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Because leftwing liberals do not make good presidents. 

Even if that were true, didn't you say "unelectable"? 


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yet they keep winning elections.  I think it's because 51% of the USA is now liberal, sadly.

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Even if that were true, didn't you say "unelectable"? 



No. 

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I'd like to think she is unelectable, but after we put Obama in the White House twice, anything is possible. 

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it's true tho.  Majority of tv, stores, restaurants, people, elected officials... really everything around us in society is at least 51% liberal.  People disobey laws, people use drugs illegally, people drink and drive, people do all sorts of liberal stuff around us.  No way 51% of people on the road are actual conservatives, no way about it. 

If any getbiggers disagree, please speak up... BB is the only person (I think) that doesn't agree here.  We live in a liberal society now.  Euro has been that way.  We're 51% now, easily.

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Ben Carson: I Don't Want to Run for President, May Have To
Wednesday, 21 May 2014
By Sean Piccoli and Bill Hoffmann

It's not the job Dr. Ben Carson wants, but it may be the job his country needs him to seek, the renowned neurosurgeon said of the presidency in interviews with Newsmax TV on Wednesday.

"It continues to be something that I don't want to do, but I also recognize that our country is in an enormous amount of difficulty," Carson said.

"And if there were a lot of Americans — I mean a lot — who really thought that I should do that, I would have to give it serious consideration.''

In interviews with Steve Malzberg on "The Steve Malzberg Show" and "America's Forum" hosts J.D. Hayworth and John Bachman, the rising conservative star craftily dodged and weaved, deflecting question after question about the 2016 race.

Editor's Note: Dr. Ben Carson's New Book - One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America’s Future

"I still don't want to be president . . . Whether I run or not, I don't want to. Would I consider it if after the November elections [and] the populace has demonstrated that they actually understand what's going on?''

Asked if he had seen a Republican who can articulate the GOP ideology in a way that satisfies him, Carson responded: "Well, it's not there yet, but that doesn't mean that it can't develop because nobody has really announced.''

Asked for the names of some potential candidates he's impressed by, the former chief of pediatric neurosurgery at John Hopkins Children's Center answered: "I like everybody."

But he agreed that if nobody suitable comes forward by the end of 2016, he will make a final decision about whether to run "early next year.''

Asked what his likelihood of running is on a scale of 1 to 10, Carson quipped, "Somewhere between 1 and 10.''

Carson, president of the Carson Scholars Fund and chairman of the anti-Obamacare Save Our Healthcare Project, also discussed his long-term view of politics and controversial support for Monica Wehby — a pro-choice Republican running for the Senate in Oregon.

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Carson, who riled President Barack Obama with unscripted remarks at last year's National Prayer Breakfast, has been making rounds that some think signal White House ambitions of his own by talking up his new book.

It's a compendium of political policy and personal creed, written with his wife, Candy Carson, and called "One Nation: What We Can All Do to Save America's Future," published by Sentinel HC.

Carson said he wrote "One Nation" to re-establish "that we the American people are not each other's enemies."

"We're natural allies," he said, "but we've allowed ourselves to be manipulated by those forces that drive wedges into every possible crack to create a war — gender wars, race wars and income wars and age wars," he said.

The goal being "to keep people at each other's throats, direct them away from the things that are important — things like the economy, the national debt, our casting away of our moral values and the things that allow us to have an identity," he said.

So what would it take to persuade Carson, who's the object of at least one draft movement, to run?

Insisting it's "a little bit early" to contemplate 2016, Carson said, "We have to see what happens in November" with the midterm elections. He also suggested conservatives who sense America's need for a major course correction won't necessarily have to pin their hopes on one person.

If interest in him fades, said Carson, and another candidate emerges who "is speaking the language that people want to hear and can identify with . . . that would be somebody that I can get behind, too."

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Carson used his column this week to explain and defend backing the pro-choice Wehby in Oregon as a move that navigates "a course between principle and pragmatism."

"I always say if two people agree about everything, one of them isn't necessary," Carson said Wednesday as a follow-up to the column. "But what conservatives have to understand is, if they take the attitude after the primary, 'My candidate didn't win; I'm taking my marbles and going home,' they're playing right into the plan of the progressive movement.

"We have to be smarter than that," he said, "and the fact of the matter is, if we take somebody who agrees with us most of the time so that we can gain power, we have the ability to sort out whatever other small differences exist after that," Carson said.

"But if you never get into position to be able to do anything, then, as Hillary would say, what difference does it make? You know, we're not going to get there, we've got to get there first."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ben-carson-republican-president-2016/2014/05/21/id/572717#ixzz32TAQuB00

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Not looking so invincible these days.

