Galeniko, How is that Kidney doing?

[TrueGrit]

Try 25-30 percent bodyfat.  That was right before dieting for Mr. Getbig.  I was forcefeeding myself to deadlift 600 again. 

This is your most beastly..

[The Ugly]

TA has deadlifted 225 for 112 reps, this is a getbig record.

It may have been 113 I can't remember for sure.

Maybe watch the video again to be sure?

[Vince B]

Gal and CF + steroids and bro science = all drugs!

[Mawse]

gal is pretty much the opposite of 'all drugs', he's about low doses and discipline instead of mega abuse, perma bulking and then running 150mg tren, 200mcg T3 and enough clen to kill cardiac tissue in an attempt to drop weight without dieting.

why not do 200mg test + 200mg of nandrolone? That's pretty much what HIV patients get (got) put on and they are much more 'delicate' than healthy individuals.. they also get given massive doses of HGH but that's another story.

I don't think 1-2cc's a week would have any real health risks, Gal's diet and smoking would probably give him worse numbers.. also doing cardio 30 mins ED fairly hard, keeping stress low and eating enough healthy fats would help.

At the end of the day numbers are just numbers.. Gal, did you find out if the eGFR (kidney) was artificially low because of post workout muscle damage + protein? they just estimate that number (hence the 'e') off BUN etc and they assume those based on a fat average sedentary person with no muscle tissue breakdown..

[galeniko]

Actually there is some Test production by the body. If the production stops completely, you are on TRT for life

actually it never stops entirely,if it does, youre dead


that said,theres the natty pics out there, still looking flawless, just bit smaller

[galeniko]

Here is Bob Paris not on steroids.  He is not All Drugs in this picture.

this is not ust not on steroids, this is also not training and not dieting like a trainer.

very bad example.

the difference between natty and trt is not extremly huge

difference between a gramm and nothing, yeah thatll be looking very different.

but mr paris in that pic hasnt even traine for a very long time.might aswell show a pic of him before he ever lifted a weight

[anabolichalo]

this is not ust not on steroids, this is also not training and not dieting like a trainer.

very bad example.

the difference between natty and trt is not extremly huge

difference between a gramm and nothing, yeah thatll be looking very different.

but mr paris in that pic hasnt even traine for a very long time.might aswell show a pic of him before he ever lifted a weight

first you said that the jump from natural to 250mg was the biggest jump and

then jump to 500 or 1000 is much less significant

[galeniko]

I hope you can fight better than you can spell, stupid. Bring your bat, you coward. Anytime.

ok say the location cooordinates, make sure to wear the tap out dress and you can bring your boyfriend along too

ready when you are,ballchoker

first you said that the jump from natural to 250mg was the biggest jump and

then jump to 500 or 1000 is much less significant

halo, today having very moody day, tone down the provocations

what i said is the first cycle will be the best if done right.biggest jump,entering a new zone.

the difference will be plenty of lbs more muscle at leanest vs leanest.

but running a gramm for years will produce those same gains on top of that,maybe even more.

therefore, the difference to natty will be remarkable.

but the first cycle will be the biggest jump, which isnt exactly hard, seeing how natural compares to small dose.its like being supercharged.

on a gramm, its like supercharged+turbo or nitrous.

250-500 ump will give another solid gains, and the 500-1000step yet another, but nothing will compare mg per mg to the first initial jumping on gear.simply bc its entering a new world, whereas later,its just upping the boost, so to say.

the ppl on a gramm, those will deserve the "all drugs" tag somewhat, they wont look nothing alike when off.

this explained good enough?

[arce1988]

gal is one of the best people here

[galeniko]

I understand that pharmacology is not your strong point, just know that you can't over simplify things to fit your pre cnveived agenda here. It's the equivalent of me saying that I can cook meat in a microwave because it does the same thing as a stove top or a BBQ >>>it cooks it.

as far own production shutdown goes, its not so simple as many believe.

if one was totaly shut down and ran only test prop, can even run 2 gramms weekly, and stops, no pct no nothing, if the own production was shut down, and the prop ester clears the system entirely withn few days, they "should" die, no man nor woman can live without testosterone.

but it doesnt happen, its always a partial shutdown, to different levels, sometimes very low, sometimes not so low.

also, its always dependent which ester and when it kicks in, the shutdown rate will never be the same on the day on the shot compared to 10 days later.

when ppl dramaticaly say "doesnt produce any test nomore" theyre full of shit,overdramtaizing things, it should say"test levels very or extrwemly low"

a good sign to observe is the following, the cumload(now the various closet homos are getting aroused im sure) when on peds will often be very thick and white, when going off will become softer and clearer, this is already a sign of recovery.and this isnt broscience this is straight from a trt doctor.

this wasnt direted at you,you know this topic and are informed.

[arce1988]

a good sign to observe is the following, the cumload (now the various closet homos are getting aroused im sure) when on peds will often be very thick and white, when going off will become softer and clearer,

^


 

[Mr Nobody]

gal is one of the best people here

X2

[WalterWhite]

gal is one of the best people here

x3

[galeniko]

I appreciate anybody on these boards that is prepared to be honest and issue advice based on their experiences. Galeniko was intelligent enough to get his body checked out and listen to the results. You can't knock a man for that.

and ready to share the experience and to make ppl think hopefuly.

always always, keep the blood pressure checked.if this goes out of whack, something must be done about it.this is the start.something as simple as overeating will cause this.dont believe?have an all buffet you eat cheat day and check bp.

liver parameters, esp for the orals users.liver can get inflamed fast,but generaly recovers fast too

cholesterol, well, this needs no explanation.be sure to find out why its bad if it is

kidney parameters, keep an eye on them, if the BUN is out of whack after 2 days off training and on empty stomach, be cautious.

