prob. puts me at 185 or so

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 09:34:34 AM »
Another permabulker afraid he will have to cut on the ding-dongs

Calling me a permabulker.....BWAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHHHA HHAH

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 09:35:49 AM »
Calling me a permabulker.....BWAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHHAHAHHHA HHAH
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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2013, 09:37:49 AM »

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2013, 09:38:27 AM »
I can be at 8% in 6 weeks no prob. puts me at 185 or so

Really depends what your goals are.... you know....

I mean honestly this discussion is kinda splitting hairs because the bf% levels are so close, its very hard for anyone to distinguish between 10% and 8% lol...  or 12% and 10%......  


I'd be happy staying at 12% and working from there... some may not feel so comfortable with that!  All depends on you really

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 09:40:53 AM »
Really depends what your goals are.... you know....

I mean honestly this discussion is kinda splitting hairs because the bf% levels are so close, its very hard for anyone to distinguish between 10% and 8% lol...  or 12% and 10%......  


I'd be happy staying at 12% and working from there... some may not feel so comfortable with that!  All depends on you really

Goal is simple regain 20lbs of muscle I lost since late last years MVA....back then I was about 8-10% on 2000 cals a day....

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2013, 09:44:46 AM »

This may not be a popular opinion - but I think I look fine now..... if I were you I'd just try to focus on putting on lean muscle, don't stress too much about losing weight or what have you.... forget the numbers

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2013, 09:50:01 AM »
Cut and then bulk once you've peaked. Any time I cut hard I just up the calories and I bounce back up and fill out without bloating.

12% body fat is FAT, my friend. Cut and look good, don't be in the fat zone where you can't take off your shirt.

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2013, 09:50:20 AM »
I'm not as worried about looks as much as putting on muscle back on my frame (I can cut to sub 10 at will)....my dress shirts shoulders hang an inch or more lower now :'(

The feedback I'm looking for....best way to put on lean muscle quickest. I though muscle mass might return faster...BUT it has not 20 POUNDS GONE!  :-X


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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2013, 09:51:34 AM »
its hard to cut and put on size at the same time especially naturally

i would cut first then clean bulk
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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2013, 09:54:05 AM »
8% area is the perfect area to be in. not to fat so you still look great with shirt off. but not so lean that you lose strength or go flat.

big ache, 12% is fat. sorry. maybe not compared to the general public but I don't compare myself to the general public. my stomach looks like shit at 12%

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2013, 09:55:02 AM »
comeon ach youre just been lazy dieter now for a while.

with sayin 10% looks kinda like 8, and 10 is close to 12, why not 14%? ;D

6 and 8 look nothing alike.12 and up dont even matter anymore, as there wont be any cuts really anyway.

its ok ,naty will have somewhat abs and lines at 10-12, but for on gear, the lower the better.

LOL yes I'm a lazy dieter.....


Come one thats horseshit if you think you can EASILY distinguish the difference between 2% bodyfat!!  Give me a break!

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2013, 09:55:58 AM »
LOL yes I'm a lazy dieter.....


Come one thats horseshit if you think you can EASILY distinguish the difference between 2% bodyfat!!  Give me a break!
when you are very lean, yes you can distinguish it very easily. you should know this, pretty sure you have been fucken shredded yourself.

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2013, 09:57:14 AM »
8% area is the perfect area to be in. not to fat so you still look great with shirt off. but not so lean that you lose strength or go flat.

big ache, 12% is fat. sorry. maybe not compared to the general public but I don't compare myself to the general public. my stomach looks like shit at 12%

I think 12% is IDEAL everyday walking around bf% for a non competitive bodybuilder or an off-season bodybuilder.....

But you also have to remember bf% levels look different on everyone, people just carry their fat differently!


If 8% is what makes you happy - then more power to you brother!

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2013, 09:57:22 AM »
I didn't cut to sub 10 earlier with the injury I wanted body to heal and wanted additional energy FAT available....but I'm not seeing the growth I was hoping for....and granted its been only months since I can lift anything decent, yet still!

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2013, 09:58:39 AM »
when you are very lean, yes you can distinguish it very easily. you should know this, pretty sure you have been fucken shredded yourself.

Yes maybe if we are talking 5% or 3%



But 10% IS NOT THAT big of a difference from 12% - I'm not saying its not different, I'm just saying more people are bound to have trouble distinguishing the two!

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2013, 10:00:00 AM »
I have a funny method to tell bodyfat....at 12 I'm loose in 34's and need belt.... at 10 in 32's with a bit of muffin top (daughters comment) at 9 good fit....8 32's are loose.

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2013, 10:02:01 AM »
forget about weight, weight means nothing.



Its a big phyche out to be 6' and see 180 on scale....havent seen that since HS now looking at 195 and getting chills.

EDIT: I am 195 and don't want to see 180! Kapeesh

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2013, 10:02:13 AM »
yah, man, if im at 10%, i have kinda small frame, i look like never lifted a weight before.

even 5-10lbs of fat and water on where i am now, would make me look 20times less impressive.

agreed 12% is fat as hell.for christ sake.

man ofc can easy distinguish on myself, you been shredded before, and then after rebounding, when say 2% fatter, im sure you could tell the difference :D

over 12%, sure, i cant tell anymore, as all lines are gone.
that bc youre a nattie, muscle dont came fast, even on gear.
and they dont come any faster when fatter.

i totaly agree with bouncer no more than 8%, esp on gear, he knows full well why that is bc hes been there.
hell, when at 8% and on test, overeating will make you feel very sorry ;D

LOL When I rebound it ain't no 2%..... its like 200%  ;D

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Re: Serious Question....
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2013, 10:11:06 AM »
Its a big phyche out to be 6' and see 180 on scale....havent seen that since HS now looking at 195 and getting chills.
look in the fucken mirror you retard. who gives a flying fuck what the scale says when you look like a fucking god. this is why you look like the average guy. you have an average mindset. think like a god and you will look like a god as long as you are willing to do what it takes.

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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2013, 10:11:52 AM »
look in the fucken mirror you retard. who gives a flying fuck what the scale says when you look like a fucking god. this is why you look like the average guy. you have an average mindset. think like a god and you will look like a god as long as you are willing to do what it takes.

whats if his eyes mean he can never look straight  :-*
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