2016 poll: Hillary Clinton drops below 50% for first time; 'lackluster' book rollout blamed
BY PAUL BEDARD | JUNE 30, 2014

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's fumbles and bumbles in the rollout of her latest memoir, Hard Choices, has knocked the wind out if her easy sail to the White House and put her support in key 2016 presidential election matchups below 50 percent for the first time.

At a time when she should be padding her lead over the top Republican contenders, her underwhelming effort has cut her numbers, said pollster John Zogby.

In his latest Zogby Analytics survey taken June 27-29, for example, her commanding leads over former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have shrunk greatly, and she doesn't even receive 50 percent of the vote. Worse, her support among married and wealthy voters has plummeted.

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Zogby told Secrets, “Even more than her dwindling leads over GOP contenders is that while she is pretty much running against herself, in a very high-profile book tour, she is losing ground. Her biggest problem, I have always felt, is the inevitability factor. It help do her in in 2007-2008 and right now looks to be her major nemesis. She has this whole playing field to herself and is declining in the polls.”

He called her book tour performance “lackluster,” one that has been plagued with missteps like when she described herself and her husband as "dead broke" upon leaving the White House. The comment drew attention to the tens of millions of dollars they have collected since leaving the White House.

Zogby also warned that since virtually every voter knows — and has an opinion of — Clinton, there isn’t much she can do to broaden her support.

“It is significant that in every case the runaway favorite again polls under 50 percent and that both Governor Bush and Senator Paul continue to increase their support among key groups. Clinton has almost universal name recognition among likely voters and it is unlikely that she could say or do anything to increase her support base,” said Zogby, who provides Secrets with his weekly report card on President Obama, published Saturday mornings.

In the matchups, Clinton now leads Bush, 47 percent to 35 percent. She once held an a 18-point advantage. Against Paul, she leads 48 percent to 36 percent, but once had a 21-point lead. And she would beat Christie 48 percent to 33 percent, but once led, 52 percent to 29 percent.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/2016-poll-hillary-clinton-drops-below-50-for-first-time-lackluster-book-rollout-blamed/article/2550305

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This means Warren: Obama backs challenger to Hillary
By Edward Klein
July 6, 2014

President Obama has quietly promised Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren complete support if she runs for president — a stinging rebuke to his nemesis Hillary Clinton, sources tell me.

Publicly, Obama has remained noncommittal on the 2016 race, but privately he worries that Clinton would undo and undermine many of his policies. There’s also a personal animosity, especially with Bill Clinton, that dates from their tough race six years ago.

A former Harvard law professor and administration aide, Warren would energize the left wing of the Democratic Party just as Obama did against Clinton in 2008.

Thanks to her outspoken stand against big banks and the top 1 percent, Warren is the darling of progressives. She won her Senate seat thanks to millions of dollars in donations from outside Massachusetts, including from rich environmentalists and Hollywood celebrities.

Obama has authorized his chief political adviser, Valerie Jarrett, to conduct a full-court press to convince Warren to throw her hat into the ring.

In the past several weeks, Jarrett has held a series of secret meetings with Warren. During these meetings, Jarrett has explained to Warren that Obama is worried that if Hillary succeeds him in the White House, she will undo many of his policies.

He believes that the populist Warren is the best person to convince the party faithful that Hillary is out of touch with poor Americans and the middle class. Warren, in his view, would carry on the Obama legacy after he leaves the White House.

So far, Warren has been reluctant to make a commitment. During several recent interviews, she has said she has no present plans to run for president.
However, she always phrases her stance on the issue in the present tense and has refused to issue a Shermanesque statement that she will not run for the White House under any circumstances.

“Barack, Michelle and Valerie have been talking about Elizabeth Warren for quite some time,” says an Obama administration source. “Valerie has told Warren that Obama is prepared to throw a great deal of money and organizational support behind her.

“The Obamas believe that Warren sees things from the same ideological point of view as they do. She is a committed progressive who, like Obama, wants to transform America into a European-style democratic-socialist state.”

Bill Clinton has worried for some time about Obama backing another candidate, as I revealed in my book “Blood Feud.”

“I’ve heard from [Democratic] state committeemen about Obama’s preference in ’16,” Bill confided to several of his close friends. “And they tell me that he’s looking around for a candidate who’s just like him. Someone relatively unknown. Someone with a fresh face. He wants to clone himself — to find his Mini-Me.”
Modal TriggerWhen I ran this information before a well-informed Democratic Party operative, he pooh-poohed the scenario.

“It’s all bulls–t,” he said. “The media is creating a Hillary Clinton-Elizabeth Warren rivalry to hype the storyline. If Warren dared to challenge Hillary, women all over America would never forgive her. She’d lose all her credibility.”

That, however, is not the way Valerie Jarrett sees things.

“Both Valerie and Michelle Obama have convinced the president that Elizabeth Warren is his Mini-Me,” said a person who has discussed the issue with Jarrett.
This person continued: “For the time being, the Obamas have decided not to broadcast the fact that they’ve tapped Warren as their chosen candidate. They are waiting until the moment is right, which will probably be after the midterm elections.”

