Author Topic: What went wrong after 1998? (Read 18276 times)

More than anything, there's been a steep decline in talent. Most guys who have earned their pro card since 1998 are not pro caliber. There used to be talented rookies making immediate impacts. Guys like Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler, Mike Francois, Porter Cottrell, and Kevin Levrone. For whatever reason, talented physiques like these don't come up from the amateur ranks like they used to.

@Brandon · « **Reply #80 on:** December 30, 2005, 12:51:55 AM »

Before we just had the magazines.
After the mid 90´s the internet made it possible for pros to market themselves on the internet,
Pictures and Pros posting on the net started to show the world that a pro is often just a dumb juiced up retarded person dressing up
as a clown with bad attitude.
BB´s like Guy Grundy and kamali make ppl start laugh at and ridicule pro bb´ing.

phyxsius · « **Reply #81 on:** December 30, 2005, 12:58:07 AM »

Quote from: GMCtrk on December 29, 2005, 08:38:32 PM

and ronnie

sorry mate.. although I'm not a fan, perhaps never but I don't think he can beat Ronnie in back double bi.

IceCold · « **Reply #82 on:** December 30, 2005, 09:09:59 AM »

that just may be the best back double bi shot EVER. not only is it extremely, detailed and thick but that is also 260 lbs. - compared to ronnie's best iin 98 at a bw of 247. imagine how that would look in person.

not many peole have a christmas tree while doing a double bi shot.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #83 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:23:12 AM »

I think that shot smokes any back shot from Ronnie , look at how low his lats insert its almost at his pelvis and his back is imensely thick and separated and like someone else pointed out you can see an x-mas tree in the back double bicepshot , that back shot is complete from head to toe , he has ripped glutes and his hams look great coupled that with amazing calves and you have a back double bicep shot that can't be matched.

Double XL · « **Reply #84 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:23:59 AM »

Quote from: GMCtrk on December 29, 2005, 09:02:49 PM

Based on your responses I have seen in this forum, the only idiot around here is you. And please learn how to spell offense.

HAHA,LISTEN TO THIS CLOWN, HE ACTUALLY BELIVES HIMSELF, HAHAHA!!!!

Double XL · « **Reply #85 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:26:13 AM »

THATS A GOOD SHOT OF DORIAN, BUT THEIR ARE MUCH BETTER SHOTS OF RONNIE IN THE BACK DOUBLE BI, RONNIE HAS YATES BEAT ON, BACK, ARMS, GLUTES AND HAMSTRINGS, EVERYTHING BUT CALVES. BUT OH WAIT, GOING BY THE LOGIC OF SOME OF YOU IDIOTS, YATES HAS BETTER CALVES SO HE WINS!!!!

Double XL · « **Reply #86 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:46:35 AM »

LIGHTS OUT DORIAN NUTHUGGERS/RONNIE HATERS, LIGHTS OUT BABY HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=50015.0

DORIAN NUTHUGGERS/RONNIE HATERS=O W N E D, AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WHY DO THEY KEEP COMING BACK FOR MORE? WE'LL NEVER KNOW, THEY MUST LOVE GETTING OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #87 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:59:03 AM »

I made the comment "Tongue and Cheek" to the reporter.

1st of all I dont get drunk.
2nd of all, I knew I was not going to win after Pre Jugding by speaking with one of the Expeditors in the know

.
That being said it was easier to perform at the night show and enjoy myself knowing the end result without surprise or expectation, which is why I made that comment.
I have since gotten over the loss but looking back 11 years now I sympathize with Wheeler, Levrone & Cutler all of whom could have won the Olympia but didn't. $:-\$
Nothing to cry about but that's the way things go.
I was there, I did my best and I have since moved on.
I personally was never a Yates Physique fan and made no bones about that in the Press but as a person he seemed cool and collected.
Peace,
Shawn

pumpster · « **Reply #88 on:** December 30, 2005, 10:59:29 AM »

Quote

that just may be the best back double bi shot EVER.

SINCE YOU'RE SLOBBERING OVER YATES, ENJOY THIS..

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #89 on:** December 30, 2005, 12:36:33 PM »

Quote from: robocop on December 28, 2005, 11:26:40 AM

quality of physiques went down hill after 1998! Why,how what happend?

It's the insulin, bro. Many people point their fingers at GH and synthol, but the reality is that the bloaed aists and smooth muscles, which have become so common since those days, have insulin to blame for their existence.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

KTMckay · « **Reply #90 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:21:31 AM »

Quote from: Gord on December 29, 2005, 11:12:47 AM

Gunter looked excellent this year and his placing was no gift. If anyhting he should've placed higher.

