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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2014, 12:30:40 PM »

Cos that what happens when you read Flex magazine and buy the cell tech.


Perhaps its their short arms/legs relative to their body and bio-mechanics.  

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2014, 12:31:36 PM »


I know exactly what you have cos I have the same fucking thing man.

Read this, this is my doctors report from this summer.

My shoulder report from Sept:

I saw this charming man today who has got new problems in his left shoulder. He does weight training about 6 times a week and feels pain felt over the anterior deltoid, down towards the biceps insertion in his elbow in his proximal forearm.

Clinically, he has a mixed picture of bicipital tendonosis and subacromial impingement syndrome and hence we arranged initially an MRI scan. This shows large nearly one centimeter diameter anterospuerior para labral cust. He has got subacromial bursitus with impingment, some calcific change at the junction of the supraspinatus and infraspinatus. His LHB actually looks normal and on the ultrasound too the LHB looks normal as does the bicep insertion.

We have tried to resolve his symptoms without surgery today by injection his subacrimial bursa with Depomedrone under ultrasound control, the he need some phsiotherapy to try and stretch up his biceps muscle to reduce tention on the biceps insertion, even though this is normal to imaging.

I am hoping that this combined with perhaps slightly altering his regime, will resolve matters for him.

If this works for him all well and good, otherwise I fear he may need an arthroscopy and resection/decompression of his para labral cyst. I have asked him to return to see me in 4 weeks time once he has had the benefical effect of todays injection and some in house phsyiotherapy.


I was in the gym two hours after the injection doing Chest, Shoulders & Tri's  :)



Report from 2 month or so ago:


" I saw this charming man in my clinic today. He has got a flare up of both shoulders symptoms, worse on the right than the left. We imaged him in the past and he has got bilateral bursitis with impingement on the left hand side. In the past, he has had two injections into the right shoulder and more recently into the left shoulder. The right is now the worst and we have injected both shoulders today for him into the subacromial bursae to calm his symptoms down. I have explained to him that, in my hand a maximum of three injections is the limit.


My shoulder pain fucks me all the time, but I ain't gonna do the surgery, I over came the L4-L5 with no surgery and gonna do the same with the shoulders.

I am now worried if I go on test from tomorrow I might go nuts and really fuck my shoulder up but we will see.


Seriously I know the GH has bunch of effects you don't want but 5 IU IM into the delts, right in the nerve or near where it hurts helps a lot man.


Really hope this ends well for you bro.

All the best champ

man, do the surgery, you will erode away tissue like i did eventualy,and then it will become unmanageable.

Why is everyone here so prone to injury?  ???

I have never had a break in heavy lifting longer than a week and never once had an issue.
doc says its structuarly given at birth.

and not to start pissing match, but i lifted very very heavy in my past.big big big error.

strong like ox on all upper body stuff.

lol i can skull crush more than most ppl bench in the gym :D

Perhaps its their short arms/legs relative to their body and bio-mechanics. 
nah its simply that type 3 thing.the bone overlap.is genetic given.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2014, 12:31:59 PM »
thats cause you are juiced to the gills bro  :D
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2014, 12:35:09 PM »
My condolences galeniko, from my brief time here you appear to be a fantastic bodybuilder.

Hopefully, you'll come back stronger from this.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2014, 12:38:29 PM »
man, do the surgery, you will erode away tissue like i did eventualy,and then it will become unmanageable.
doc says its structuarly given at birth.

and not to start pissing match, but i lifted very very heavy in my past.big big big error.

strong like ox on all upper body stuff.

lol i can skull crush more than most ppl bench in the gym :D
nah its simply that type 3 thing.the bone overlap.is genetic given.




What's the point to have surgery, you come back do the same shit again and then fuck it up all over.

Surgery ain't gonna help the root cause of the problem, a brain transplant might!

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #105 on: January 13, 2014, 12:41:07 PM »
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lol i can skull crush more than most ppl bench in the gym


How much can you skull crush?

I use the 50s but that's after bench and incline.
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #106 on: January 13, 2014, 12:43:44 PM »


How much can you skull crush?

I use the 50s but that's after bench and incline.
You do chest and triceps on the same day?

LOL  ;D

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #107 on: January 13, 2014, 12:44:34 PM »

What's the point to have surgery, you come back do the same shit again and then fuck it up all over.

Surgery ain't gonna help the root cause of the problem, a brain transplant might!

yeah but then can work around the problem zones painfree, thats good enough.




How much can you skull crush?

 
plenty.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #108 on: January 13, 2014, 12:45:46 PM »
You do chest and triceps on the same day?