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she causes/hides benghazi, goes on vacation, and still scores higher than any other contender?

i'd hate to see her in full PR mode.  People KNOW her negatives, and she's still over 50%.  They don't know much about the GOPers, and they're lower.   I hope she loses, but i wouldn't bet against her.

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Because leftwing liberals do not make good presidents. 

Hey!! I get this now.  When you said "I'd like to think she's unelectable, ..." all you really meant was you hoped she would never be president.  (Even if she weren't elected -- Like if she were Hillary's VP and came into the office when Hillary got taken out by Soul Crusher or something.)

My bad, I thought you were trying to convey something by using the word "unelectable".

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Hey!! I get this now.  When you said "I'd like to think she's unelectable, ..." all you really meant was you hoped she would never be president.  (Even if she weren't elected -- Like if she were Hillary's VP and came into the office when Hillary got taken out by Soul Crusher or something.)

My bad, I thought you were trying to convey something by using the word "unelectable".

Correct.  No worries.

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Rubio, amid large field of potential 2016 GOP candidates, says Clinton 'not unbeatable'
Published July 12, 2014
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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, considered a top 2016 GOP presidential candidate, says “multiple people” can beat potential Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, despite her commanding lead in early polls.

"Multiple people can beat her," Rubio told radio host Hugh Hewitt. “Hillary Clinton is not unbeatable."

The first-term GOP senator took a familiar line of attack, challenging Clinton’s record as secretary of State, considering she will likely tout her extensive foreign policy credentials should she enter the race.

"I'd ask her: You were the secretary of State during the first four years of the Obama administration, name one significant foreign policy achievement, now or after you left,” Rubio said in the interview Friday.

"The reset with Russia has been a disaster, the Middle East is more unstable today than it's been in I don't know when, our relationship with Latin America and democracies have deteriorated …our partners around the world view us as less reliable."

He also downplayed her efforts to help establish a democratic government in Burma.

“I don’t think Burma could be held up as a place where great progress has been made,” Rubio said.

Rubio is running behind five other potential GOP presidential candidates, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, according to an averaging of polls by the non-partisan website RealClearPolitics.com.

Clinton has 65 percent of the potential vote and is 53.3 percentage points ahead of her closest potential Democratic challenger, Vice President Biden, according to the website.

Rubio on Friday also discussed his own foreign policy views.

He suggested that President Obama hasn’t given Israel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu this country’s full support and that his efforts in Ukraine have created the perception among U.S. enemies that America is weak.

Rubio also supported the recent Supreme Court ruling that owners of closely-held, for-profit companies such as the Hobby Lobby art-and-crafts retailer cannot be forced under ObamaCare to provide employees with the types of contraceptives that offend their religious beliefs.

"What [Senate Majority Leader] Harry Reid and his party is arguing is that the government should have the power to force individual Americans to pay for things that they find objectionable because of their religion," he said. "If this was a case about Hobby Lobby being able to fire people that work for them who use contraception, that would be a different story. ... There are protections for that in this country and our Constitution that he seeks to ignore. And I think [Democrats] think they have a political winner. I disagree."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/12/rubio-amid-large-field-potential-2016-gop-candidates-says-clinton-not/

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Perry, jeb, and a few others can put hilary in her place.  Ron paul would have destroyed her in a debate.   Heck, liz warren can/will demolish her if they ever face off in a primary.

But some of these young folks... sorry, but I don't see Rubio as the one to let the nation know, after 30+ years, that the clintons are completely full of shit.  Obama couldn't - he only said "look at me, I'm shiny and new" and he barely won.

Repubs need a serious candidate with gravitas to defeat hilary.  I hope it isn't rubio.  He has that giggly, unprepared look that just comes out at all th wrong times.  he's not sure of himself yet. He need 5 more years before he's ready. 

I know, "Team Rubber Stamp Approval" will immediately chime to his defense about how a bag of cat hair could beat hilary in 2016, but for those of us living in reality, he's not a good 2016 choice.

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I think she is running.

Progressives turn from Obama to embrace Warren
By Robert Costa
July 14 at 7:40 PM 

SHEPHERDSTOWN, W.Va. — Populist Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) got a rock-star reception during a standing-room-only campaign rally here Monday, as hundreds of liberal activists cheered her broadsides against corporate interests and voiced hopes that her presence might shift the political winds in an increasingly Republican state.

The rally on behalf of Senate candidate Natalie Tennant was the latest in a string of recent Warren appearances in red and blue states alike, where Democratic base voters have embraced her fiery message as an envoy to working-class voters frustrated with both Wall Street and the Obama administration.