Your hero, Ronnie, has his share of gifts and he adds to them every passing year.

Get the hell out of here

gtbro1 · « **Reply #91 on:** April 05, 2006, 12:27:05 AM »

Quote from: Hulkster on December 28, 2005, 09:33:14 PM

1994 Olympia was the turning point...

that was the first contest where the huge, powerlifter type physique, complete with gut and torn muscles, defeated a career best shape shawn ray, all because shawn was "smaller"

I knew Hulkster would mention 1994 Olympia!!....but he is right. $:-\$

gordiano · « **Reply #92 on:** April 05, 2006, 01:44:20 AM »

Quote from: WiseGuy on December 28, 2005, 11:41:09 AM

it was whenever Haney left.....

$:-\$

Yep. After Lee, size became the only thing judges gave a shit about.

the shadow · « **Reply #93 on:** April 05, 2006, 04:42:19 AM »

i think yates never got any gift placings.yates and his grainy condition was too much for any 1 to handle.i think so none of his victories were close call.his back in 1994 was just too big and from the rear yates was in his league of his own and his monster calves wich were truly unmatched.no one.......!!!!!!i say no one was even close 2 yatesin back poses and side chest poses and his trade mark triceps pose and all in all yates was unbeatable

and second of all ronnie coleman did not win only because of hams and glutes......FLEX WHEELER IS THE MOST OVERRATED f**cker EVER.......HE SHOULD HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN A PRO.SAME WITH FUCKIN SHAWN'THE GIRLY VOICED' RAY.......ronnie won by virtue of his back,hams ,glutets,armsetc.ronnie had the whole package and thats it.....i will say yates and coleman r at par with each other...no difference wat so ever.and yes gut or no guts.they both were equallly good and the total sandow count of 14 was the result......

Guy Grundy · « **Reply #94 on:** July 05, 2006, 12:10:55 AM »

Quote from: IceCold on December 30, 2005, 09:09:59 AM

that just may be the best back double bi shot EVER. not only is it extremely, detailed and thick but that is also 260 lbs. - compared to ronnie's best iin 98 at a bw of 247. imagine how that would look in person.

not many peole have a christmas tree while doing a double bi shot.

I take it that you are not a fan?

Guy
www.grundydvd.com

Bear · « **Reply #95 on:** July 05, 2006, 07:23:39 AM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2005, 02:12:31 PM

Yates in 97 was a gift , Yates in 94 was not , no one complained about Dorian's win in 94 , and even Shawn Ray said he got the place he deserved so on paper Yates got one gift and Coleman got a gift in 98 by virtue of ripped glutes & tigher hams , 2001 he got a huge gift and you can make a hard case for Levrone in 2000 and 2002 , but either way Coleman has many more close calls so who is overrated?

If you think 98 was a gift you have no eyes!

the shadow · « **Reply #96 on:** July 05, 2006, 08:18:17 AM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on December 30, 2005, 10:59:03 AM

I made the comment "Tongue and Cheek" to the reporter.
1st of all I dont get drunk.
2nd of all, I knew I was not going to win after Pre Jugding by speaking with one of the Expeditors in the know .
That being said it was easier to perform at the night show and enjoy myself knowing the end result without surprise or expectation, which is why I made that comment.
I have since gotten over the loss but looking back 11 years now I sympathize with Wheeler, Levrone & Cutler all of whom could have won the Olympia but didn't. $:-\$
Nothing to cry about but that's the way things go.
I was there, I did my best and I have since moved on.
I personally was never a Yates Physique fan and made no bones about that in the Press but as a person he seemed cool and collected.
Peace,
Shawn

THESE R THE WORDS OF A LOSER...UR NOTHING BUT A LOUD MOUTH LOSER....

LuciusFox · « **Reply #97 on:** July 05, 2006, 08:23:57 AM »

Quote from: Bear on July 05, 2006, 07:23:39 AM

If you think 98 was a gift you have no eyes!

Narcissistic Deity is a blind fool!

jaejonna · « **Reply #98 on:** July 05, 2006, 08:28:41 AM »

hahahaha monster Yates vs Coleman fuel to the fued that will last forever..

MB · « **Reply #99 on:** July 05, 2006, 09:08:54 AM »

Bodybuilders trying to play the size game, that's what went wrong. Can you think of any bodybuilders that looked their best at their heaviest contest weight? You would have to go all the way back to Lee Haney, a time when bodybuilders didn't emphasize bodyweight. Yates, Coleman, Levrone, Wheeler, Cutler; none of the top guys the last 15 years who have come in at their heaviest have looked their best. Using the scales as a barometer of progress has hurt bodybuilding.

Author Topic: What went wrong after 1998? (Read 18276 times)

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