LOL  ;D

Yup.
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #109 on: January 13, 2014, 12:49:26 PM »
yeah but then can work around the problem zones painfree, thats good enough.

plenty.




You sure your skull crushers are not really more like dumbell pullovers? Elbow move 1 cm, doesn't count!  :)

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #110 on: January 13, 2014, 12:50:12 PM »
Getbig is like a virtual junkyard for humans it seems.

thats why you fit in so well  :-*
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #111 on: January 13, 2014, 12:50:34 PM »
I had 4 broken ribs.......not fun at all.

When I was able to resume training,I exceeded all my previous lifts, and my previous best conditioning,and I was out quite a while.

Gal will be cool as long as he takes his time coming back and doesn`t get impatient and try to rush things.

I had a broken rib before. It is the worst.

A close second was a tear in my left glute. I kept training and eventually it strangled my sciatic nerve. The pain was unreal, but the rib sucks cause coughing, sneezing, laughing... Even deep breathing all suck and there is nothing you can do. They don't even wrap you anymore.
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« Reply #112 on: January 13, 2014, 12:52:54 PM »
did they operte you like with 2 or 3 small holes into shoulder?thats what they gonna do with me, they said they can go in the with camera etc.fucking hell ;D

so you can do the exercises again that hurt previously?

or better?can you do like swimmer movemnt with arms, but furiously fast without pain?

thank goodness my left shoulder is fine,even though its most likely similiarly built.



Yes, three small holes.  I'll PM you a pic if you want.   I can do ALL shoulder related injuries and bench pressing without pain, although i have to be careful to make sure I don't get imbalances, impingements and maintain flexibility.

It worked so well, I would do might right one now, but I'm enjoying exercise and such so I'm going to hold off.
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #113 on: January 13, 2014, 12:53:02 PM »
I had a broken rib before. It is the worst.

A close second was a tear in my left glute. I kept training and eventually it strangled my sciatic nerve. The pain was unreal, but the rib sucks cause coughing, sneezing, laughing... Even deep breathing all suck and there is nothing you can do. They don't even wrap you anymore.
Yup,sneezing was the worst....felt like your entire body was going to fly into little pieces.

I can`t imagine a torn glute,that had to be a helluva` lot of pain just walking around.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #114 on: January 13, 2014, 12:56:06 PM »
Yes, three small holes.  I'll PM you a pic if you want.   I can do ALL shoulder related injuries and bench pressing without pain, although i have to be careful to make sure I don't get imbalances, impingements and maintain flexibility.

It worked so well, I would do might right one now, but I'm enjoying exercise and such so I'm going to hold off.


shit I might have to consider getting this done then...hmmm

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2014, 12:59:47 PM »
so bc of permenent non stop pains in shoulder, affected not only training since years, but everyday life pains got worse and worse.

decided to have a rontgen scan at doctors, he found somethings very wrong but couldnt see it,so we did the mri or rmi or whatever,that tunnel that they put you in ,very tight and very loud.then the inner stuff of body is xrayed or whatever.

they give anestsia injection(this one was small),then they inect some fluid to be seen on the xray pics, goddamn that needle scared me,haha.

so the results are back and talked to doctor.

theres much doctoric lingo in the letter-result of mri test, but to sum it up in layman getbigger terms, the shoulder is entirely fucked up.(but it says literaly that the shoulder muscles are extremly-extraodrinarily huge and strong).theres freakng parts missing!and inflammation edemas.

he asked me how i can still work with that,let alone work out.

the advice is to pretty much stop training immediately and have operation asap.

he said its actualy not from lifting,but genetic predosposition, the shoulder structure was bit off since birth.

i can list the doctor lingo if theres some docs here who care,but in conclusion, the recovery time post op(8-10weeks,fuuuuck,)and the re growing of muscle will most likely mean no summer of love parading the beaches jacked and shredded :-X

this is hugely demotivation.a devastating blow of destiny

those guns for arms will shrink away to nothingness :-\




real story

have to come of steroids - will shrink to true tiny size

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #116 on: January 13, 2014, 01:00:35 PM »

real story

have to come of steroids - will shrink to true tiny size

You don't have to come off HRT for surgery dummy.

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2014, 01:02:11 PM »

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« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2014, 01:12:52 PM »
we will see about that ;D ;D

no seriously, everyones in denial and wishful thinking about it maybe going away,and maybe bit afraid or worried about the hassle coming with the op, but its best to go through.

i men i waited until some stuff was eroded within the shoulder capsule, this is now too late for cortisol, for rehab exercise,eeverything.why no surgery?