“Our job is to fight for the families of America,” Warren said, speaking to a packed ballroom at the Clarion Hotel in West Virginia’s eastern panhandle. “Stitch up the tax loopholes so that millionaires and billionaires pay at the same tax rate as the people in this room.”

Warren stumped in Kentucky late last month for Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes, who, like Tennant, is running for the Senate in a state easily won by Republican Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election. Later this week, the freshman senator and former Harvard professor will be in Michigan supporting Democratic Senate candidate Gary Peters.

Warren also has visited Oregon, Ohio, Washington and Minnesota this year and has made dozens of e-mail solicitations on behalf of Democratic Senate colleagues — an unusually aggressive effort by a senator who has repeatedly denied interest in a presidential campaign. In Kentucky, Warren raised more than $200,000 for Grimes, who is running against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R).

Democratic Senate candidate Natalie Tennant (W.Va.) says Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) is "just like West Virginians who have grown up in rural West Virginia." Warren campaigned for Tennant on Monday.

Here in West Virginia — an early stage for Democrats with national ambitions going back to John F. Kennedy in 1960 — Warren was greeted as a progressive hero, with several attendees pleading with her to run for president. Tennant’s campaign hopes that Warren’s populist message will help her close the gap against her well-funded GOP opponent, Rep. Shelley Moore Capito.

“We’re sinking, we’re barely treading water in West Virginia,” said Danette Jones, a local Democrat, as Warren was swarmed by admirers after her speech. “We’re looking for someone who’s going to stop the back-scratching, and she’s one of those people.”

On the other side of the state in Charleston, Capito campaigned with Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a conservative favorite and former Republican vice-presidential nominee. Capito sharply criticized Tennant for appearing with Warren, who supports the president’s push to lower carbon emissions — a controversial position in a state where the coal industry is one of the economy’s central drivers.

“West Virginians told us today that they want their next senator to stand up for an all-of-the-above energy agenda that embraces coal,” Capito said. “They want someone who will fix the problems with Obamacare. They want someone who will stop strangling regulations from killing jobs and small businesses. That’s exactly what I’m prepared to do.”

The dueling events are a microcosm of this year’s broader national debate ahead of the November midterms, with Ryan and Warren seen as their respective parties’ leaders on issues important to middle-class voters. Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman, has spent months making speeches on poverty, while Warren — a longtime financial consumer advocate and bankruptcy expert — has traveled the country giving populist speeches as part of a tour for her latest book, “A Fighting Chance .”


Tennant remains the underdog in the hotly contested Senate race, with most polls showing Capito — a well-known daughter of a former West Virginia governor — comfortably ahead. Capito also has a fundraising advantage, bringing in more than $1 million last quarter compared with $777,000 raised by Tennant in the same period, according to campaign advisers.

The victor will succeed retiring Democratic Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV and become the Mountain State’s first female U.S. senator .

The trepidation that some Democrats feel in standing with President Obama — along with former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton’s absence on the midterm campaign trail — has provided an opening for Warren, who excites the base voters and small-dollar donors critical to any Democratic contender’s chances.

Warren’s visit was perhaps the biggest moment so far in an otherwise sleepy race. Tennant said her only other major surrogate has been Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.), a freshman and moderate Democrat who is little known outside her state. Scores of cameras lined the back of the ballroom, and dozens of reporters clumped around two cloth-covered tables near the podium.

Warren, 65, — who has repeatedly said she will not seek the White House in 2016 — focused her pitch on pocketbook issues such as student loans and Social Security while blasting banks and big businesses for tilting federal laws in their favor. Again and again, Warren thrust her fists in the air as union members and college-age volunteers in the crowd roared their approval.


“Citibank and Goldman Sachs and all those other guys on Wall Street, they’ve got plenty of folks in the U.S. Senate willing to work on their side,” Warren said. “We need some more people willing to work on the side of America’s families. Natalie’s that fighter.”

Warren sought to link Capito to the financial sector, calling her one of its top allies in Congress. “When [Wall Street] needs her, she’s been there,” Warren said. “She’s out there for Wall Street, she’s leading the charge.”

Warren also knocked Republicans for opposing an increase to the federal minimum wage — a stance Democrats believe will hurt Capito in a state with one of the nation’s lowest per capita incomes.

In her remarks, Tennant took care to distance herself from Warren and President Obama on energy issues and talked up her support for coal companies. She said in an interview that Obama would have a “lot of explaining to do” if he visited West Virginia because of new proposals by the Environmental Protection Agency to cut carbon dioxide emissions from coal plants.

But Tennant also repeatedly praised Warren as the rare national Democrat who could help win over undecided voters, many of whom have soured on Obama’s agenda but remain skeptical of the Republican Party’s commitment to the poor and blue-collar workers.

“When you look at Senator Warren, she’s just like West Virginians who have grown up in rural West Virginia,” Tennant said, citing Warren’s roots in Oklahoma and her years as a schoolteacher.