kidneys dont just fall out,the chronic disease is a slow development.

just bc bloodwork comes out "ok-ish" doesnt mean everythings ok.

but when it comes out not so ok-ish then somethings not been right for a while.

make sure to do the testing after 2 days off the gym,and no shitloads of protein eaten on those 2 days, also no binges.

thats it play safe

[Vince B]

Just so people know. The universities seldom do any studies on advanced bodybuilders and drug use. Why? They can't get those studies past the ethics committee. In other words, they don't want to pay compensation for negative side effects to experimental subjects. QED. So there is no science when it comes to steroid use. Instead you have anecdotal info and guru advice = bro science. Don't come on here claiming you have studied the science and know the consequences. Good kidneys to those who think they are smart. I find it reprehensible that some muscleheads post here and contaminate the already dull flotsam. There is an ugly core of miss-info floating around these forums.

Steve Reeves was natural and he still looks better than anyone before or since and that was in 1947. Dianabol was available in the late fifties and early sixties.

[galeniko]

x2 I wish to comment on this as well 

Good luck galeniko being natural isn't so bad you still look better than 99% of our disgusting population.

Also gal is in no way shape or form a bro-scientist. Most of what he posts is very accurate/intelligent imho.

hey brother, lol, no problemo, thank god im not infested with the size over anything mental disorder, the little bit shrinking will do me good.it was realy just the finishing touch.wil show the pics to the ones who arw worthy imo, but not openly post them.

and thats right, i just post the stuff in poor lingo, but its not made up or repeated from the internet, its all very solid scientific info.bit modified,gal lingo, but same thing really.

Just so people know. The universities seldom do any studies on advanced bodybuilders and drug use. Why? They can't get those studies past the ethics committee. In other words, they don't want to pay compensation for negative side effects to experimental subjects. QED. So there is no science when it comes to steroid use. Instead you have anecdotal info and guru advice = bro science. Don't come on here claiming you have studied the science and know the consequences. Good kidneys to those who think they are smart. I find it reprehensible that some muscleheads post here and contaminate the already dull flotsam. There is an ugly core of miss-info floating around these forums.

Steve Reeves was natural and he still looks better than anyone before or since and that was in 1947. Dianabol was available in the late fifties and early sixties.

shut the fuck off asshole.

there are studies on ppl who trained on gear.

steve reeves looks better than anyone, fuck off with your masturbation fantasies

[galeniko]

From what I gather he does it because he likes the feeling it gives him, uses it to increase his appeal to women, and he enjoys life while on.  Nothing wrong with any of that at all.  If he can do all of those things without steroids, that may be optimal.  Or if he can find a balance between using and not using instead of going full bore.  Its all up to him to decide.

nah it just allows to keep great fullness while being shredded

feeling, well, pump is nice but not mandatory, on the diet the pumps havent been so great,certainly not addictive.

[Vince B]

galeniko = broscientist guru. Follow at your peril! You are like a virus here contaminating the gullible.

[Hulkotron]

Just so people know. The universities seldom do any studies on advanced bodybuilders and drug use. Why? They can't get those studies past the ethics committee. In other words, they don't want to pay compensation for negative side effects to experimental subjects. QED. So there is no science when it comes to steroid use. Instead you have anecdotal info and guru advice = bro science. Don't come on here claiming you have studied the science and know the consequences. Good kidneys to those who think they are smart. I find it reprehensible that some muscleheads post here and contaminate the already dull flotsam. There is an ugly core of miss-info floating around these forums.

Steve Reeves was natural and he still looks better than anyone before or since and that was in 1947. Dianabol was available in the late fifties and early sixties.

Silence you ignorant old bag of wind. There's tons of research on steroid use in bodybuilders. Here's several dozen that I found in 5 seconds:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=steroids+bodybuilding

You know fuck-all about science, stop parading around here like you have half a clue.

[arce1988]

reeves used ped


this was directly from vince g. and armand t.

[galeniko]

It was probably Gal's harsh dieting that was the main culprit.

pretty much.

astonishing that out of all ppl ,shizzo kept the rationale, and has unblurred vision of things.

the walking round all year in a shape most dont even hit on contest day is bit too much.

maybe the best post of you this whole year.haha

hulkotron,its almost pointless to have a discussion with the senile child affinitate vince

[Wolfox]

WTF, this isn't the post of a man basking in the glow of HRT. You've begun coming off, I take it?

Also, please don't insinuate violence against me again (fist fucking is a very violent act that can cause permanent damage) -- the authorities that you seem to think occasionally monitor your online activity (hence your endless wave of deleting posts like a bipolar person) may take it as a sign of recividism.

p.s. Do they give you a curfew?  

Can you imagine deleting thousands of your own posts? That's scary paranoia. 3x for galeniko.

[arce1988]

great stuff by gal


shizz made a great post too


Ockham's razor

[galeniko]

WTF, this isn't the post of a man basking in the glow of HRT. You've begun coming off, I take it?

Also, please don't insinuate violence against me again (fist fucking is a very violent act that can cause permanent damage) -- the authorities that you seem to think occasionally monitor your online activity (hence your endless wave of deleting posts like a bipolar person) may take it as a sign of recividism.

p.s. Do they give you a curfew?  

this will be the withdrawals

[galeniko]

ta took steroids


he suffered badly from estrogen sides see pic


bit hypocritical trolling other people for doing it

gal is sensible enough to put his health first

he will still look better natural than most of the board

yeah,im sorry to not carry on and not becoming another statistic for the entertainment of 1 day.

yah ppl will still say all drugs even when im fully natty