I haven't ruled it out yet, I am back at the doctors in a couple of weeks.  The main issue it seems is the bursa and I was hoping that it would come good just by stopping weight training and a few cortisol injections.. It improved where I didn't notice it doing normal day to day activities or sleeping, but the moment I started lifting again, bang, instant pain and inflammation for days. It is worst in a particular range of motion, usually between 60-90 degrees. I guess I had also had enough of training, I had been at the weights on and off for over twenty years and was beginning to question the value of it. My goals have changed, I am in my early 40's now and would like to get as lean as possible, and improve my cardiovascular endurance.  To tell the truth, I hate the thought of surgery, a few years ago I had a severed achilles tendon and had to have immediate surgery and was unable to walk for six months, the hospital experience, the rehab the pain and the expense lingers in my memory.  I like to give the body every chance to heal itself.  

Just to add, I think one of the issues that never gets mentioned with weight training is the potential for long term nagging injuries.  I think long term weight training inevitably leads to injuries via an accumulation effect, some injuries are manageable, and some are not.  I think shoulder injuries are the one that stops a lot of people training, it is such a complex joint and involved in almost all upper body exercises, and can be very difficult to work around.  

Either way I think I would have stopped lifting, I suppose everyone is different, but I did start lifting as a young teenager in the hope of getting as big and intimidating as possible, only in the hope of warding of any violence, as I grew up in a pretty physically abusive home that extended to attracting violence outside of the home. My motivations did change though and I grew to love training and now as a middle aged man, it just doesn't seem to appeal to me the way it used to.  I fell out of love with it I suppose. These days I get a real buzz hiking in the hills for hours at a time.  I happen to live in a pretty nice area with many generous National parks to trek through, so I take as much advantage of that as I can.  I throw in some bike riding now and again and I am happy.  I occasionally do some dumbbell arm curls now and again with a handful of other exercises, but that's about it.  Anyway, good luck with your recovery.
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2014, 01:25:14 PM »
Get well soon Galeniko, your a good dude. You will recover, atleast you don't have HIV

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« Reply #120 on: January 13, 2014, 01:29:39 PM »
shoulder injuries just suck, they never really go away they just lurk and wait for the next chance to fuck your life up.

surgery is pretty last resort imo, is there no other way to treat this issue?


I pretty much just do one arm dumbbell floor press for chest, no barbell anymore, no overhead pressing either just laterals. no hammer strength either, cable machines and ring pushups are great for building scap / serratus stability

good luck man

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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #121 on: January 13, 2014, 01:43:57 PM »
Had severe tendinitis in my right shoulder years ago. From doing excessive weight, forced reps benching etc! Hence the name Ronnie Rep! Anyhow took about 6 months off came back, trained smarter and more efficiently, and made great gains from time off! You will come back better than ever it's in your genes!

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« Reply #122 on: January 13, 2014, 01:58:07 PM »
Yes, three small holes.  I'll PM you a pic if you want.   I can do ALL shoulder related injuries and bench pressing without pain, although i have to be careful to make sure I don't get imbalances, impingements and maintain flexibility.

It worked so well, I would do might right one now, but I'm enjoying exercise and such so I'm going to hold off.
ah thatll be the same operation i guess.

sounds god, tell me about the recovery time, wen where you able to train somewhat heavy again?


or, train good enough to get a proper pump.

i actualy asked the doc to do both sides immediately but he laughed and asked how i plan to do things then in life with no hand available ;D
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #123 on: January 13, 2014, 02:00:51 PM »
You don't have to come off HRT for surgery dummy.
for gyno surgery id advice everyone to come off off everything.lol.

but that wasnt handgiverhomos point,he claiming id shrink to nothing(ie his level)when off hrt.we have established that nothing could be further from the truth.

oh well, ofc not training at all will cause the most possible shrinking.will do a good carbo and test loading the day before op ;D
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Re: geleniko bbuilding "career" temporarily over :-(
« Reply #124 on: January 13, 2014, 02:07:06 PM »
shoulder injuries just suck, they never really go away they just lurk and wait for the next chance to fuck your life up.

surgery is pretty last resort imo, is there no other way to treat this issue?


I pretty much just do one arm dumbbell floor press for chest, no barbell anymore, no overhead pressing either just laterals. no hammer strength either, cable machines and ring pushups are great for building scap / serratus stability

good luck man
thx.
nah op is unavoidable.

theres already erosion happening, permanent inflammation no good for kidneys, and cortisol is no good for that either, it just numbs away the pain, when the cortisol fades away, the pain comes back two times worse.meanwhile youve fucked up the joint even more.

lesson learned.

and yes, to be honest this has its origin in the "badass looka t me" spotted bench reps days.

btw to all who said serratus strenght is important, yes,it is, just wanted to point that out.
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