Tennant’s decision to invite Warren signals where she stands on the tension within the Democratic Party over whether to move more to the left as it tries to hold on to a slim Senate majority — and that she needs progressives to turn out in droves. Warren, who has frequently railed against the coziness of both parties with corporate titans and hedge-fund managers, is not beloved by some centrist Democratic financiers.


“Natalie Tennant and I do not agree on every issue,” Warren said, but added that they agree on the “core issue,” which she described as passing policies that lift the lives of working families.

“What is this election really about?” Warren asked the crowd, answering her own question: “It’s about whose side you stand on.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/progressives-turn-from-obama-to-embrace-warren/2014/07/14/e117aca2-0b62-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html

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warren would SMASH hilary in a debate on any kind of fiscal responsibility.

granted, warren lied about being 1/8 cherokee or something.  but that affects 1 person that lost out on school funds that she stole. Sucks, but hilary has cost 305 million americans way more.

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Hillary Clinton: Becoming Grandmother Could Halt 2016 Bid
Thursday, 17 Jul 2014
By Todd Beamon

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that becoming a grandmother could derail her bid for the White House in 2016.

"I’m about to have my first grandchild, which I’m thrilled about," Clinton told PBS journalist Charlie Rose in an interview. "I can’t wait."

"I want to see what that feels like," she added. "I’m not going to skip over it. I want to really be present, as I meet this … new person in our family."

Chelsea Clinton and her husband, investment banker Marc Mezvinsky, are expecting their first child this fall. They married in 2010.

Hillary Clinton said she would decide later this year on whether she would seek to become the Democratic nominee for president in 2016.

Her PBS interview with Rose will air in two parts, on Thursday and Friday. Clinton recently published her memoir, "Hard Choices."

Clinton said that the presidency "has only gotten harder," based on what she has seen from her years as first lady and from working for the Obama administration.

"The job has gotten even bigger and more difficult," she told Rose. "I understand how the job is done, and I understand what has to be prioritized.

"I just have to decide or not that’s what I want to do at this point in my life. … It’s a very personal choice."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-grandmother-president/2014/07/17/id/583403#ixzz37qJlgyrR

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I didn't see anything in that article which says becoming a grandchild could halt her 2016 bid.


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I didn't see anything in that article which says becoming a grandchild could halt her 2016 bid.



Could we potentially be looking at a Cruz vs. Warren matchup?

That would make for a very interesting contrast.

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Could we potentially be looking at a Cruz vs. Warren matchup?

That would make for a very interesting contrast.

would love to see that.  warren lied about being an indian, so we should make fun of her, but she WILL bring financial responsibility that hilary (and more RINOs) will NOT.

Cruz is a better choice, since he will bring greater financial responsibility AND he will NOT support amnesty - something that many libs and RINOs will support.   Warren, like many is a piece of shit liberal on amnesty/Dream act.

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Elizabeth Warren Greeted By Calls To Run For President At Progressive Gathering
Posted: 07/18/2014

DETROIT -- Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) faced an enthusiastic crowd of supporters Friday when she took the stage at Netroots Nation, with fans toting "Elizabeth Warren for President" hats and signs and chanting "Run, Liz, Run!"

It was her first major speech since Tuesday's launch of a group called Ready for Warren, which aims to convince her that there is grassroots support for her to run for president in 2016.

Warren's supporters used her speech to progressive activists Friday as their launching pad, handing out hats, signs and stickers to attendees. When Warren appeared on stage, large banners urging her to run were unfurled, and members of the crowd chanted for her to run a few times during her speech.

Warren, however, does not support this effort, as her spokeswoman told The Huffington Post this week. And she didn't acknowledge the calls to run for president Friday either, simply urging people to sit down whenever they jumped up and started applauding.

Warren focused her message on her familiar theme of economic populism, getting loud applause when she said, "The game is rigged. And the rich and the powerful have lobbyists and lawyers and plenty of friends in Congress. Everybody else, not so much. So the way I see this is we can whine about it, we can whimper about it or we can fight back. I'm fighting back!"

Warren ran through a list of progressive policy positions, asserting that "we believe" in tougher rules for Wall Street; science; net neutrality; raising the minimum wage; a livable wage for fast food workers; making sure students aren't burdened by crushing debt; protecting Social Security, Medicare and pensions; equal pay for equal work; equality; immigration reform and the fact that corporations are not people.

But the Ready for Warren supporters had company at the event Friday morning. Dotting the tables were blue Ready for Hillary cups that were being given out at the coffee station outside the room for the speech.

Ready for Hillary, which supports a bid for president by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, is a co-sponsor of Netroots Nation and contributed $10,000 to the gathering in May.

Clinton did not attend the event, but her supporters made sure they were visible, bringing their prominent Ready for Hillary bus, participating in sessions at the conference and signing up to co-host one of its major parties Friday night.

Vice President Joe Biden, who has also been mentioned as a potential candidate in 2016, made his first Netroots Nation appearance on Thursday. Biden received an enthusiastic welcome, but there were no chants for him to run for president, and he faced heckling from a handful of immigration activists.

While in Detroit, Warren is also campaigning with Rep. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) Friday afternoon to promote his bid for U.S. Senate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/elizabeth-warren-netroots-nation_n_5599178.html

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Clinton polling well in key presidential battleground
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(CNN) – Hillary Clinton is the clear 2016 frontrunner in the nation's largest presidential battleground state, according to a new poll.

A Quinnipiac University survey of Florida voters indicates the former secretary of state, who's seriously considering a second bid for the White House, with leads from seven to 21 percentage points over potential GOP presidential candidates in possible 2016 showdowns.


"Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may be taking some criticism recently in the news media and among some liberal Democratic precincts, but nothing has changed among average voters in Florida where she remains queen of the political prom," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University poll.

According to the survey, which was released Thursday morning, Clinton also has an overwhelming lead in the hunt for the Democratic nomination, with former two-term Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and the state's junior U.S. senator, Marco Rubio, leading the pack of potential GOP contenders.

Two-thirds of Sunshine State Democratic primary voters questioned in the survey say they'd back Clinton for their party's nomination, followed by Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts each at eight percent. Biden is mulling another presidential bid while Warren has said numerous times that she's not running in 2016. Other potential candidates registered at one percent or less.

Twenty-one percent of Republicans say they'd back Bush in the primary, followed by Rubio at 18%. Bush was at 27% and Rubio at 11% among Florida Republicans in Quinnipiac's May poll.

Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is at 10% in the new poll, with Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky standing at 8%, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee – who ran for the 2008 nomination – at 7%, and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 6%. None of the other possible contenders top 5%.

In hypothetical 2016 general election matchups, Sunshine State voters back Clinton over Bush 49%-42%. The poll indicates Clinton leads Ryan by 13 points, Rubio by 14 points, Paul by 16 points and Christie by 21 points.

A Quinnipiac poll in Colorado released Wednesday in Colorado, another swing state, indicated much closer 2016 general election showdowns between Clinton and potential GOP candidates.

As for the current occupant in the White House, the survey indicates President Barack Obama has a 44%-52% approval/disapproval rating among Florida votes, compared to 46%-50% in May.

The Quinnipiac University poll was conducted July 17-21, with 1,251 registered voters in Florida questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/24/clinton-polling-well-in-key-presidential-battleground/

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Waiting with open wallets: Media mogul says he'll spend 'as much as needed' for Clinton 2016
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Washington (CNN) - Haim Saban, a multibillionaire media mogul, said Monday he is prepared to spend "as much as needed" to get Hillary Clinton into the White House in 2016.

While it is no secret that Saban, the head of Univision and a prodigious Democratic money man, is excited about the prospect of Hillary Clinton running for president in 2016, these recent comments to Bloomberg up the ante of his support.

"I think she would be great for the country and great for the world, so on issues that I care about she is pristine plus, and I think she is ready plus plus and I hope that she makes the right decision," Saban said.

Saban was a sizable Clinton supporter in 2008, spending and raising over $100,000 for the former senator. With the rise of super PACs, however, the media mogul will be able to do much more to help Clinton.

Supreme Court decisions in the last six years have allowed private citizens to exert more influence in politics by giving money to outside organizations that in turn work to get a certain candidate elected. And with a handful of super PACs already working to urge Clinton to run for president, Saban has a number of avenues for his large fortune.

Saban said earlier this year that a Clinton presidency would be a "dream," and told an Israeli newspaper in December 2013 that he will "pitch in with full might" to get Clinton elected in 2016.

In addition to his political contributions to Clinton, Saban has donated between $10 and $25 million to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

The irony in Saban's claim is that last week Clinton denounced outside money in politics, stating that she would consider backing a constitutional amendment to limit outside influences.

"I would consider supporting an amendment among these lines," Clinton said responding to a question during a Facebook question-and-answer session. "That would prevent the abuse of our political system by excessive amounts of money if there is no other way to deal with the Citizen's (sic) United decision."

Clinton is widely considered the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016 and has admitted in the last few months that she is seriously considering a bid.

"Obviously she has a life to lead and she is going to be a grandmother soon, so all of that will obviously be taken by her into consideration," Saban said about the prospect the Clinton runs.

Saban, who was born in Egypt and raised in Israel, is worth an estimated $3.5 billion and now works as the executive chairman of the company that owns Univision, the massively popular Spanish-language broadcaster.

Republicans and some nonpartisan observers have questioned whether someone so closely tied with a major American broadcaster should be so chummy with a prospective presidential candidate.

Univision is a major partner in a key Clinton foundation program, Too Small to Fail, which encourages parents to talk with their kids at a young age. Clinton’s partnership with Univision is focused on encouraging Hispanic families and caregivers to speak in either Spanish or English with their children as a way to develop language skills.

Earlier this year, the Republican National Committee called out the partnership as an avenue for "2016 propaganda," while Raul Reyes wrote a column in February that questioned whether the "Hillary-Univision deal cross(es) a line."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/28/waiting-with-open-wallets-media-mogul-says-hell-spend-as-much-as-needed-for-clinton-2016/

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2014, 11:54:29 AM »
Campaign prep? Hillary Clinton reportedly signs 2-year lease for Manhattan office
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WASHINGTON –  Hillary Clinton reportedly has signed a two-year lease in a high-rise commercial building in midtown Manhattan, fueling growing rumors of a 2016 presidential run.

Citing anonymous sources, HollywoodLife.com reported Tuesday that Clinton signed the lease on a property which will eventually be used as her campaign headquarters. However, Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill, told MSNBC the property is the new site for her personal office, not a campaign headquarters.

Clinton, who currently has a 12-member staff, moved into the new digs last week. The office space will comfortably fit 25 people, the entertainment site claims. 

The leased property reportedly includes 14 workstations, one large conference room and features like floor-to-ceiling glass doors and windows with views of Times Square.

Clinton ran her last presidential campaign from an office near Washington, D.C.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/06/hillary-clinton-signs-2-year-lease-for-manhattan-office-space/?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2014, 01:14:21 PM »
John Sununu: Hillary Testing Media but Won't Run in 2016
Wednesday, 13 Aug 2014
By Bill Hoffmann

Hillary Clinton's slap at the foreign policy of President Barack Obama is a bid to test whether the liberal media will support her in the 2016 presidential race, says John Sununu, former chief of staff to President George W. Bush.

"What she's trying to do is test the support she would get from the media by . . . distancing herself . . . re-creating a history for herself,'' Sununu said Wednesday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

"She'd like to see how the liberal media react to that, and if she can get away with it she will continue to use the gullibility of the liberal media as a way of rewriting her own history.

"So, the real issue is not so much that she's trying it, but the real issue is how much does the liberal media fall for it?''

In recent days, the former secretary of state has taken aim at what some consider the Obama administration's softball approach to foreign policy.

In an interview with The Atlantic, Clinton suggested Obama's failure to back "moderate" rebels in Syria led to the violence by Islamic extremists now being seen in Syria and Iraq.

Sununu, former governor of New Hampshire, agreed there are many issues for Clinton to flee from her time in the Obama administration.

"It's underestimating Putin, it's underestimating the difficulties in Iraq, it's underestimating Afghanistan, it's underestimating the fact that it's still a tough world that you can't operate with utopian principles in a world where there are real bad people,'' he said.

"The entire administration, including everybody who served in it, is guilty of having put America and the world in this very unstable, very dangerous situation we're finding right now.''

Sununu said he thinks the Obama presidency is "unraveling.''

"The self-delusion of this president is becoming more and more apparent. You know, he was proud of withdrawing the American troops [from Iraq] and now he's denying he did it,'' Sununu said.

"Unfortunately, he didn't understand when he did that withdrawal how detrimental that would be to world stability.''

Sununu said he is betting against Clinton's running.

"The difficulties she's having are piling up, and I suspect that after the November elections she and former President [Bill] Clinton and the family will gather to make a decision,'' he said.

"They understand politics. They'll put the things that they think are positive on one side of the ledger and the things that they don't think are so good on the other side.

"If they make an honest assessment, she'll decide that with a combination of all kinds of things, including age and the fact they know how tough it is to run for president and what they'll face in terms of the intensity of the opposition, it's more likely she does not run.''

Sununu said he was surprised that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who heads the Republican Governor's Association, refused to back Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino in his challenge to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Christie dubbed Astorino's bid a "lost cause.''

"I'd like to give him enough credit thinking it was a mistake to have said it. I'd like to give him enough credit to feel that perhaps he now regrets he said it, but it's awfully tough to take back once you said it," Sununu said.

"It was a mistake, we all make mistakes, and maybe he can figure out a way to constructively deal with it by encouraging a lot of folks in New York to give some support.''

But Sununu does not agree with some Republicans that Christie should resign for snubbing a GOP candidate.

"Look, we're in the midst of a campaign, we're three months away from the election. Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot after having put the foot to our forehead.''

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/John-Sununu-foreign-policy-media/2014/08/13/id/588576/#ixzz3AIxtz3xp

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2014, 11:42:04 AM »
Warren plans Israel trip after midterm elections
By Matt Viser  | GLOBE STAFF   AUGUST 13, 2014

WASHINGTON – With Hillary Clinton seeming to express a more hawkish view of world affairs than President Obama and publicly questioning his decisions on Syria, liberals may be wondering what an Elizabeth Warren alternative would look like.

The answer? It’s a big question mark.

More than a year and a half into her Senate term, the Massachusetts senator is one of just four current US senators who have not taken an official overseas trip.

Warren rarely talks about foreign policy and has built her political resume almost exclusively on domestic issues, specifically concerns for the financial well-being of the American middle class.

A Warren aide said the freshman senator is planning to join a congressional trip to Israel, but given her aggressive schedule campaigning on behalf of Senate Democrats it likely will come after the midterm elections in November.

That trip could raise speculation that Warren is trying to add to her foreign policy portfolio ahead of a potential presidential run, but it also could be seen as her playing catch up to other freshman senators who have already traveled abroad.

“Senator Warren has been hard at work in Massachusetts and Washington, DC and has not traveled on an official [congressional delegation trip] yet,” Warren spokeswoman Lacey Rose said in a statement.


Warren declined several requests for an interview. Her office also would not discuss her lack of foreign travel, disclose whom she consults for foreign-policy advice, or say whether Warren has ever traveled abroad in a private, unofficial capacity.

Many of Warren’s supporters want her to run for president in 2016, but Warren has repeatedly said she has no plans to run. If she did make a bid, her lack of foreign policy experience would likely present a problem -- although perhaps not an insurmountable one. As Noam Scheiber pointed out in the New Republic, former Vermont Governor Howard Dean stoked liberal enthusiasm in the 2004 Democratic primaries with his opposition to the Iraq War.

Clinton’s views on foreign policy could create an opening on the left. The former secretary of state, senator, and first lady has taken a much more robust view of American intervention. In an interview with the Atlantic last week, Clinton characterized Obama’s philosophy of “not doing stupid stuff” as inadequate. She also criticized Obama’s approach in Syria and said his unwillingness to take a more aggressive approach helped lay the groundwork for the current unrest sweeping throughout the region.

“The failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled,” Clinton said.

Clinton called Obama to clarify her remarks and the two are scheduled to see each other Wednesday night at an event on Martha’s Vineyard, where a Clinton spokesman said she looked forward to “hugging it out” with the president.

In general, Warren seems anti-interventionist and takes a skeptical eye to any US military action. In February, during her only speech on foreign policy in the year and a half since she took office, she warned of using military might without considering the implications.

“When military action is on the table, do we fully and honestly debate the risk that while our actions would wipe out existing terrorists or other threats, they also might produce new ones?” Warren said in a speech at Georgetown University.

She also said the military engagement following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks illustrated the downsides of harming civilians and risking inciting insurgents.

“The failure to make civilian casualties a full and robust part of our national conversation over the use of force is dangerous – dangerous because of the impression that it gives the world about our country and dangerous because of how it affects the decisions that we make as a country,” Warren said.

Last week, responding to the latest conflict in Iraq, she said she supported Obama’s decision to take limited action and provide humanitarian relief. But she also expressed deep reservations.

“I remain concerned about possible unintended consequences of intervention,” she said. “We must not get bogged down in another war in the Middle East.”

Earlier, when asked last year to respond to President Obama’s decision to begin arming the Syrian rebels, Warren used almost identical language.

“I am deeply concerned that our aid might have unintended consequences,” she said in a carefully worded statement in June 2013. “We need clear goals and a plan to achieve them or else the United States could get bogged down in another war in the Middle East.”

Warren has often avoided foreign policy issues, sometimes literally. When she was questioned in a hotel lobby last month by the Capitol City Project, a conservative-leaning news website, about her views on the war between Hamas and Israel, she made a beeline down a hallway.

In her recent book, “A Fighting Chance,” Warren doesn’t mention Israel or China. She mentions the wars Afghanistan and Iraq, but only to discuss young troops being lured into financial scams.

A Globe review of official travel records shows that, aside from Warren, the three current senators who have not undertaken official travel -- -- either on a congressional trip or one paid for by an outside group -- are Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat who was elected in October 2013; John Walsh, a Montana Democrat who was appointed in February and recently dropped out of his race following charges of plagiarism; and Brian Schatz, a Hawaii Democrat who was appointed to his seat in December 2012 and is now running to keep the seat.

The committees that Warren sits on are mostly focused on domestic policy: Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs; Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions; and a special committee on aging. But other members of those committees have been traveling. There have been at least nine committee trips to 22 countries.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2014/08/13/elizabeth-warren-has-skimpy-resume-foreign-policy-but-plans-israel-trip-after-mid-terms/6gkD7HBwuQlHuUrgeMDB0I/story.html

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Re: Presidential Candidates 2016: 10 Democrats Who Might Be the Next Nominee
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2014, 11:50:22 AM »
As interesting as the upcoming Republican Primaries will be, a match-up of Warren vs. Clinton on the debate stage will completely eclipse that.

Can't wait for that one.